APO and BW

Hi Group
We have BW 2.1 installed at the moment just for reporting purposes. We are in the process of migrating the reporting to another software. In 3 months we will fully complete the migration to the new reporting software. Thus we will not be using BW anymore.
At the same time, we are going to implement APO. I understand APO comes with BW also.
1) My question is, can we expire the existing BW and not use the BW that comes with APO?
2) I also hearing that APO needs BW engine? Is this true?
Our intention is to expire the BW completely and use the new reporting software. Also want to use APO for VMI.
Kindly advice.
Thanks
Yuva

Hi,
You get BW along with SAP SCM-APO system and cannot be separated. The SAP BW system is fully integrated in APO and can be installed on the same server. The version of BW depends on version of SCM. It can be used to store data but cannot be so performance effective for reporting. You may use the external BW system to report but not needed. You can use BW in APO system to use for all purposes such as storing history from other systems, get the data from APO and store etc. If you dont want an independent SAP BW system, you can still workout. You can store the required data in APO-BW and using reporting tools such as cognos and report on them. SAP BW has a technology named OPEN HUB that lets it send the data from cubes to other systems.
Finally:
1) My question is, can we expire the existing BW and not use the BW that comes with APO?
A: Yes you can expire your independent BW system but cannot live without APO_BW as BW in APO is not separately. You have to use BW atleast the one that comes with APO.
2) I also hearing that APO needs BW engine? Is this true?
A: Not completely true. As I said, if you don't want to report using BW, leave the independent BW system and use an external reporting tool to report in BW in APO.
In V5.0, there is more flexibility. You can load data to planning area from flat file directly bypassing BW. But if you want to avoid BW all together, you life could be miserable!
For more information see service.sap.com/scm.
Let me know if you have any questions.

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