Aperture on iMac

Which is the best card for the iMac 3,06 Ghz and Aperture ?
Nvidia 88800 or ATI 2600 ?
It seems the ATI benchmark is superior.

The 3.06 model of the iMac only comes w/ the 8800 card. Aperture uses the graphics card for a lot of its processing. This model iMac is working very well for me.
Mark

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Aperture with iMac 24"

Hi! I'm new in this discussions.
I would like to know what do you think with this combination:
Apple iMac 24" 3.0.6GHZ with 4GB RAM running Aperture.
I'm not a really professional photographer but I shot 15/20.000 photos by year.
Now I'm using an iMac 2.16GHZ C2D + 3GB RAM 20" and there are a slow reaction with a project with 50/100photos. I know that this is not a great machine to run Aperture but...
I'm looking for a new Apple iMac 24" 3.0.6GHZ with 4GB RAM.
Please tell me some about your experience.
At home I have a Powermac G4 733. So many years ago I bought PRO mac but now there's no a lot of money...
Thanks to all
Koferc
p.s.
sorry about my english

I went from an old (white) iMac with 2GB RAM to a 2.8Ghz 24" iMac with 4GB RAM. Aperture renders the RAW images in about twice the speed. The adjustments are still clunky especially when the image is cropped or zoomed but this seems to be an issue for many people even those with Mac Pro's.

Aperture for imac g5?

I have a imac g5. it came with a GeForce FX 5200 installed. This card can not be used with Aperture. Can i get a upgraded card installed for this computer? If so does it have to be an apple install?
thanks

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I am bewildered that apple would release a product
that can not be used on so many of it's machines.
My guess is that Apple made the decision to look forward with Aperture, and designed the app from the ground up to optimize for the future states of the underlying OS and Apple hardware. A temporary inconvenience for those of us with legacy hardware - and a serious hit on initial sales - but IMO that approach will pay dividends when we are all on boxes with fast GPUs accessing substantial amounts of RAM.
I have used Cumulus, Portfolio, iView, PS File Browser, Adobe Bridge, etc. All suffer major limitations, many of which do seem to be throughput-power related. Aperture seems to address many of those limitations, and if Aperture succeeds in the long run at being what it claims to be, I for one will happily tolerate the fact that my current desktop tower is not adequate.
Computers used for pro graphics always have needed routine replacement, and recent improvements in DSLR capability (my Nikon D2x can create twenty large RAW + JPEG image files in 4 seconds, all of which must be managed) has exacerbated that issue. Aperture is just exemplary of the trend.
Note that boxes limited to 2-2.5 GB RAM (or even those limited to 4 GB RAM), including all iMacs, are poor choices for future use on graphics apps anyway. Even though such boxes work adequately at the moment, the graphics throughput of future OS versions and future graphics apps (e.g. Photoshop already can utilize 4 GB RAM) will very much be most cost effective using fast GPUs and substantial RAM; certainly much more than 2 GB. IMO.

Aperture with iMac i7 3.4 AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5

I am looking to upgrade to the new iMac i7 3.4 (spring 2011).
Currently I am running Aperture 3 via a MacBook Pro 2.66 (NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512 Ram) along with 8GB DDR3 Ram.
Just wondering if anyone has purchased the new 27" iMac i7 3.4 with AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5 and 16GB DDR3 of Ram?
If so do you see the performance of Aperture 3 running better?
I know that Aperture runs better with more GPU, so I would assume the performance would be better?
Thanks,
Stu

That box will rock Aperture if you order it with an SSD. IMO using hard drives for boot drives is obsolete.
In my case Aperture (3.1.2) on the 2011 17" MBP (OS 10.6.7, 8 GB RAM, HD 6750M; a weaker box than the iMac you suggest) with Apple's SSD imports 3 GB of RAW+JPEG images in much less than a minute and has those images fully processed in about 5 minutes. IMO hella fast. And edits (with both the Aperture Library and referenced Masters on the SSD) are essentially instant.
Only problems with the better Thunderbolt iMacs are:
• Glossy-only display that not everyone can tolerate.
• Hard drives are only upgradable by Apple, a sucky new trick in Apple's bag.
But as far as Aperture performance goes all the top end Thunderbolt boxes will be spectacular. I cannot say enough good things about Aperture performance on SSD setups; IMO no Aperture user should buy a box without SSD.
HTH
-Allen

Aperture with iMac G5

I use a non-iSight 2 gHz iMac G5 (non-Intel) with 2 gB of RAM. It has the ATI (0x1002) display card and Aperture Compatibilty Checker says it's OK for Aperture.
Most of the ads Apple runs for Aperture seem to show big Cinema Displays, which means they are running on a big Mac box, I suppose.
Has any one had experience of running Aperture on an iMac like mine and, if so, could you please comment on speed? I'm concerned that the application may be too slow on my single processor iMac and don't want to commit without some empirical feedback on the speed issue.
I will be using mostly RAW files from a Canon EOS 5D full frame digital SLR, some 12mB in size or 72mB when converted to 16 bit PSD files using ACR.
Thank you.

