Aperture looses metadata

I just noticed that after running an image through dnoise, Aperture looses almost all the metadata. Should this be happening? Is there a way to stop it?

Hi Tony. DNoise is a plug-in, no? Aperture creates copies of images (file format is set in Prefs), and sends them to the plug-in, which then sends them back after changing the file. In essence the plug-in is a completely different application than Aperture. Aperture has many metadata which are not supported by other applications, and some applications don't support the full range of standard image metadata.
One work-around is to copy all the metadata of the original and paste it into the image after it is returned from DNoise. There are no complete solutions for a workflow based on Aperture which includes plug-ins, afaik.

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I'm having a problem with Aperture loosing track of referenced masters. I have more than 10,000 images in Aperture most of them are stored as referenced masters. I have several projects where "some" of the files have (according to Aperture) gone missing. The images were imported into Aperture at the same time, have always been in their current location (in the same directory), and have not been treated any differently than each other. Looking at the files in the grid view doesn't show any differences in the master file location. Does anyone have any idea how Aperture gets confused?
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Alexander Mcleod wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to reply...
re: "Basically to edit an image, stored in iPhoto, in Aperture you would have to export the image from iPhoto import into Aperture modify it export it out of Aperture and import it back into iPhoto."
My point is that in my case the images are NOT *stored* IN iPhoto...
Yes I understand, your iPhoto library is setup using referenced masters, the termed used when the master file is stored outside of the programs database. And you could setup Aperture in the same way and they would both be pointing to the same master file, external to both programs databases.
But here's here's the kicker: The master file *is never modified* by either program. I believe iPhoto makes a copy of the master when you apply adjustments (someone with a greater understanding of iPhoto can correct me here) how it does it isn't important what is important is that he master isn't modified; Aperture also leaves the master alone. It records the adjustments you make as a stream on instructions and applies those to the master when you want to create an adjusted image. What you see (normally) in Aperture's views are previews of the adjusted image. So changes you make in Aperture won't be seen in iPhoto because iPhoto is looking at the original master file, not Aperture's adjusted version.
Now you can share the preview from Aperture with iPhoto, but at this point you basically have the adjusted image in two places.
And in reference to the other response that suggests that iPhoto and Aperture use different databases, I'd completely expect that to be the case. What I'm wondering about is can Aperture initialize its database from iPhoto's database; i.e., create its equivalent to iPhoto's "library" file (where all the iPhoto metadata is stored) from iPhoto's AND like iPhoto reference the original files in their original location.
Yes Aperture can initialize a database of its own based on the iPhoto library and that library can be setup to use referenced masters, see above.
I don't see why I'd need to 'export' any image from iPhoto (unless of course I'd "edited" it in iPhoto - in which case the *modified* file IS I think stored IN iPhoto's library) but that's my point... I don't WANT to edit the files with iPhoto... I want to edit the files with Aperture.
You're right you won't need to export from iPhoto if you setup both with referenced masters. But like I said above to get back to iPhoto you will have to export from Aperture unless you can live with using the previews in iPhoto. But again you will basically have two identical library structures, at least at start, as time goes on they will diverge.
I hope this better clarifies what I'm trying to explain.
It does, I hope my reply also helps explain the difficulties with this setup and why it's not as cut and dry as it first appears.
I have read *many* other posts that point out what you're pointing out but they all seem to make assumptions about wanting to modify files in Aperture which were previously *modified* in iPhoto. The unmodified "original" photos (assuming both iPhoto and Aperture have the ability that iPhoto has to reference the original files from a location *external* to iPhoto) are then by definition are already shared between iPhoto and Aperture so there's no need to 'export' from one to the other, no?
As I've said whats shared is the original unmodified master image. Once either program modifies it it is no longer shared.

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Hi Mike. I don't know the answer to your larger question (though you might try with a few images and see what you get). I do know that what you propose here:
Mike Delaney wrote:
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works, and works well. I have done this a few times (for ratings as well as for color labels and for other groupings). In practice, it goes quickly. Every "tag" of information that you can translate to a keyword will be preserved, and within the limits of the "moving to" software can be re-assigned.
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Hi Dick. Can't say from the information you've provided. This line, though, gives me fibrillations:
DickBasart wrote:
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midnightsun wrote:
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[Aperture metadata|http://photo.rwboyer.com/2008/08/aperture-and-metadata-display>
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