Aperture with NAS

Hi,
New to a Mac, and had been trying to use iPhoto.
My issue is that I have a NAS with all photos on, I've bought a MacBook Air with 128gb SSD so don't really want to be storing a lot locally.
iPhoto didn't seem to meet my requirements, as it was all or nothing... i.e. Library either locally or remotely. Locally - my photo directory is 120gb... so no room locally. Remotely - its not very fast as I use the air over wireless.
I read a few sites and it seems that Aperture might work for me, as I can have the master photos on NAS and thumbnails etc locally.
I ideally want to use the application to view photos, tag faces and locations, print photos, make books etc - there will not be that much editing going on. Additionally, I will be copying my photos manually to my NAS initially and then importing from there into Aperture.
I've downloaded the 30 day trial, but not sure how to accomplish what I need!?
Thanks in advance
Peter

More to the point:
Aperture: Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library
While the liked KB article refers to the Library's location, users here have reported trouble with Masters on NAS. Aperture's handling of Referenced Masters works very well for those with laptops. The proper installation, however, is with locally-mounted external drives. NAS may prove to be troublesome. Personally, I recommend against it.
Again -- putting some or all of your Library on your SSD, and some or all of your Masters on an external drive, would give you a robust, speedy, and flexible set-up.
Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- a major correction.

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Hi,
I would like to make my Aperture library accessible from severals Macs and for different users on these Macs --- not at the same time. The idea is that only one user from one Mac can use Aperture at a given time.
The basic idea is to install the Aperture library on a Network Attached Storage (NAS) --- either will all photos included or with all photos stored in a separated folder structure --- next to the library ("externally referenced masters").
The NAS I am planning to use is a QNAP TS 239 Pro II+, which will be attached to a Gigabit Ethernet network (to which all Macs are connected too). Following the reviews, the QNAP should be capable to deliver a read/write performance in the order of 70 Mb/s ... hence performance-wise there should be no problem.
I've read through various forums and found many messages telling that using Aperture with a NAS is not possible or at least not a good idea. The posts in the forum were partially a bit confusing; people were telling contradictory things. I also had the impression that the answers depend on the actual version of Aperture. Apple itself put in the release notes of Aperture 3.1.1 about Vaults: "Fixes an issue that could sometimes cause Aperture on a computer with Mac OS X v10.5.8 Leopard to stop responding while updating a vault stored on a network volume." Hence, it seems that Aperture 3.1.1 can work with a NAS ... at least it can use vaults that are stored on a NAS. On the other hand, it's exactly the topic of vaults where many people say that this does not work with a NAS ...
To clarify things, I try to get some clear and competent answers here. The questions are:
Can one store and use the Aperture library on a NAS (whose disk is formatted using a UNIX file system, e.g. EXT4) ?
If yes, does this work in both configurations: (a) with a library containing the masters, and (b) with a library with externally referenced masters (that are also located on the NAS) ?
If a user on a given Mac on the network has opened Aperture (and thus the library on the NAS), is this library the blocked for other users ? (That should ideally be the case.)
If it is NOT possible to use an Aperture library on the NAS, is it then possible to store it on an external, HFS+ formatted drive connected to the NAS via USB ? (QNAP allows to format its external drives with HFS+).
I know that putting everything on an iSCSI target volume on the NAS is a solution, but is iSCSCI properly working under OS X (10.6). I read that one has to install an iSCSI Initiator software first ... which is not from Apple itself.
What about Vaults: According to the Aperture 3.1.1 release notes, it seems to be possible to use vaults on a NAS ... is this really the case ?
Is usage of Aperture on a NAS depending on the file protocol used to transfer the data ? I read also that if one uses the AFP protocol (supported in a QNAP NAS) then everything's fine ... Is this the case ?
Thanks a lot in advance for any clear and correct answer!
Rainer