Thanks all for those very helpful answers.
Let me try a quantitative question.
Here is how long it takes for three different file
sizes to load on my iMac G5 in PS CS2, with 1.3gB of
the toal of 2gB memory dedicated to PS:
5 mB JPG - 2 seconds
50 mB TIF - 7 seconds
250 mB TIF - 10 seconds
What would the comparable times for Aperture be,
appoximately?
It's hard to compare directly like that for two reasons - one, the system factors for performance are different and two, the what you are doing with images internally is very different.
Consider your load time of a 50MB TIFF. What to compare in Aperture? I'll use a 63MB 16-bit TIFF on my computer (specs below) as an example:
* Import itself takes 5 seconds
* Switching to the image in Aperture to work with takes two or three seconds, unless you've already been working with it in Aperture you have loaded - then it's zero seconds.
* Exporting a changed version of the TIFF takes about twelve seconds.
For Photoshop, you are always loading a set of pixels, working with them, and saving them each time.
In Aperture since you are just working with instructions to alter the image and do not really have pixels until you export, things are much faster while you are working - every time you want to evaluate or make small changes to the image it's very quick as you have only the three second load time switching to the image (which goes to zero if you are switching between that and a few other images in Aperture, only the first load takes that long).
Furthermore in Photoshop you are working with different bit depths, working on 8-bit images is faster than using 16-bit images. In Aperture even if you import an 8-bit image it's being worked on as a 16-bit image internally in terms of adjustments, but this costs you nothing in terms of space since your original file is always used as a base. You did not say what bit depth your images are which I think would make a difference for Photoshop.
I noted before another difficultly being system factors in performance. The times I am seeing are a combiantion of the processor speed and video card capabilities - not just the processor alone. So in the example you gave I literally have no way of giving you truly comparible numbers because you did not say what video card you have. I have no way to tell you if Aperture performance would be better or worse for you.

Big Aperture Library - iMac with SSD HDD - how to?

Just ordered the new 27 inch i7 iMac with SSD plus 2TB HDD , and want to plan the move from my old MBP.
I currently have a managed Aperture Library which is about 400GBs (on an external drive). Clearly this will not fit on a 256GB SSD, but I'd like to get some speed benefit from the SSD.
So I'm thinking I'll change to a referenced library, placing the masters on the 2TB drive and the aplibrary on the SSD.
To get there, I plan to to go through the following steps, and my questions are, do you think this is a good approach? Is there a better way? Can you see any risks?
Make a backup copy of the aplibrary on my old Mac to an external drive
Open it on the iMac
Relocate Masters from this aplibrary to the 2TB drive
Close down Aperture.
Copy the (now smaller) aplibrary from the external drive to the SSD
Open it there.
I tried these steps between external hard drives with a small (less than 5GB) aplibrary to test the concept and when I opened the copy of the (now smaller) aplibrary, all worked fine. The copy of the aplibrary knew where the masters were.
Background:-
My thinking is that the performance should be quite good since the library will be quite small (I'm guessing about 30GBs) and accesses to this library will be to quite small items (average in my test is 0.2 MB per item), whereas the images are quite large (up to 25 MB per image). Hard disks are better at moving big items and SSD benefits tend to be higher for reads and writes to small items, since there is no seek time or rotation time. Of course the system and applications will be on the SSD as well.
PS I may even try this approach on my MBP, putting the aplibrary on the internal drive and the images still external.

Interesting!
Thanks, Ernie.
I am expecting that Aperture will launch faster since the app will be on SSD, but I also expect that due to accesses to the aplibrary, Aperture will be much faster. For example, the aplibrary will contain the previews, thumbnails, metadata and adjustments. I don't really expect that Aperture will transfer images being edited to SSD, rather that it would simply read them into RAM directly, bypassing the SSD.
What I definitely WILL do is to try to observe the performance differences with the library on SSD vs HDD.
I can see this turning into a science experiment for me!
PS, I will have 12 GBs of RAM, the original 4 plus 8 more
Message was edited by: John Kitchen - added postscript

What is the best way to back up aperture on imac and then take the library on the road for my mcp?

