Aperture or Elements

I am thinking of getting Aperture 3 and I have Photoshop Elements 6. Do they have a lot in common ?
Should I stick with what I have or spend the bucks for Elements. I also have IPhoto and IMovie 09.

Allen is right. They are intended for completely different purposes.
If what you want to do is shoot photos which largely just remain as photos, but you'd like to tweak & adjust them and you need to manage your photos, then Aperture is what you want. It's more powerful at doing the common workflow adjustments than a photo-editing tool. It's especially powerful at dealing with RAW images (more than JPEGs)
If what you want to do is radically alter your photos, or create composite artwork based on taking bits and pieces from various other images, doing special effects, etc. and you don't need photo management (either because you're using something else or because you don't plan on having so many photos that it's a problem) then Elements is designed for this.
BTW, Aperture will work with Photoshop. You can define Photoshop (or Elements) as an 'External editor'). After invoking the external editor, any change you 'save' is returned back to the Aperture library.
Aperture adjustments are 'non-destructive' (meaning you can always undo any adjustment and the original image is treated as a digital negative which is never altered.) Photoshop is 'destructive' (it will let you over-write your original image and if you don't want that to happen then the effort to manage and prevent it is entirely left to you.) When Aperture uses Photoshop as an 'external editor' it actually creates a copy of your image and sends the copy for editing (preserving the original). If you want it'll automatically put the copy into a 'stack' with the original so that you can maintain the association of the pre & post edited versions of the image.
The "trend" in Aperture has been to take those types of things that photographers regularly want to do and build them in -- reducing the reliance on external editors. With each update I find myself relying less and less on using Photoshop (I still need it -- just not nearly as often).

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I have a 3 year old MacBook Pro with MAC OSX 10.6.8, iPhoto '09 version 8.1.2 and have downloaded two software programs: one is Aperture 3.2 and the other is Photoshop Elements 9 (which I got from a friend who didn't need it). I am totally happy with the

I have a 3 year old MacBook Pro with MAC OSX 10.6.8, iPhoto ’09 version 8.1.2 and have downloaded two software programs: one is Aperture 3.2 and the other is Photoshop Elements 9 (which I got from a friend who didn’t need it).
I am totally happy with the way iPhoto organizes my photos and how I can work with iMovie to create slide shows with music from iTunes, etc.
I have been shooting mostly high resolution jpegs and I continue to learn more and more about photography, post processing etc. I realize that the small adjustments I can make in iPhoto are good, and are adequate most of the time. However, a have started to experiment with shooting RAW images and would like to go the next step, ie. post processing.I am totally technically challenged and need SIMPLE, INTUITIVE programs and am certainly NOT anywhere ready for Photoshop CS whatever!
After having these programs sit on my computer, I decided to try to see if I could figure them out. When I opened Aperture, this is what first comes up.
“Welcome to Aperture 3.2
Your library needs to be upgraded to work with this version of Aperture. Once upgraded, you will not be able to use this library with previous versions of Aperture.
Upgrading a library from previous versions of Aperture 3 generally takes a few minutes or less, though larger libraries will take longer. After that, Aperture 3.2 will upgrade your library's thumbnails, but you can use the application during that time.
Tip: To open a different library, quit Aperture and hold the Option key down while starting Aperture
Current Library Location:
Jadzia (home) -----Pictures------Aperture Library
QUIT UPGRADE”
I have heard horror stories about moving your entire library to Aperture, ending up with 2 libraries, etc. etc. hence my previous reluctance in attempting Aperture. In addition, many of my photography friends are saying: Go with Lightroom 3.....you’ll love it!
So here is my dilemma. I don’t want to mess around with my iPhoto library. All I want to be able to do, is to isolate a few photos, export them to Aperture, Elements, and work on them there, then bring them back into iPhoto.
Can I do this? Should I forget about Aperture and Elements and look at purchasing yet another program like Lightroom?

Export those few photos via the File ➙ Export ➙ File Export menu option with Kind = Original to the Desktop. Then import them into the Aperture library. That would keep one copy in your iPhoto library and another in your Aperture library to edit, etc.
You can use Photoshop Elements 9 from within iPhoto as your editor of choice. However, if you edit a raw file in iPhoto with PSE9 the resulting edited version must be saved outside the iPhoto Library and imported back in as a new file. For editing jpegs just do a Save (not a Save As) and it all will be kept within iPhoto.
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
OT

Photoshop CS5, Photoshop CS5 ex, Photoshop Elements 9, iPhoto, Aperture????

