Apia, Samoa time zone support for iCloud

There does not seem to be support for the Apia, Samoa time zone in iCloud. This is an idiosyncratic time zone being UTC +13hrs with daylight savings (UTC +14hr) during the "summer" commencing at 3am on the last Sunday in September and ceasing at 4am on the first Sunday in April.
http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/samoa/apia
Tonga, Tokelau and Rawaki (Kiribati) have the same time zone but no DST.
American Samoa has the same time but a day earlier and no DST.
I tried to make an Apple support request but it wants an Apple hardware ID and I'm using iCloud on a Sony Vaio.

It looks like the reminders don't "float" - so all the dates and times I set for reminders while in St. Lous are reporting at weird times because of the time change from Tokyo time. Is there any way of fixing this short of resetting all the times?
Thanks,
doug

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Disable time zone support

Hello!
I have switched on support for time zones in iCal ages ago, or it switched on itself. However, i would like todisable it.
The problem is that i moved house and i am now in a different time zone, so all my old events are displayed an hour wrong.
I triedto play around with changing my time zone back where i used to be, then disable it, then changing back, etc. But it will always show up an hour wrong for whatever events i created in the old time zone.
Please help me to sort this out!
Thanks,
Bernhard

Do you use iCloud? If so, go to http://www.icloud.com and log in.
Then open the Calendars app from there, and click the cogwheel in the upper right. Go to Preferences > Advanced and turn off "Enable Time Zone Support".
Hopefully that will end your tie to the time zone support for your reminders.

Time zone support help: how do I enter an event and have it keep that time regardless of time zone?

I consistently enter events in one time zone, because that is just easier. I would prefer it KEEP them as entered, not revise them as I travel. IE, I live overseas and constantly travel. It is very difficult to keep track of my schedule if I must always calculate the time zones when entering or viewing events. How do I set it up to leave them as entered, even as I travel, without changing the ipAd clock to stay in one time zone?

Hi karlsf!
It sounds like you may need to adjust your time zone support settings. An article about doing this can be found here:
iOS: How to adjust Time Zone Support for calendars
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4576
Thanks for using the Apple Support Communities. Have a good one!
-Braden

HT4576 I want to set up appointment times for an overseas trip before I go, and see those local times in the places I visit, but also be able to set new appointments while I am traveling, in the local times. Can I do this with Time Zone Support? If not,

I want to set up appointment times for an overseas trip on my iPhone 4S before I go, and have them appear as I put them in (for the local time) when visiting other countries. I also want to be able to adjust times and set up new appointments when I am overseas for the local time. Can I do this using the Time Zone Support or any other way?
Basically I want to do what I can do with a piece of paper - write down the time for when I will be there, and have it viewable when I am there, but also be able to put down new times while there.

Hi.
Regarding your question about reverting back- yes, I think you can. If you make a backup of your current configuration in Server Admin (by dragging the configuration file to your desktop- cool, no?) then you can load that one back in should your configuration not work. If you have the manual from Apple it should describe this process.
Network speed post-op? I don't think you will need to worry. Even using home directories stored on our OS X Server there is no network slowdown (that you can notice or that impacts the wider LAN in any case). It shouldn't slow down access to files, applications (which still come from the local drive anyway) or individual internet connections (even with filtering).
In our experience some of these things have actually got faster- but a lot of that is user perception. Same goes for people who will know you have configured the server and that they are now accessing files through your network from the server, and who really think it is slower. File coming from your local hard drive will always be quicker- but network access isn't that bad that it will make you barf and run in the opposite direction.
Something to look at: connection speed between clients and switching technology in your office. In other words, what kinds of switches are you using, what line speed have you got (100MB/s?) and is the connection from your server to the switch gigabit? Make sure it is.
Enjoy
Paul
MacBook Pro 2.16GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

What does time zone support do on iCloud? Should I leave it off or turn it on?

I find time zone support to be one of the most confusing things Apple does.
If I travel from Chicago to Florida (Central to Eastern time) my appointment times change on the Mac.
I'm not sure what they will do on the iPhone,
and really, what does it do in iCloud? It is an advanced option as I found out when all my Chicago appointments showed up two hours earlier in the cloud.
I changed to Central time, using the instructions on iCloud, but what is the value of time zone support there? The Apple server is not moving when I travel. Should I just leave it turned off?

they are not always on the same time due to daytime saving time changes twice a year in Israel which are not syncronized with any changes in Gaza, Beirut, etc.

