Aperture thumbnail generation forever

Hello
I like to have all my pictures in one place to share them with apple tv, so I decided to give aperture a try.
I imported all images (about 36000 from 12 years) into one aperture library.
Before importing I switched off face detection and preview generation.
After finishing I had a 236 GB library, but aperture starts to generate some thumbnails.
Problem is, it freezes on generating them.
I used the activity window to hunt down what is happeing and found out that it stops when it comes to a specific picture.
So I managed to
1) start aperture
2) open activity window
3) stop the thumbnail generation when it starts
4) delete the picture where the aperture have problems
This way I managed to get from about 5700 thumbanisl to do to a number of 3500 thumbnails to do, but aperture keeps freezing at a single pic (the bad one)
But now, aperture starts thumbnail generation so quickly that I cannot open activity window and stop the progress before it reaches the bad one.
@Apple: could we have an option like "safe start" that won't schedule any processes for thumbnails before the user wants it?
So, any ideas out there? I tried everything I found like repairing, rebuilding, no help.
Is there any kind of log to look into? I am a newbie in mac os and aperture.
Regards
Klaus

This "bad" one is a video, some of the former bad ones were videos too, so does aperture have a problem in general with video files? Maybe its a good idea to just import all pictures and do the videos in a separate step afterwrds? Otherwise with 36000 pics (and about 300 videos between them) this is tedious...
Klaus,
Aperture may have a problem with videos, if you have a problematic video codec installed, if the video is corrupted, or incompatible with Aperture. What kind of videos did you import?
If you can, delete the whole project, so that you do not need to select the video and reimport only the image files.
Check, if you have the 3ivxVideoCodec installed - if yes, remove it,
see: Aperture 3: May be unresponsive or have slower performance with third-party video codec
This codec could have been installed for example by FlipForMac.
If you do not want to delete all of your last import, you could try to delete the bad video directly from the Aperture library package:
Quit Aperture. Ctrl-click the Aperture library and select "Show Package Content" from the pop-up menu. Open the "masters" folder and navigate to the Year-Month-day of your last import. If you can find the video there, remove it, but don't change anything else. Afterwards the video should show as missing. Delete the version from the library. The dates in the Library package are based on "Import session", not capture dates.
Before manipulating the Library, make sure you have a current backup.
Regards
Léonie
A list of supported videos is here, but it is not exhaustive:
Aperture 3: About Video and Audio formats in Aperture

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