Can one store and use the Aperture library on a NAS (whose disk is formatted using a UNIX file system, e.g. EXT4) ?
Not reliably, no. You will encounter issues. You could use Mac OS X disk images on the server, mount them on a client, and work that way. Note only one machine can mount the disk image at a time.
If yes, does this work in both configurations: (a) with a library containing the masters, and (b) with a library with externally referenced masters (that are also located on the NAS) ?
(a) no (b) no.
If a user on a given Mac on the network has opened Aperture (and thus the library on the NAS), is this library the blocked for other users ? (That should ideally be the case.)
Aperture does no locking. There is a very high likelihood you will corrupt the library if you do this.
If it is NOT possible to use an Aperture library on the NAS, is it then possible to store it on an external, HFS+ formatted drive connected to the NAS via USB ? (QNAP allows to format its external drives with HFS+).
How would you be accessing it then? If it's over a file protocol (SMB or NFS or ...) it likely won't work.
I know that putting everything on an iSCSI target volume on the NAS is a solution, but is iSCSCI properly working under OS X (10.6). I read that one has to install an iSCSI Initiator software first ... which is not from Apple itself.
Right. There is no Apple-provided iSCSI initator. I don't know how well 3rd party initators work.
What about Vaults: According to the Aperture 3.1.1 release notes, it seems to be possible to use vaults on a NAS ... is this really the case ?
I've done vaults reliably for years using a Mac OS X disk image stored on the NAS, that I mount before backing up. I wouldn't do it "naked" (i.e. stored directly on the NAS).
Is usage of Aperture on a NAS depending on the file protocol used to transfer the data ? I read also that if one uses the AFP protocol (supported in a QNAP NAS) then everything's fine ... Is this the case ?
AFP might have a better chance than other protocols but... frankly... it's a bad idea. If you MUST share a library across many machines, use something like a Promise DS4600 (direct attached) and plug it into a machine when you're using it.

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Here's what I'd like to do: Have a storage central to our home office, which consists of two iMacs, a MacBook Pro, iPad, two wireless printers, two iPhones. I just purchased a 6TB Lacie 2big NAS and the 6th gen AirPort Extreme. Currently, I am able to access the storage wirelessly just fine, which is great, but I am working with large files (10gb-60gb) and needing to move them a little quicker. Most of the time, these files are being dumped onto the one iMac by way of Compact Flash cards via a highspeed card reader. I need to be able to access those files from (most importantly) the iMacs and (not so importantly) the MBP, which again, I can right now, but the transfer from CF card to iMac to NAS takes way too long wirelessly. So, what are my options? Do I get two more gigabit Ethernet cables and run them from the iMacs directly into the other two ports on the AirPort Extreme or should I purchase a separate gigabit switch then connect that with NAS and two iMacs or is there another option that will give me optimal transfer speeds from either iMac (including external HD's attached to the iMacs) to the NAS?
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should I have the base station set to run bridge vs route or does that not affecting anything?
If you have the AirPort base station set to "bridge", then the signal will pass through the AirPort and on to your modem/router which will do the actual "routing".
That's OK, as long as the modem/router also has 1,000 Mbps Gigabit Ethernet ports.
However.....if the modem/router has slower 10/100 Mpbs ports, the Gigabit signal will slow down by a factor of 10 passing through your router, and file transfers will be much, much slower, as you can imagine.
Another way of saying the same thing is that to get faster Gigabit speeds, everything has to be Gigabit capable.
Unfortunately, Bridge Mode is the correct network setting for the AirPort Extreme if you have a modem/router "upstream" on the network. Then you may get caught in a Catch 22 situation.
if I opt to use a switch (so I can add another 2big NAS), will that result in slower sports vs going straight through the AirPort Extreme
No, speed will not be affected either way, since it makes no difference how things are set up....so choose the setup that is easiest to implement.
In other words, if it is easier to run a single Ethernet cable from the AirPort Extreme to the Gigabit switch and plug other devices into the switch, then that is the way to go. The performance will be the same as if you had run two separate Ethernet cables to the AirPort Extreme.

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1. If Aperture is importing your psd files but not showing an image, you probably need to change some preferences in PS. Apple has a tech note showing how to set the PS prefs here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302624
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Pick the file, choose "Edit in External Editor." Aperture duplicates the file and opens that in PS. Make some changes, save and return to Aperture. Notice the original master and this new changed version are in a stack. There should be a badge on the changed version indicating it has been edited externally. Here's the trick: Unstack the two images and delete the original master. Now you have only the externally edited master in your Aperture library. If you choose "Edit In External Editor" with this file, Aperture will not duplicate it and send the duplicate to PS, it will send the selected file.
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Hi David,
Coming in and whining loudly is rude. We are all volunteers here, voluntarily sharing our expertise so that users like you can make the most of their time with Aperture. Speaking just for myself: although I do care about your success with software (it's why I'm here), I don't care what software you use. If you want to use Lightroom, do so, and post your questions in an appropriate forum.
Burning files to a CD is a file operation done at the system level (it is built into OS X). Aperture lets your create sharable image-format files from your Images. You then use OS X's tools to burn those files to a CD. Iirc, you can set up a "Burn Folder" in Finder, into which you can export files created from your Images, and with a single click burn your CD.
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