Okay.... so I am a bit overwhelmed with trying to decide if I should be upgrading from iPhoto or not.
iPhoto has been great for making my photobooks. But, on occasion, it has been a bit frustrating trying to get the right number of vertical vs. horizontal photos on a page. Sometimes when adding, if you add in the right order, configurations can change, usually in size (not necessarily orientation unless it is the fewer photos per page layouts 2-3 or 4). But, it makes it go really quickly to do albums as there isn't much engineering going on as you go from page to page (on occasion, I make a separate dummy album that has a different theme that I think manages my horizontal v. vertical issue or perhaps the number of photos allowed on a page (as some themes only have up to 4 or 6 photos per page and on occasion, I like to have more 9, for example)).
Primarily, I have used iPhoto to do personal albums. I intend on possibly starting to offer my services to get albums done for people and/or do slideshow videos for them. With that, I do end up, even with my own, photos from years past or current that have coloring issues or rips/tears/fading.
As it is right now, I have used iPhoto to work on the highlights, shadows, etc, which for me right now, is by trial and error.... I don't really know what I am doing and iPhoto doesn't seem to care. Fortunately, whatever I do, I can go back to the original, which I think is true in Aperture as well... However, I think I might have heard differently with Photoshop (CS5 or Elements)?
I have not installed any plug-ins for the other printer services in iPhoto (eg. Leather Craftsmen), but, I know it is possible a client may want a 12x12 album or some of those other shapes, sizes, cover options out there.... e.g. Shutterfly, even.
One other bit of information is that I am not just a candid completely amateur photographer either. I do take quite a bit of photos with my Canon Rebel Xsi. Not top of the line.... but, although I can should in raw, have chose to always just go with jpeg as this is a hobby of mine and I really don't have loads of time to just adjust all my photos... nor necessarily the space on my computer to put everything at raw. But, I could be persuaded otherwise, if I really knew how to use and really know what the benefits of it are (again, I know I should take classes or something, just don't know where to focus my attention).
So, what am I asking? Well, a few things:
1. If my primary goal is to make Photobooks, which program(s) should I have?
2. I understand you could have iPhoto or Aperture and then edit photos in PhotoShop.... Does that save the file back to Aperture/iPhoto or does it make a separate file in Photoshop?
3. Which books, classes, etc would you suggest to learn the uses of such program(s)?
4. Does the program you mention in #1 strong enough to handle typical adjustments on jpegs-aging, color casts, lack of proper lighting, red-eye (iPhoto seems to do okay on this even in the auto function, but on occasion, it sometimes replaces with too dark of a correction, or not fully complete.)
5. Does Shutterfly have a print plug-in so I could make photobooks on either Aperture or iPhoto and have Shutterfly print? Or is that just available on Photoshop (unless I print to jpegs and then upload to Shutterfly using the Shutterfly uploader)?
6. Is it really beneficial to shoot in raw over jpeg?
7. If Photoshop is even part of your answer in #1, is it worth it to have CS5 or CS5 Extended with the 3D option?

1. If my primary goal is to make Photobooks, which program(s) should I have?
iPhoto is entirely template driven, Aperture's books are very customisable and there are losts of online options too. Google a bit and see what's out there.
2. I understand you could have iPhoto or Aperture and then edit photos in PhotoShop.... Does that save the file back to Aperture/iPhoto or does it make a separate file in Photoshop?
Yes and Yes. In iPhoto: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Note that iPhoto sends a copy+ of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.
In Aperture, Preferences _. Export and set your external editor there. WHen you send a pic to PS with Aperture it makes a tiif or psd and sends it over. Saving in Photoshop brings it back.
4. Does the program you mention in #1 strong enough to handle typical adjustments on jpegs-aging, color casts, lack of proper lighting, red-eye (iPhoto seems to do okay on this even in the auto function, but on occasion, it sometimes replaces with too dark of a correction, or not fully complete.)
Photoshop Elements is a good compromise between the cost of full photoshop and the features you'll need.
5. Does Shutterfly have a print plug-in so I could make photobooks on either Aperture or iPhoto and have Shutterfly print? Or is that just available on Photoshop (unless I print to jpegs and then upload to Shutterfly using the Shutterfly uploader)?
You could look that one up at Shutterfly yourself, no?
6. Is it really beneficial to shoot in raw over jpeg?
Depends on what you want to do... Really that's a massively basic question. I would check out some o the online Photo forums and see what advice you can find there tom get you started. You could do worse than look here
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/
7. If Photoshop is even part of your answer in #1, is it worth it to have CS5 or CS5 Extended with the 3D option?
Given the amount of your experience, rather than diving in and spending a whole lot of money, start with iPhoto and Photoshop Elements. Explore. IF you want to upgrade, when you're ready, migrate to Aperture and Elements. I think you're a good way from facing CS5 yet.
Regards
TD

Why does the image not open in Elements when I opt for Edit in Photoshop Elements 11 from the Photos tab in Aperture?

