Aperture - strange behavior with external editor

Although I don't do this often, there are times I need to edit images with a 3rd party editor like Elements or Pixelmator. I noticed when I send an image by Photos> Edit with Pixelmator, the image that comes in is lacking any edits I may have created previously, particularly with Nik filters. Obviously, those edited versions are not being exported to the editor correctly. However, if I first "export" the image, and then bring it in an editor, the edits are carry over as one would expect. I am using the latest versions of both Aperture and Lion.
Anyone else noticing this and is there a way to change this strange behavior?
Ken

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Chau wrote:
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