I have just aquired a lacie triple interface ext drive 1tb, to vault aperture and then take on the road for mcp to access the aperture iamges, looking at some of this forum I dont think this is as easy as i thought so i thought I'd better get some help!
I have not activated the ext hard drive yet just in case, my imac is backed up with time machine presently.

Hi Dave
I use a MBP and a Mac Mini when on the road
It has always been my practice not to use the system drive for my photographic data where ever possible always using external drives eSATA and FW for the MBP and using USB drives for Vaults and Clones
I am working with a growing Libary at the moment 720GB + 500 GB of referenced files on a second HDD
I will be scooting down the A30 with a couple of HDDs and my MBP on my way home and whilst there I will be using the my MBP to add new images to my aperture Libary and Referenced Drive and work on some of my existing files
For the last four years I have used a Ruggedised 500GB FW/USB drive to store copies of my CF cards when on a shoot you need the MBP to transfer from CF to HDD but once on the HD any future transfer is quick.
Only reusing it when I have the contents in at least two external HDD's at different locations
I have a Mac Pro and Wiebetech 4bay eSATA external at my studio (It takes bare drives)
Two years ago I did move to using an eSATA EspressCard|34 with my MBP (which only has a 200GB internal) which has ineffect given me a 2TB external running as if it's an internal drive (Ruggedised eSATA) as my Aperture Library and PS scratch file drive.
And 2TB USB drives as Vault backup
I have never been a Time Machine fan from the early days when there were problems when running Aperture, I'm sure it's improved but I have my own work flow routine
I use SuperDuper form Shirt Pocket
I recently purchased a couple of 2TB WD Green 2TB SATA 6Gbps 64MB Cache Power Saving Internal Hard Drives
for £60 each and two empty Lacie cases for £18 each from Amazon so storage has never been cheaper I normally use bare drives but the cases are better when I am away from base and its easy to remove them
Hope this helps
Phil G
PS. If you're down Penwith over the next month look me up and I show you the set up

Aperture and iMac

Has anyone run Aperture on a new intel imac with 2G ram. Wondering if the program runs adequately on this machine. I am looking at the 17" model. thanks

I have a pretty much stock iMac G5 iSight which has I believe a 600XT/128mb graphic card.
This was of course previously excluded by Apple from the minimum specifications of Aperture, but mysteriously with v1.1.2(?) the 600Pro & 600XT cards have appeared (as has PCI-Express for Final Cut Express HD; which is a different story with the same outcome).
However, whilst the Aperture (and FCE/HD) minisites show these extended specifications, the tech-spec pages at AppleStore do not reflect this, leaving me to worry.
Given that I have a chunk of RAM (and space for more) and given that there may be hacks to overcome the 600/PCI-Express bus issues in the short term would anyone like to comment on my likely experience with Aperture, before I start investing more time and effort on 'Lightroom (which I am beginning to like..;-))
iMac/G5/iSight Mac OS X (10.4.7) 1.5gbRAM

Aperture with iMac G5-useable?

Hey there.
This might just be one-of -those questions that's way too subjective to be answered, but here it goes.
I shoot Raw with cr2 files (around 7mb) and a trying to set up a workflow that will enable me to (now with 1.5) be able to reference created Jpegs in iPhoto and whatever other iLife apps. This is where useability comes into it with the X600XT graphics card (min req). Being so Gpu intense and probably only importing 50 Raws/week I wonder if (after previews are constructed) a G5 will slow down to a crawl with basic editing adjustments and maybe with PSE3 running in the foreground. This is basically what I thought of doing:
1- Use Capture1 as the converter >jpeg or tiff (ltd adj in PSE for 16bit)> import to PSE3(if needed) >save jpegs to iPhoto>ditch raws (for space) and save externally. This scenario will be speedy with my hardware but may introduce keywording problems, exporting and importing.
2- Import to Aperture >use PSE as external editor if required >selected Jpegs can be viewed within iPhot
Why make use of iPhoto as well? Some thing cannot be done with Aperture and my wife likes it's uncomplicated use.
So one scenarion will be great with my hardware but everything is seperated and the other is integrated with iLife but how slow will it run?
As yet I haven't bought Aperture, nor Capture1 LE. Cost is not so relevant between the two, well it will be US115 as I can get a student discount.
Maybe will post this in the G5 forum as well as I didn't know where this question really belonged.
Cheers all