When time zone support is on even when I am on Jerusalem, when i create an appointment the time zone for the appointment is immediately changed to Gaza and even when I change it manually it returns to Gaza.

I have a 4s iPhone on IOS 6.0.1 with an Israeli Cellular provider.
I use Gmail services an exchange to sync my colander contacts and mail.
When the time zone support is set to ON in the Settings->mail, Contacts, Calendars->Time Zone Support
The time zone is showing Jerusalem (I am located in Tel-Aviv)
When I create a new Appointment, It Immediately changes the time zone of the appointment to Gaza.
Even if I change it back to Jerusalem it changes back to Gaza every time.
Only when the time zone support is set to OFF in the Settings->mail, Contacts, Calendars->Time Zone Support
The time zone in Gmail is ok and does not appear on the iPhone. (This is ok)
Dose any one know how do I make the iPhone not change the time zone to Gaza? And still keep the time zone support on?
TNX

they are not always on the same time due to daytime saving time changes twice a year in Israel which are not syncronized with any changes in Gaza, Beirut, etc.

Cannot completely turn off time zone support in the iPhone calendar

In iOS7 it was possible in settings to turn off time zone support in the calendar. (This is not the same as having the date and time of the phone automatically change to current time zone which is generally what one wants and is not affected by calendar time zone support.) The problem in iOS8 is that Time Zone Override is not the same as Time Zone on/off. Here is an an example.
1) you live in Chicago and central time is your "home" time zone.
2) you find out about a meeting in New York at 1:00pm next week. You want to add the meeting to your calendar. If you add it at 1:00pm, when you arrive in New York (and change time zones), it will change the meeting time to 2:00pm.
Time Zone Override does not turn off the time zone calendar support. It provides two different views (time in current time zone and time in home tine zone). But time zones are irrelevant when I am scheduling an event at a known time. (Time Zone Override ON seems to work only if you are out of your home time zone and schedule something in your home time zone. But this is almost never what I encounter since I am usually at home, and need to schedule an event outside my home time zone.)

It would seem that way. But with "time zone support" on, you'll simply view your events "as if" you were in a certain time zone.
Example: I create an event in California for 6pm. ( A "California event") If I turn "time zone support" on, and select my time zone as Los Angeles, nothing changes. But if I select Oklahoma city, the time WILL change to 8pm, because it assumes I need to view a "California event" in Central Time.
"Time Zone Support" was created for people that have phone conferences in different time zones. The feature allows one standard time to be used in the calendar, and anyone outside the time zone can use "time zone support" to read it in thier respective time zone.
I'm saying this feature is trying to complicatedly simplify the calendar. I can use the organ between my ears to assume the correct time zone. And having to dig into my preferences in order to view my events correctly is completely insane.
All I want is to create an event, set an alarm, and not have to EVER worry about it changing.
I assumed that turning "time zone support" off would accomplish this as it did in the past. But the calendar STILL REMEMBERS WHERE AN EVENT WAS CREATED. So if the time zone ever changes, it will try to view the event according to the time zone you are currently in.
iCloud does the same thing. When you set your time zone on iCloud, it will view an event according to THAT time zone. If you are in Central time and create an event, your iCloud calendar better be set to Central time or else there will be a descrepancy between your phone calendar and your iCloud calendar.
I just want to turn off "time zone support" COMPLETELY.

Understanding Time Zone support in iCal

I'm travelling overseas soon and I want to enter my various appointments so they're correctly displayed in the locations where they'll take place. How do I do this? At the moment the appointments I've entered are displayed as if they're taking place here at home, so a flight that arrives at 9pm in London is shown as arriving 10 hours after that. I suppose the calendar will display correctly when I move to the relevant time zone, but the shifting times are disconcerting. Is it possible to have the appointments actually display all the time at the times I've set regardless of the time zone? In other words, for iCal to leave a 9pm flight arrival at 9pm regardless of the local time? I wonder whether my problem is that I've entered the time before entering the time zone. Maybe if I now re-enter all the various appointments while leaving the time zone correct all will be well. I'm in a conceptual black hole here.

Hello Peter Best1,
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
To learn more about time zone support with Calendar, please take a look at the article linked to below.
iCloud: Change your calendar’s time zone
Cheers,
Alex H.

