Aperture seeing changes to referenced iPhoto library

I am a newbie with Aperture 3 having used iPhoto for a couple of years. I have 3 or 4 older iPhoto libraries and a current iPhoto library. My wife uses the same iMac and likes iPhoto.
I have set up Aperture to reference all the iPhoto libraries.
My question is simple: what do I need to do to make sure Aperture is able to see any new photos that get imported to iPhoto by my wife? It doesn't seem to see the changes. Surely I don't need to re-import each time she adds a couple of shots?

I have set up Aperture to reference all the iPhoto libraries.
No you haven't, because Aperture is not able to do that. What you've done is set Aperture to import files while leaving them in their current location, which happens to be inside an existing iPhoto Library.
The only integration between Aperture and iPhoto is to assist you to migrate from iPhoto to the more powerful app. There is no dynamic relation between the two apps, iPhoto has no ability whatever to read the Aperture Library and what ability Aperture has towards the iPhoto one is designed for migration.
Specifically:
what do I need to do to make sure Aperture is able to see any new photos that get imported to iPhoto by my wife?
Nothing. There's nothing you can do.
It doesn't seem to see the changes.
See above.
Surely I don't need to re-import each time she adds a couple of shots?
Surely you do. File -> Import -> Show iPhoto Browser will allow you to bring over individual pics/ Events or Albums. However this will only work in Managed mode, the files will be copied to the Aperture Library.
Regards
TD

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