APEX V3 that comes with 11g -- Fundamentally broken?

I have two instances of APEX v3 running. One was an upgrade from HTMLDB v2.0 the other is the version that came with 11g. The 11g version seems to be fundamentally broken and buggy. It continually asks me for an XDB login, the applications that I can import into the upgraded v3 version, import into this version missing half of the components. This list of bugs and fixes is becoming endless.
I have read the notes, this forum, and have an SR on the matter. Most people seem to be aware of the APEX 11g issues and I have been able to fix some of them. I am wondering if I should uninstall the version that came with the database and install the stand-alone version. Thoughts?

j_70,
When you installed 11g, did you do a clean database install or did you do an upgrade? I tried doing the upgrade process 5 times and they all had problems, so I finally settled on a clean install (software only), then created a database with all of my tablespaces, then exported and imported all of the data from my 10g database. The upgrade process was (once again) unusable for me.
If you did a process similar to mine above, when you imported, did you export and import the Apex schemas? That doesn't work at all, and does lead to numerous problems. The Apex schemas need to have the applications exported and the imported back through the Apex interface. That is the only way it works if you are changing versions like going from 10g with Apex 3.0.1.0.7 to 11g with 3.0.1.0.8 (I probably got the Apex versions wrong). Otherwise, you wind up with some of the older Apex 'data' (tables, data, etc.) overwriting the newer version in 11g, and that causes problems. This is exactly like the case of not importing the system (system, sys, sysaux) schemas into a newer version.
If you're not the DBA, ask your DBA how the 11g install was performed. It could be that they did the 11g install the wrong way. I know this was my most difficult upgrade process yet, and I've been doing this since version 5, about 16 years now.
Anyway, the point of all of the above is that when done properly, Apex itself doesn't have any problems. Actually, the Oracle database didn't have any 'major' problems either (a few minor ones, but I worked through those finally). But, when done improperly, the data migration from an old version to a new version can cause all kinds of problems. Based on what I experienced when I migrated my system from 10g to 11g, it sounds like this may be what you are experiencing. And none of this has anything to do with Apex.
I would suggest uninstalling Apex, then install it fresh (so you know you have a working, clean install), then import your applications through the Apex interface. You shouldn't have any problems if you do it this way.
For the record, I would also trust what Tyler, Joel, Scott Spadafore and Carl say a lot more than Oracle Support, especially when it comes to Apex.
My last experience with Oracle Support was with a problem I had in 11g with views that use the ANSI join syntax. I used the USING clause, since I was performing the join between three tables that had a common column name (per all of the documentation), but I kept getting a 'unabiguous column' error message. The 'fix' was to change all of my views to use the ON syntax instead. Oracle Support insisted that this is the correct behaviour, even though all the documentation I've seen everywhere states otherwise. In short, Oracle Support is good in that they will eventually get you working again, but they are not experts.
Send Joel the SR# so he can investigate further. I'm pretty darn sure that he'll discover in this case Oracle Support was wrong (again), and have a solution for you if the above uninstall, import process doesn't fix your problem.
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