TS3999 how can i synch the time zone of the icloud in my pc with my iphone?

how can i synch the time zone of the icloud in my pc with my iphone?

Hi hmm15761,
Thanks for visiting Apple Support Communities.
This article may address your question:
iCloud: Change your calendar’s time zone
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2677
Best,
Jeremy

How to fix, incorrect time zone adjustment from iCloud to iPhone Calendar?

I entered a calendar event on iCloud using my PC. The event is displayed an hour later on my iPhone. i.e (iCloud) Flight; 2:15pm --> (iPhone) Flight; 3:15pm.
The Time Zone setting is correct (Eastern Daylight Savings) on both the PC and iCloud.
I have had a similar issue when syncing calendar between Yahoo and iPhone.
Any similar experiences? Can this be fixed?
Thanks.

I re-checked the iCloud timezone settings and found that it was set to "Eastern Standard Time" not Daylight savings time. Odd. I clicked on the map again and it changed to "Eastern Time". I tried again and it seems to be working. I am assuming that the "Eastern Time" timezone adjusts automatically.
I haven't figured out the issue with Yahoo calendar yet. Any suggestions?
I also followed up with Ralph Landry1's suggestion and Time Zone support is set to off. Thanks for the heads up.
Additional threads, I viewed...
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16441455#16441455
https://discussions.apple.com/message/19246114#19246114

Why is iCal Time Zone Support hidden?

Last week my wife sent me an iCal appointment for 2pm but I received it as 11am. On checking her iPhone she found the same time, 11am. We had both been overseas recently. On our return we had reset our time zones on our iPhone's and laptops to Auto so no problem there. Obviously we were very puzzled.
I then checked the Apple support page and found a lot of people had the same problem with Mountain Lion although I'm running Mavericks.
What I did discover was that in iCal > Preferences> Advanced is hidden a button called Time Zone Support.
Why put it there? And why is it off by default?
We turned it on on my Mac Book and hers then switched it off then on again on our iPhones and low and behold the appointment times changed to 2pm on all our devices.
I don't understand why changing time and date settings or having them on Auto shouldn't adjust all native apps and hiding the setting in advanced preferences just seems ridiculous.
Maybe that's just me?

I'm not sure how putting something in the user Preferences for an app hides it, but...
And why is it off by default?
I got into an argument with someone about using time zones in Calendar. He only wanted the times to show up as local times regardless of which time zone was selected and what time zone had created the event. I think he actuall missed some appointments when travelling overseas. His assistant had set up the appointments, and when he looked at them before he left, they were listed as late in the day because he was looking at his current time zone.
So, I guess that is why it is off by default.

With Time Zone Support on Calendar no longer automatically adjust to the local timezone.

Apples support forums are riddled with Discussions about problems with being able to dicate a specific time zone for appointments. Many of these postings, as well as their corresponding solutions, are unnecessarily lenghtly when the root cause of all of this is a one very simple mistake by Apple. Right now to be able to assign a specifc timezone for an appointment using the Calendar app on the iPhone you have to have "Time Zone Support" turned on in Settings. The problem is that when you turn on this feature the Calendar app stops automatically updating the calendar to reflect the local time zone you are in. These are simply two seperate items that have no reason to be tied together. Apple could easily correct almost all of the issues people are having with this topic if it simply split this into two seperate options that users can turn on/off seprately:
1.) Enter time zone for each appointment. YES/NO
2.) Adjust Calendar to the local timezone. YES/NO
It is virturally incomprehensible that Apple has not fixed this. It was clearly a mistake.

I have this problem too and am frustrated - it's not solving no matter what i do. And now Siri is totally bonkers too on this new software update - can't even pull from my contacts when I ask her to look someone up. What the heck is going on at Apple software? Have they been hiring a bunch of arrogant, crap programmers? I am seriously thinking of not buying an iPhone again after having one for 5 years. So disappointed!!

Problem caused with appt times by changing calendar time zone support?

I've got a 30Gb iPod Touch, version 4.0.2.
I've always kept the Settings' Date & Time timezone for the correct location, but it was only a while back that I realized that there was also a Time Zone under the Settings, Calendar, and so I changed it so that it was correct (it was previously set to Kabul, AF time, and it was then changed to Ottawa, ON time).
I'm thinking that this may have messed up all my future appointments, as my appointments have been switched to midnight or somewhere near it, for the day prior to when the appointment was supposed to have been. I can't think of anything else that would be causing this, and didn't see this exact problem occurring for anyone else when I did a search of the discussions.
Does anyone have any idea as to why this is happening and what I can do to set it right?

