Aperture Vault vs Time Machine~which is best to retrive photos with all info

Aperture Vault vs Time Machine~which is best to retrive photos with all info?

Both will restore your Aperture library. And both will not allow to restore single images. You always have to restore the complete library.
The difference is, that Aperture vaults are archival backups. You make a snapshot at a certain point of time. Time Machine will give  you the option to go back in time to several different moments. A vault is snapshot of only one moment and you would need to create several vault to be able to go back to earlier versions of the library.

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  • Backup Storage - Aperture Vault versus Time Machine versus daily SuperDuper

    What value does dumping the Aperture library to an Aperture Vault give in addition to running Time Machine to one drive and a daily SuperDuper copy to a second drive with irregular SuperDuper copies to an external drive that can be removed from the machine room.

    SImon,
    Vault and Time Machine address different needs. Probably you will want to have both.
    The advantage of Time Machine: incremental backups of previous versions, very compact storage. And you can integrate it into your regular backup of the whole system and include the regular masters as well. But the disadvantage: Time Machine decides for you, what will be deleted, if the backup drives get full. You do not have control over what will be saved and what not from the previous versions.
    The advantage of vaults: You can make full backups of your library for well defined moments in time - snapshots of important states. I'd create a vault, whenever I make a major upgrade of the system at least.
    Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
    If the graphical user interface is unresponsive, like when updating a vault, you can use the Terminal to send the "termination signal" to Aperture: Sometimes this will succeed, even if the "Quit" button does not work:
    Look for the Process ID of Aperture in the Activity Monitor (launch Applications > Utilities > Activity Monitor" and click the CPU heading. This will bring Aperture close to the top of the list. Make a note of the PID number in the first column, in this case 66550.
    Launch a Terminal window and enter the following command:
    kill -TERM 66550           (insert Aperture's PID instead of 66550)
    This will send the "Software Termination Signal - TERM to Aperture, the same as pressing the "Quit" button should do, but send it directly, and not from the GUI that is unresponsive. This way I always succeded in cancelling a vaul update without force quitting. Not all processes can be terminated this way, however. The Terminal.app is also in the Applications > Utilities folder.
    Regards
    Léonie

  • Aperture Vault or Time Machine

    I just migrated from being a long time Windows user (and using Lightroom) to my first iMac and Aperture.
    Just beginning to import my images into Aperture and had read a few posts about "vault" which I assume is Aperture's way of backing up either it's library or the master files.
    If this is the case - and I am using Time Machine to back up the entire iMac drive - what is the advantage of using vaults also?
    Thanks, Steve

    Note that Masters need only be backed up once (but to multiple backup locations) and that backup should happen immediately after copying to the hard drive from the camera card, before involving Aperture or any other images management app.
    Backup of Masters does not get complex with Referenced Masters, it is very simple because it is already done before ever entering Aperture. Vaults of course are used to back up the Library.
    Time Machine is an ongoing regular-routine backup process. Image originals instead need irregularly timed backup, once.
    IMO referenced Masters make far more sense than building huge managed-Masters Libraries.
    • Hard disk speed. Drives slow as they fill so making a drive more full (which managed Masters always does) will slow down drive operation.
    • Database size. Larger databases are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller databases are.
    • Vaults. Larger Library means larger Vaults, and Vaults are an incremental repetitive backup process, so again larger Vaults are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller Vaults are. One-time backup of Referenced Masters (each file small, unlike a huge managed-Masters DB) is neither incremental nor ongoing; which is by definition a more stable process.
    Managed-Masters Libraries can work, but they cannot avoid the basic database physics.
    HTH
    -Allen Wicks

  • Aperture Vault and Time Machine

    Does anyone know how this will operate ?
    Will the Aperture Vault be TM 'unaware' ?
    Roger

    I guess there'll be a new 'vault' mechanism, as TM backs up your hard drive and vaults typically reside on another drive. whether or not TM can work with other drive I don't know.
    Perhaps vaults will remain largely unchanged and be used for recovering entire projects or libraries, and TM will allow you to go back through previous version of the current file, or restore individual images that you may have deleted.
    Regards
    Steve

  • I would like suggestions as about a name of good file save program that will allow me to just make a "full" file save - not like Time Machine which makes a "full" save and then all it does is record changes.

    How can I tell which partition I am using at a particular time.  I would expect that one of the two ICONS, Macintosh HD and Macintosh HD-2 would be highlighted??

    Time Machine does save the full file(s) so I'm not sure what you want, however if you are looking for a method to clone  your internal HD so that it's a) an exact duplicate and b) bootable then you should consider SuperDuper and Carbon Copy Cloner. Both do the same thing, one is not better than the other. Some people prefer SD some prefer CCC.