With an image in Aperture, when I got Photos one of the options offered is "Edit in Elements Photoshop 11", but although selecting this opens Elements, there is no image and it is necessary to open the image in the normal way from within Elements. Other plugins, e.g. from Topaz work superbly from within Aperture. I am puzzled to know the reason, and in particular if there is any setting in either Aperture of Elements that need to be attended to. I would be very grateful for any suggestions.
Barry Willcock

Hi Frank, and many thanks. I can now get the picture into Elements, and work on it. However, when I have finished, I save it (giving it another name that I can recognise if the amendments are slight) it puts the file back into the same folder, but I have then to import it into the Aperture library in order to see it back in Aperture. Not a big problem, but an interesting one.
Again, many thanks
Barry

Re Photoshop Elements 10 - who can recommend reference manuals about how to work between my existing Aperture 2.1.4 and my just purchased Photoshop Elements?

I shoot in Raw with a Canon G9 Compact - after rapidly ditching iPhoto in favour of Aperture, I now want to learn to use Photoshop Elements together with Aperture - I can obviously buy something like the "Dummies" or the "Missing Manual" books about Elements 10, but what can you recommend that will help me learn about the best ways to move images between the two, and how to combine the best features of Aperture and Elements? Thanks for any advice.

I will defer to Sierra Dragon, one of the strongest advocates of Referenced Masters on this forum, but I suspect that your upgrade would only engage about 32 GB of HD space.
I have always used a Managed Library because I like the import-and-forget security.
AP2 arranges each master, thumb, and preview into a single folder. AP3 rearranges things so that all of the masters are in one folder, thumbs another, and previews in another. This has the advantage of making it easier to find your masters, should you ever have to open the Package and look for them.
AP3 is very nice and, with at least 4 GB of RAM, tends to be very speedy. Were I thee, I would force a TM back up and then turn it off while you run the upgrade. Turn it back on only when you are sure that all is well.
If you search this forum for posts around the time that AP3 first came out, you will find that there was a list of cache and pref files that sometimes had to be deleted. I believe that subsequent versions of the AP3 incorporated this into the program as I have not heard of that trick being necessary for years.
In my case, I had a 150 GB Managed Master Library, so I copied it out on an external drive and ran the upgrade there. Once I was sure that it had worked (and it did, first time), I copied it back. As you might imagine, 150 GB over FW800 took some time, but I had three copies of my Library at all times.
A final note, if you are committed to using Referenced Masters (as I now am, having sprung for a SSD) remember that they are write once/read many. That is, they are NEVER rewritten once they are out on disk. I have mine on a dedicated 250 GB and it never fragments. Your Library, on the other hand, reads and writes all the time, keep it on your largest, fastest disk.
Best wishes.

How do I get Elements 12 to work as an external editor in Aperture?

I can't seem to get (my TRIAL Version) of Elements 12 to work properly as an external editor for Aperture.
Whilst I can import RAW or Jpeg images into the Elements 12 programme from my system files I can't export files from Aperture to Elements 12 from the Aperture workspace.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks

My guess would be that you chose the logical file rather than the correct file as the PSE editor. You want this one:

Using Elements with Aperture?

I recently signed up for the Elements free trial. I can see in Aperture where Elements is the external editor and can then open Elements accordingly. Problem I have is "how do I then get the picture(s) I want to edit into Elements (and, therefore, back to Aperture). At the moment the trial is a waste of my time. Does anyone have any ideas?

To edit an image in PSE from Aperture you need to set PSE as an external editor.
Please keep it in mind that you are selecting correct application file from Aperture preference.
Please refer this below screen shot.
Cheers!!!