I've got the same computer with the max RAM and the 250GB disk. I shoot a canon 350d in RAW. All of the standard image adjustments run well - contrast, color balance, highlight/shadow. Even the more sophisticated ones like the noise reduction and sharpening run well. The ones that don't run well include the spot and patch feature - If you want to fix 20 spots on an image don't use Aperture - send a version to your external editor and fix them there. The straighten tool can be slow if you use the mouse to control it - but if you use the sliders you can control it. My library is over 5000 images and it contains RAW from the canon, JPGs from my P&S and a lot of TIFF files from my slide scanner (up to 60MB). I don't have any trouble with the preview generation process although I told the program to make the previews no larger than 1900 by 1600 px. I use PSCS2 as the external editor and running it and Aperture is not an issue for me. Lastly I also use iPhoto - and the other family members use it also rather than Aperture.

Aperture and original iMac G5

I have an original iMac G5 (1.8GHz) from 2004. I just download the Aperture hardware test app from Apple and was really disappointed that it reported that I cannot use this application.
Apparently my graphics card does not meet the minimum requirements.
My iMac is not that old and I can run Motion, DVD Studio Pro, Soundtrack Pro and Final Cut Express quite happily. I imagine these applications would be faster on a Quad G5 but that is a compromise I am prepared to take.
I appreciate that this application is taking advantage of new hardware to maximise performance but I wish I could use Aperture. I guess that is $499 of lost revenue to Apple.
If anyone from Apple is reading this: please can you find a way for this application to run on my iMac G5 (even if it is a bit slower, or has a few less features) - e.g. Aperture Express.
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1GB RAM

I too was quite upset by the incompatibility of Aperture to my Dual G5 1.8 GHz -- I thought I had a machine that would last at least 4 years. Alas, I didn't give up too easily. I researched what would be an appropriate graphics card to install to get this program running properly and came up with the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. Cool. Uh... not cool - this card has two spiffy DVI connectoers that don't work with my 20" Apple Display Cinema.
Groan... here we go again.
But wait! there's another work around. Buy an adapter for over a hundred dollars that the ADC can inconveniently be converted to a DVI monitor. The adapter is large but works fine in my situation, it adds another 5' of cable to the already long ADC cable, but no huge complaints here because the thing actually works. No power button on the front of the monitor anymore, and it takes a USB connection away from me that I have to work around, but it works!!
Now I am enjoying learning all this new stuff on a program whose capabilities I have triplicated with Phase One's Capture One Pro, and Photoshop's CS2. I am trying to find the ultimate RAW processor and they all, so far, have their unique selling features and idiosyncratic characteristics. Lot's of work to do!

Aperture and "AAE extensions" on images

Trying to import photos from iPhone 5S to Aperture on iMac running OS X (10.9.5) following phone upgrade to iOS 8.0.2. Images now have an 'AAE extension' which Aperture does not recognize. What to do?

Seems to have resolved. Imported a bunch last night that went in as JPG. I don't know what was up with the AAE nor where they came from.

Side by Side: Apple Aperture and Adobe Lightroom in S.F.

Below is info on a first ever (?) head to head comparison of Aperture vs Lightroom presented by Schorr & Hogarty. Should be a great meeting. If you are in Nor-Cal, check it out;
March 13 in S.F. http://www.asmpnorcal.org/events/event.html
Side by Side: Apple Aperture and Adobe Lightroom
Speakers:
Tom Hogarty, Product Manager for Lightroom, Adobe Systems
Joseph Schorr, Product Manager for Aperture, Apple Computer
This Tuesday join us and the designated gurus from Adobe and Apple
for a lively evening as we jump headlong into both Aperture and
Lightroom and discover the nuts and bolts of how these applications
work. You'll learn how these programs were designed from the
ground up for media photographers from the guys who helped design
them.
Dual 2.0 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8) 17" PowerBook 1.67
Dual 2.0 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8) 17" PowerBook 1.67