  • Time Machine wiped out my entire hard drive with all of my family photos

    I am a new mac owner and i hooked up my WD external hard drive to my new imac. i was familiarizing myself with the applications and i clicked on time machine. it asked me to select a drive to use for the backup and i of course selected my external hard drive. Then it said that it was going to format the drive and i said NO WAY! i canceled out of the application immediately because this drive has all of my family photos. well low and behold, i cant access any of the files on the hard drive and when i hook it up to a pc, it doesn't recognize it at all. when i mange the device in the device manager it shows that it is there and it says that it is empty! SO MUCH FOR TIME MACHINE AND CANCELING THE FORMAT! I hope this saves someone from losing all of their photos. i dont know what time machine did, but i cant even get the hard drive working any more.
    C

    The files are very likely still there and recoverable. However, *it is very important that you do not use the drive until you recover your files* or you risk overwriting the data.
    FileSalvage is a recovery tool that says it can recover files from a FAT32 formatted disk:
    http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?mainpage=product_info&productsid=1
    You could also use a PC file recovery program but I'm not at all familiar with any of those.
    You should report this incident to Apple Feedback and/or telephone them.
    http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/

  • Vault or Time Machine?

    I frequently back up my vault in Aperture.  Should I be excluding my Aperture library from Time Machine?  Does it matter?  Are there pros and cons? 
    Thank you so much.

    To my chagrin, not a single photo in my Aperture has ever been saved in any backup, EVER.
    Time Machine will backup all your photos, unless you have excluded them from backup - all my photos are on my TimeMachine backup, without any any problem.
    Check your TimeMachine settings:
    Open "System Preferences > Time Machine" and click the "Options" button. This will show you, if items have been excluded from the Time Machine backup. Do you see your Aperture Library there? If yes, delete it from the "Exclude" list.
    How do you tell, that your images have not been backed up? In the Time Machine backup you will see your Aperture library, if you view the folder, that is containing your Aperture Library, but you will not see the individual photos, if they are managed and hidden inside the Aperture Library package.
    Only if your images are referenced, will they be visible in the Time Machine backup.
    I have no idea what VAULT is, however I definitely need to get in to see a GENIUS & get them to help/show me, what I need to do so I can back up my Aperture photos.
    Vaults are snapshots of the Aperture Library, and will contain the managed images, but not the referenced images. I prefer Time Machine backups to vaults, because they will incude my photolibraries automatically, when I backup my system.
    Regards
    Léonie

  • Is there any advantage in using Vault over Time Machine?

    Hi all,
    Yesterday I imported around 6000+ pictures from iPhoto and consolidated them into my Aperture library. After much re-organisation into projects, folders etc. I decided to update my backup Vault to preserve all my hard work. The Vault is located on a connected external drive with plenty of spare storage. I had previously backed up successfully to the vault when there was only a few dozen pictures in my library.
    After initiating the Vault update process I then left it to get on it (and to have dinner and then watch the football...) and after several hours was dismayed to find that the process appeared to be stuck at just over 50% completion. It was obvious that no further progress was being made.
    I was also concerned that there appeared to be no mechanism to cancel the process and the only course of action I could take was to apply a Force Quit against Aperture - not something that I care to do, if I can possibly avoid it.
    After a rudimentary search of this community I saw that several others had experienced the same problem - although some suggested that a fix had been applied in recent versions (although I am running the latest version).
    Given this, I'm reluctant to use the Vault again - particularly as there appears to be no means of cancelling a stuck job. I do however use Time Machine, so my questions are:
    1) Do I really need to use Vault if I have Time Machine making regular backups of my Aperture library to an external drive?
    2) Does using Vault give any advantages over Time Machine?
    3) Is anyone else experiencing this problem with the current version of Aperture (v3.3)?
    4) Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
    Thanks in anticipation,
    Simon.

    SImon,
    Vault and Time Machine address different needs. Probably you will want to have both.
    The advantage of Time Machine: incremental backups of previous versions, very compact storage. And you can integrate it into your regular backup of the whole system and include the regular masters as well. But the disadvantage: Time Machine decides for you, what will be deleted, if the backup drives get full. You do not have control over what will be saved and what not from the previous versions.
    The advantage of vaults: You can make full backups of your library for well defined moments in time - snapshots of important states. I'd create a vault, whenever I make a major upgrade of the system at least.
    Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
    If the graphical user interface is unresponsive, like when updating a vault, you can use the Terminal to send the "termination signal" to Aperture: Sometimes this will succeed, even if the "Quit" button does not work:
    Look for the Process ID of Aperture in the Activity Monitor (launch Applications > Utilities > Activity Monitor" and click the CPU heading. This will bring Aperture close to the top of the list. Make a note of the PID number in the first column, in this case 66550.
    Launch a Terminal window and enter the following command:
    kill -TERM 66550           (insert Aperture's PID instead of 66550)
    This will send the "Software Termination Signal - TERM to Aperture, the same as pressing the "Quit" button should do, but send it directly, and not from the GUI that is unresponsive. This way I always succeded in cancelling a vaul update without force quitting. Not all processes can be terminated this way, however. The Terminal.app is also in the Applications > Utilities folder.
    Regards
    Léonie