Aperture 2 and Photoshop Elements 6

I'm wondering how Photoshop Elements 6 and Aperture 2 play together.
I'm considering purchasing PSE 6 to do some layer editing. I use Aperture 2 for photo organization, minor edits, printing, emailing, web publishing, etc. So Layers and some of the filters are really the only aspects that I'm interested in in PSE.
I demoed PSE 6 prior to getting Aperture, so now it will not let me re-trial it to determine how Aperture and PSE 6 interact together. I understand the gist of external editing with Aperture, so I'm specifically wondering about PSE. Anyone have problems or complaints? Is it a relatively smooth transition out of Aperture and back in from PSE? I've searched the forum and have not found anything to set off any warning bells for me... Thanks for your answers.
I did test Pixelmator, but it is just not "there" yet for me.
Thanks

You first have to set Elements as your external editor under Preferences -> Exports in Aperture. I'm exporting as regular tiff (not 16 bit), but I too would be interested in an answer on why tiff is better than psd. as stated earlier in this thread) You then export either by right clicking the photo you want to edit-> Edit with -> Elements (should be top on the list). Or I now use the keyboard shortcut to export: commandshiftO.
Elements then opens the image. I have had no problem then editing and command+S saving an image back into Aperture. The edited image will be next to the original and have a double-circle bullseye in the corner. Any further exports into Elements on that image are done on that same file, that is, no further versions are made as was done the first time.
good luck. And I am very impressed with the smooth interaction between Aperture and Elements. And am enjoying playing around with the power of Elements, although most of my basic edits will still be done in Aperture.

Elements don't open the TIFF which generated from Aperture

Hello
I use Mac OS X 10.6.8 with Aperture 3.2.2 and Elemets 10 on a MBP 17" 2,8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.
When I use in Aperture a RAW to edit it in Elements there is no pictute in Elements.
The TIFF in Aperture is generated from the RAW and Elements start but there is no picture in Elements.
When I use an other external Application, for example Preview this works.
When I use Drag&Drop from Aperture to icon of Elements in dock this works.
Normal way - with Photoshop CS 3 - on an other Mac with same application works well.
What can be the reason that Aperture and Elements don't work on my MBP ?
Regards
Jochen

So a year later and now you have me.
Using PS Elements 10 with Aperture and photos do not Reflect back.
I open Aperture and ask to edit with PS elements 10 (set up as described here)
make my edits. when ready to save, i hit "Save"
The default “save” is IMAGENUMBER .tif BUT at the bottom “Format” it says .tiff ?????
I hit save and it does not reflect back in Aperture. However if i change the IMAGENUMBER.tif to IMAGENUMBER.tiff it does reflect back.
Again I point out if I save it as the default it does not work. (meaning I don’t know where the saved version goes? It does not reflect back in Aperture, It ONLY works if I change it to .tiff or jpeg.
Thank you, Orly

TS2936 Aperture 3.3 will not transfer image to Adobe Elements 10

Since upgrading to Aperture 3.3 and trying to edit using Elements 10, Aperture opens Elements but does not send the image over. Because images are locked into the Aperture library I am unable to search for images in that library. Does anybody know how to sort this one out?

Since upgrading to Aperture 3.3 and trying to edit using Elements 10, Aperture opens Elements but does not send the image over. Because images are locked into the Aperture library I am unable to search for images in that library. Does anybody know how to sort this one out?

Workflow using photoshop elements as external editor

Hi.
I am very satisfied with aperture 3. I think it is an excellent program, and the organization of pictures are excellent. I love all the editing options as well. However I looked at some tutorials on photoshop elements 9, and really like some of the editing options there, so I am thinking of buying that program. I would like to use aperture 3 as my main photo editing program and organizing all my pictures via aperture 3. However on some pictures I would like to use elements to edit (remove unwanted persons and do on). As I understand it, i will have to set up aperture 3 so that elements will be my external editor. Will the changes I make in elements then be saved in the project library in aperture 3.
Can anyone with experience on this elaborate?

Gunfighter, how did you do it? The only options the "home" screen provides are (1) welcome screen opens on start, (2) organizer starts behind welcome screen or (3) editor starts behind welcome screen. Surprisingly, when I start Elements 9 on its own, the welcome screen doesn't show and the program immediately opens in the edit mode. However, when I'm in Aperture and go to external editor, Elements 9 immediately opens with the welcome screen and the picture never transfers from Aperture to Elements; very frustrating! Appreciate any help you can provide.