Hi Cindiii,
Time zone support has often been a point of contention and confusion for many users. Unfortunately, there is no simple fix at the present time. Do you have any idea as to why you touch was set to Kabul? Did you buy it new? If not, perhaps the last user had it set to this time?
In any case, Calendar does allow for its own time zone settings. This is to allow the user to create events for his/her home time zone while traveling. Even if your system time zone reflects the current time zone that you are in, appointments added to Cakendar will show up in the time zine that you choose based in the time zone you set in the Calendar settings.
This definitely sets up conflicts if you are trying to schedule an appointment that is outside of your home time zone. Now that you have switched the time zone in your Calendar settings to your home time zone, there is nothing you can do about the events already created. As I see it, you have only two options:
1. Change the time zone back to Kabul time and view your events as though they were your local time, or
2. Leave the time zone in the Calendar settings to your home time zone and either time adjust the events in your head (knowing the time difference), or manually changing them to the correct time one by one.
I'm sorry this doesn't provide you with a magic solution, but I really don't see any other alternatives.
Mac

HT4576 "Time Zone Support" in Calendars should be renamed to "Override Time Zone Support"

So, I live on the East coast and notice, while on a trip just outside Cupertino, that my iPhone Calendar wasn't updating to the the local time, even though my iPhone had correctly updated to PST.
Finally, at the end of my trip, oh so nigh to Cupertino, I find out that my Calendar's erroneous display of time was due to the "Time Zone Support" configuration option.
This is a GROSS misnomer.
iOS requires the specification of a timezone - else the time would be set arbitrarily and would waste the time (NTP) service provided by the cellular provider.
Thus, the "Time Zone Support" option under "Mail, Contacts, Calendars" should be relabeled to "Override Time Zone Support" AND the ability to assign an event to a time zone should always be available (though defaulting to the current time zone - unless a 'Default Time Zone' configuration option is added).

The behavior you are seeing is actually inherent in most calendar apps -- the deal is that you are telling your calendar when something happens, not what time. Our company writes a calendaring+task management app for iPhone called Pocket Informant - we get this same question on occassion, so I wrote up a Knowledge Base article discussing some details (keep in mind - this article discusses some features specific to our app that you won't find in iCal/Calendar on MacOS X):
http://webis.kayako.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/123/0/why-do-the-times-change -on-my-appointments-when-i-travel-to-a-different-time-zone
In iCal/Calendar on MacOS X, when you turn on Time Zone support, you then get to choose the time zone that you are entering your appointment for. This helps you not have to do the "time zone math" in your head. Thus, if you are in CST and want to set up an appointment for 6pm PST, you can choose PST in the event editor as you enter 6pm. Note that while you are in CST, your event will display in your calendar at "CST time" (8pm), but when you fly out to PST, it will show the "correct" PST time.
While iCal/Calendar supports "floating time zones", I personally would caution against using them for everything (I mentioned a few reasons why in the above kbase article). Use those for events that truly are "time driven" rather than "point in time" driven (such as "I want to go jogging every morning at 5am no matter what time zone I'm in).
Hope that helps some!

Time Zone support - checked or unchecked?

I export my iCal claendar to Entourage (for the better printouts) and noticed that some appointments were showing up in the Entourage calendar 1 hour earlier than they should. When I oen up the individual event in Entourage it has the correct time, but in Entourage's daily, weekly or monthly display, it's an hour off.
So I went back to iCal, and checked Time Zone support and made sure that every event had the correct time zone. Then I exported again, and this time Entourage had EVERY event showing at the wrong time. I've looked everywhere, and I cannot find any preference or setting with the wrong time zone checked.
I've posted a note on an Entourage forum, but my question for this forum is as far as this issue is concerned, do you think I'd be better off with iCal's Time Zone Support checked or unchecked?

There's a patch you need to run for Entourage 2004. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930402/en-us?spid=1720
This requires download and install of Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac 11.3.3 Update. A link to that download is contained on the page above. Be sure you get 11.3.3, because there are other versions referenced.
G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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