APO - GATP

Hi,
when i am trying to reschedule from sales order to change confirmed dates which comes from APO.
this is throwing an different error and it is
no substitution for item 000010 with "rules immediately".
please help to understand why i am getting this error or information and its is backing all my changes from sales order screen.
regards,
balajia

Dear Balaji,
The reason for this message is that RBA did not find any subsitution. This is a customizing issue.
I assume you have activated the rules-based ATP check in the check instructions, but maybe no condition records were
maintained. So no rules will be executed.
e.g. When MISL is active, the flags 'rules based ATP check' and 'perform rules immediately' are automatically set in the check instructions and in this case, there has to be at least one valid substitution. If not, like in your case, you will get this warning
and the sales order item will not be confirmed.
I hope I could help you further.
Regards,
Tibor

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Hello Experts,
We are having similar case as YR, for which I'm searching for a solution. > (Putting this in a separate thread so that I can reward points)
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Following are the settings done:-
1) Integration Model for Plant.material and SO are created and activated
2 Created Integration Model for ATP check and ATP customizing
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Jaideep,
Assuming you are only using outbound queues, check for blocked or otherwise unprocessed queues. SMQ1 in ERP. SMQ1 shoould have zero entries
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Hi Dogboy,
Thanks for your response.
To make my requirement clear, let me explain it in a slightly different way - in the current GATP setup, when I create sales orders and execute availability check, if stock is not available or short then ATP looks at future incoming purchase orders and assigns incoming PO quantities to the sales order line item.
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When doing ATP check (sales order) in R/3, I am able to see only availability screen of R/3 and not APO ATP screen. In other words ATP check is performed in R/3 and not in APO (GATP).
Simulation ATP check in APO works fine.
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Hi Madhu,
There can be multiple reasons why it does not go to APO.
Two of the most common overlooked points are:
1. ATP tick in integration model.
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Can anybody please tell me how scheduling works for the following dates in sales orders for materials planned in gATP.
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My understanding is that gATP gives the MAD date and other remaining dates like transportation planning date, unload date etc are calculated using master data in the calling system eg ECC.
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Amit,
We are facing an issue in our system where if a material is planned in ECC, it has all dates in the sales order calculated as expected based on ECC master data.
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The system where the parts are planned is irrelevant. The important issue is the system where the ATP is conducted.
My understanding is that gATP gives the MAD date and other remaining dates like transportation planning date, unload date etc are calculated using master data in the calling system e.g. ECC.
I have never seen that statement validated in any SAP documentation.
From online help:
SAP R/3 uses the order type to determine whether shipment scheduling or transportation scheduling should be executed.
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Read up on it here
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/05/f8923945b12c4de10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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