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I have Aperture 3 and Photoshop Elements 9 on my iMac. If I want to use some of the editing features in Elements I select Edit with Photoshop Elements in the Photos drop down menu in Aperture. Elements opens but the photo does not load into Elements for editing. A very large PSD file is created in Aperture. I can drag the PSD file into Elements but when I want to save it after I have edited in Elements the image saves as a jpeg in a directory that makes no sense to me. The (elements) edited file does not appear in the Aperture browser .
Main Question: What am I doing incorrectly that the file does not load into Elements

Loukie,
Here is the solution...finally this fixed it for me...Someone else sent me this in another post...
It appears that I was using the wrong Photoshop Elements Editor....read this post...the first one I picked was not the correct one...the correct editor is buried in the folders...
I was using the wrong elements programme as the editor. go to the Adobe website for the fix. http://forums.adobe.com/message/4000591
HOpe this solves it for you...
Chris

Lightroom Vs. Aperture - mini shootout

As seen in my earlier thread, I've been playing with the 30 day trial of Lightroom trying to decide whether that tool is a better fit for my needs then Aperture.
While I've only spent a few hours with this on a small project I think I've been able to grasp some of the major elements of LR and I can compare them against aperture. I cannot say this is balanced or not, just my opinion.
User Interface
Both apps have very good but very different interfaces. I'm giving a slight edge to LR for its organization of tools but a nod to Aperture for its breadth. I think Aperture as a more rounded set of tools in the UI department. Take the loupe for instance, its better implemented in aperture. From what Ive read stacks are better also but I have yet to play with them in LR.
Workflow
LR imposes a more defined (but logical) workflow, i.e., Library module, develop module etc.
Aperture is more open ended, basically you can edit, categorize assign keywords in any order you wish
Give LR the win here but only slightly
Image adjustment
Lightroom has a more refined and robust set of editing tools. In this initial testing I've only worked on my images with default actions and LR seems to produce a more visually pleasing and accurate result. Can Aperture achieve the same level of work, I'm sure but it will take more fiddling. Can Lightroom produce even more stunning results I believe it can since Ive only played with the basic tools.
Organization
Aperture uses projects, folders, albums and smart albums.
Lightroom has folders which are logical and physical, collections(albumns). The physical organization of images occur within the app but its possible that they can get out of sync if a folder is moved in the finder.
Aperture wins on this this category, I use smart albums extensively and its really nice to set a keyword, say smugmug and have all images appear into an album (which I then export and upload to smugmug).
Performance.
Aperture runs ok most of the time on my machine, but its higher requirements locks out a lot of other machines and has bogged down on my from time to time (needlessly I might add).
Lightroom seems much more perky in interacting with the tools and images but Ill through out a little proviso, and that Im only dealing with a 100 images or so in LR and aperture has 10k. nonetheless performance is a common knock against aperture.
Printing
Ap had rudimentary printing at best
Lr has a much more flexible approach to printing but both still lack features and abilities that can be found in other apps like qimage
The winner?
Aperture Organization/categorization
LR won in Workflow, Image adjustment, performance.
Which one will I use, well I am leaning towards Lightroom but the most important area is image organization. All things being equal if I ned to spend most of my time trying to organize the images Im not sure this is the tools for me. Aperture lets me create a hierarchical structure very easily and with every shoot in a project its easy for me then to move on to image selection/keywords/editing. Its true the LR gave me better result out of the box but will it let me work the way I want to work thats the question.
BTW does anyone know when the introductory price goes away, that will also propel me into action.

A couple of additional shootout issues. The first one goes to Aperture, the second to Lightroom:
1. Aperture, it seems to me, makes better use of display real estate (and I'm not talking about multi-display support). I've been spending a lot of time recently exporting old projects from Aperture and importing them into LR folders. So I've been cmd-tabbing at high frequency between the two apps. I'm noticing that in aperture, my display feels bigger. No other way to describe it. (This is a G5 with a 23" cinema HD.) I think it has to do with the fact that in Aperture, interface element are more space efficient. lists tighter, Icons, tags, type all smaller and tighter, less space used dividing elements. And yet not feeling crowded or chaotic. LR has room for improvement in this area.
2. Lightroom, on the other hand, sports a different palpable advantage of it's own: Good Will. Now I'm a big Apple fan. I'm responsible for IT here and I've administered lots of Macs over the years (and a few PCs). I'm a shareholder even. I really believe Apple does great work, innovates in ways no other company is doing, builds great products and great user experiences. But you got to hand it to Adobe: By opening and sharing their development process with us, via the Labs site and the public beta program for LR and now PSCS3, and in a lot of other ways, they've converted a whole class of users into collaborators, and therefore stakeholders, in a way that Apple doesn't do. Where Apple keeps secrets to optimize the big product intro splash, Adobe is opening up to its customers in a variety of ways, creating an effective collaborative community. LR is a good example of the success of that approach. Apple has room for improvement in this area.
Tim Wilson
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