  • Aperture hobbled after Time Machine restore

    Aperture 3.1.1 on Mac Pro w/10.6.6
    Secondary MacPro HDD with all my photos (managed library) on it failed last weekend. Restored entire drive from Time Machine which seemed to work. Now, however, any project I open takes at least a minute to display the photos (showing dotted outlines instead).
    I've run all the repair options offered when launching with cmd+option. Any other troubleshooting tips that might help?

    Thanks, but that didn't help. The problem was that I missed the following file:
    /Library/Application Support/ProApps/Aperture System ID
    And adding it back from my backup... and all everything is fine again.

  • How can I restore a .aplib Aperture library from time machine?

    When I try and restore my Aperture I get folders instead of a single .aplib file.  Does anyone know how I can restore the .aplib file so I can open it?

    How are you trying to resore it?  If you enter Time Machine, find the version of the library you want to resore select it and click restore you shouke be good to go.
    If a library of the same nae still exists in folder you're restoring to you'll get a window asking what you want to do, keep current, keep both or just keep the restored version.
    If on the other hand you are opening the Time Machine disk and going to the folder with the library in it and trying to just drag it out all bets are off.
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  • I've used an external drive for time machine which has important files on it. After trying to back up my computer, it suddenly needed to be "repaired" by utilities. Now it's not being "seen" at all! How do I recover my important files off the drive?

    I've used an external drive for time machine which has important files on it. After trying to back up my computer, it suddenly needed to be "repaired" by utilities. Now it's not being "seen" at all! How do I recover my important files off the drive?

    If the external drive can be seen at all in Disk Utility, follow the instructions for repair here.

  • I have just upgraded from a Macbook to a Macbook Air. I have been using a iomega external hard drive for Time Machine, which use a Firewire. However, Macbook Air's do not have a Firewire port and i cannot find an adaptor anywhere. Can anyone help?? Thanks

    I have just upgraded from a Macbook to a Macbook Air. I have been using a iomega external hard drive for Time Machine, which use a Firewire. However, Macbook Air's do not have a Firewire port and i cannot find an adaptor anywhere. Can anyone help?? Thanks

    There has never been a reliable firewire ---> USB adapter suitable for external high speed storage.  This was a major issue when the MacBooks lost the firewire port a number of years ago (Apple subsequently brought it back).
    The only high speed port on the Air is the ThunderBolt port.  There are external ThunderBolt drive options out there, but they're somewhat more expensive than traditional USB/FireWire options.

  • Library Update rqstd on Aperture 3.2; now won't open get msg "error opening data base for the library "~/Pictures/Aperture Library.aplibrary"   TIme machine won't load backup "error code -8003"

    Aperture working on OS 10.6.8 then Library Update rqstd on Aperture 3.2; said yes;
    now Aperture won't open,  get msg "error opening data base for the library "~/Pictures/Aperture Library.aplibrary"  
    TIme machine won't load backup "error code -8003"
    Tried reloading Aperture 3.2 but get same result.

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  • Aperture Library and Time Machine back up

    I just did my first Time Machine back-up on an external HD, currently have no more space on my Mac's HD.
    Can I delete all of my Aperture Library to make room for new projects and rest assured that these are backed-up on my external HD?
    How do I look for these backed up files using time machine...I currently view all my pictures using Aperture, I do not have a single file exported...

    How do I look for these backed up files using time machine...I currently view all my pictures using Aperture, I do not have a single file exported...
    To use your Time Machine backup with aperture, you need to restore the Aperture library from Time Machine.
    A Time Machine backup is a great backup scheme and allows you to recover your files, if need be,  but it is not an archive, that you can use instead of the backed-up files.
    I just did my first Time Machine back-up on an external HD, currently have no more space on my Mac's HD.
    Move your Aperture library to a second drive, before you delete the library from your Mac's HD. Otherwise you will not be able to useit with Aperture. Make sure the drive you use for your Aperture library and and other media is formatted for Mac, see this link:  Format external drives to Mac OS Extended before using with Aperture
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  • My Intel iMac with 4 ext, daisy chained drives freezes up sometimes. If I unplug all drives there is no problem. Also Disk Warrior gives me the error msg,that in Time Machine, (which is on a lg. (1TB ext. HD) error msg me that there is not enough memory

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