Wow, maybe this is what Schorr meant by "VERY soon" in this post in this thread on March 10th.
"Actually, Apple has annouced that Aperture support for the Pentax K10D, K100D, and K110D will be available very soon.
We will also be adding support for 11 other RAW formats from different cameras, including the Nikon D40, Leica Digilux 3, Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1, Samsung GX-1L, and seven of the Leaf Aptus and Valeo models.
Can't publish a release date, but this update will be coming VERY soon.
Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4209290&#4209290
If so, as a Pentax k10D owner, I will be happily cleaning Lightroom of my machine and moving ahead with Aperture!
iMac and PB G4 17" Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Sharing Aperture Library with Other Computers on the Home Network

Hello,
Forgive me if this question has been asked before, if it has, I missed it.
I have a mac on which I have Aperture and have taken the time to edit all of our family photos (cropping, color management, red eye reduction, etc.), so, after having done all of this, my wife, when showing her friends photos and such, would like to be able to have access to those photos on her mac laptop. But, I called Apple on this and their tech support guy made it sound like the only way to do this would be to create a web gallery for each set of pictures. And, I have to say, that solution seemed a bit extreme for sharing pictures within a home, not to mention the logistics for creating web galleries for tens of thousands of photos. So, the other option that occurred to me was that I could export all of the pictures into a directory and then have her iphoto import all of those pictures, however, there are two problems with that: 1) she is not up to date with new photos that have been added to Aperture and 2) the subfolder structure isn't preserved (i.e., it's just a huge mass of photos not a groups organized according to event).
So, my question is: does anyone know a better more practical way to do this? I would think it would be something that Apple would foresee and have a fix for but maybe not.
Thank you very much,
Ken

+"Single User License. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on one Apple-labeled desktop computer and one Apple-labeled laptop computer so long as both computers are owned and used by you."+
I own an iMac and I pretend to buy an Apple laptop as secondary computer for my home, just after vacations, as now I have some more important expenses that should deliver new set of photos into Aperture library.
iMac is in use by me, and my wife, and kid. I assume that it will be legal to install copy of Aperture on my new laptop. So I will end in same situation as you are today. In my opinion it will be legal to use Aperture on both computers, as both are in possession of my family, and at least in my country we are somehow single entity (we pay common taxes from our joint income etc.) - it depends on the marriage settlement, however we've choose it that way.
In this case I'll simple export library and import it on my secondary computer. I own my iMac, and I'll own my Macbook Pro. At the same moment my wife own them as well. I'm not sure about your situation, but it might work for you. The questions is, is it really legal?

Why does aperture keep asking for my activation key each time I open the programme?

I have aperture on iMac and macbook air - everytime I open aperture on air, it asks my name and key number. how do I get it to remember this? why does it do it?
Help please - I am tired of it.

Be sure to enter the serial number, when you are logged in from an account with Administrator priveleges - otherwise the serial number cannot be stored.
Aperture is installed for all users on your mac, so the serial number is written to the system library, not the user library, and this requires read/write access for administrators. Do you enter your serial number using an administrator account?
When did this start? Have you migrated your system from another mac? Then you still may have an older ProAppSystemID file or Aperture cannot write to the System Library.
To stop Aperture asking for the serial number, first check, if you still have an old file "ProAppSystemID" in your System Library.
Quit Aperture.
Go to your MacintoshHD and open the folder "Library", then "Application Support", then "ProApps".
Remove the File "ProAppsSystemID" to the Desktop, if it exist and restart Aperture.
Reenter your serial number, hopefully for the last time.
Sometimes Aperture writes this file to a temporary directory, when it cannot write to the Library. If the above does not work, look at the temporary directory /tmp
Use the Finder's "Go" menu
Go > Got to folder and enter /tmp into the textfield. If you see the file there, move it to its proper location.
Aperture must be running, and you will have to wait a few minutes to be seeing the file appearin the /tmp directory.
In this case you may want to repair the permissions on your system drive; you can do this using the "First Aid" tools in "Disk Utility" (located in Applications > Utilities)
Regards
Léonie

Afbeeldingen verdwenen uit Album van Aperture

Werkend in Aperture in een album verdwijnen na bewerking van een afbeelding in een keer alle opnames uit het album, terwijl er maar 1 geselecteerd was voor bewerking. Aperture afgesloten, imac afgesloten. Opgestart album nog leeg. Project wel aanwezig en in Recent de afbeeldingen wel teruggevonden in goede volgorde. Album nog steeds leeg.

That's it, "Places" will set a filter, when you click the little arrow at a pin.
Trying Google translate:
"Places" zal een filter instellen, wanneer u op het kleine pijltje op een pin.

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