Apogee Ensemble Digital I/O Setup

I just got an Apogee ensemble. I am running GigaStudio on a PC sending Optical from the PC to the Apogee Ensemble optical port. I have tried every configuration and still can't get any sound into Logic 8. Does anyone run a similar configuration? And if so, can you PLEASE HELP me?
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I am having a problem with this same idea and need information please. I tried to email you but it won't let me. Please try to email me so hopefully you can help me with this.
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How do you Control SPDIF input levels in Logic Pro using Apogee Ensemble

Hello,
Question. I have an Apogee Ensemble audio interface hooked up to my Macbook Pro. I have a Motif XS8 that I record audio from through SPDIF.
I am able to get sound through to my audio track once setting the inputs in Logic, however the levels are not even close to halfway. I can not figure out how to fix adjust the SPDIF level to make it hotter b/c I know once I add virtual tracks and vocals through my preamp, the audio from my motif will likely not be hearable.
Please let me know.
Also, when I record an audio track is says about 15 minutes remaining to record. Does that mean I have 15 mins of audio for each track or for all my recording period???

Not owning an Apogee Ensemble, maybe someone else who does has more definitive info can jump in, but do not confuse the lower level of the SPDIF input with "lesser quality". It's a digital connection, with no analog conversion.
-18 dBFS on a digital scale is the same as 0dB on an analog scale.
I think what you're experiencing, is the fact that so many people think they need to get the meters in Logic closer to 0dB, which is actually NOT what you want (when staying ITB). This thinking is left over from the days of analogue recording, or the early days of 16 bit digital recording.
Turn your other sources in Logic down, and you'll reap the benefits of not overloading the 2 buss, allowing the plug-ins to do their computations without distorting, etc... Then you can bring the over all level of your mix back up, in mastering.
If the Motif is considerably lower in volume than that, you could always insert a gainer plug-in on the audio track.
As to the 15 minutes, that is what Logic has pre-allocated for recording to your hard drive. It "re-sets" each time you go into record, so it's not saying "you only have 15 minutes of record time available". It's saying, "you have 15 minutes of hard disk space allocated each time you go into record, based on your sample rate and bit depth settings". This can be changed in the Audio pathway, but it's recommended to leave this number as low as possible/necessary, to avoid disk fragmentation.

Apogee ensemble and logic studio

I got a new apple desktop pro quad 2.66 and Logic Studio.
I have been using a Motu 828mk11 and logic 7 pro.
I was considering using the Apogee Ensemble and was wondering if anyone using Studio has any luck with Ensemble and if they think the switch would be worth the investment.
I also Use an API A2D preamp with the digital outs.....any news on how that might work with Ensemble?
anyway, just a note, if anyone cares, the UAD Nevana X2 works really tightly with Logic Studio and its WORTH the purchase price. amazing.

Respiro wrote:
saved through it as wavs?
If you use outboard gear for mix and processing i.e you route out your Software Instruments thru some of the Apogee outputs (analog/optical or digital), process them using some external analog or DSP processors and route back the processed sound to the Apogee Inputs ( i.e Logic Mix track ), then the mix may be different, rather than the Logic native Bounce.
If you use Logic bounce, then Apogee is just a monitoring device as was mentioned before. I agree if you have several devices and play same (previously) bounced Logic audio file thru the different devices they may sound different - this the test the audio engineers make in the laboratories.
Personally I own several devices and I prefer to use one for final mix monitoring (which is most "true" not "sweet or pumped"), some for recording, other for internal DSP processing, depends on the situation...
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How do I get 5.1 optical out (DVD Player) into Apogee Ensemble?

This should be the simplest thing to do.
I've set the DVD Player prefs to Digital Audio out.
Plugged an optical cable from the out of the Mac Pro to the in of the Apogee Ensemble.
Opened Audio and Midi prefs and tried various logical settings. Opened Maestro and done the same there. Tried changing the clock to optical - nothing (but flashing light on Apogee).
It works fine in stereo through the Apogee connected just by firewire, but it's not what I had in mind...
Any help from someone who knows the Ensemble would be gratefully received.

Cig is right, I'm not seeing anything about your device that states it's 5.1 or DTS certified... also, if you are trying to use a commercial DVD, then you might also be running into DRM issues...
I think you are still leaving out part of your workflow here. I'm Understanding this: DVD Movie > DVD player.app > Digital Optical Audio > Apogee Ensemble > to what????
It should be: Stand alone DVD player > Digital Audio > Mac Pro > Sound App.
Yes, you can output with the Ensemble, but to what? this is meant more as a device to input audio, not to act as a reciever.
contact Apogee for confirmation on this if you like. there are other ways to playback the audio or inport the audio, so long as you own the copyrights, of course

LOGIC PRO WITH APOGEE ENSEMBLE + SYNTHS I/O

Im upgrading my studio and planning to buy an apogee ensemble for logic, an access virus, a moog lp and possibly a couple of outboard compressors. If anyone has a similar setup (i.e. ensemble with a few synths) could you give me a bit of info on the I/O setup?
The ensemble has 4 mic inputs, 4 1/4” jack inputs and 8 1/4” jack outputs. Firstly, are the mic and line inputs separate? (if I have a mic connected to mic input 1, can I connect the moog to line input 1 and record simultaneously?)
The virus has 6 outputs, I haven’t researched this much put I presume I could have, let’s say 2 or 3 different sequenced stereo parts at the same time? In this case, I was thinking the I/O setup would be like the following:
Access virus > ensemble Mic inputs 1-4 (2 stereo patches using balanced 1/4” jack to XLR cables)
Moog lp> ensemble Line input 1 (is this possible when Mic input 1 is used by the virus?)
Ensemble output 1-2 > Monitors
Ensemble output 3-4 > virus inputs 1-2
Ensemble output 5 > moog input
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Does anyone have a similar setup to this? If this configuration works I’ll def go ahead with it, but my only concern is that there’s barely any room for more options! I could have 3 mono outboard processors to be used as inserts for I/O 6,7 and 8 but if I want to purchase another synth I’ll have to get another ensemble! Is there a better/more efficient way to run this setup or should I get something other than the ensemble?
All comments appreciated, thanks!

Ensemle have 18 inputs, just 8 of them are analog. If you need more, you must use additional convertors with Adat outputs.

Spdif through an apogee ensemble

has anyone got a coupla clues for me re sending an spdif stereo mix into logic via an apogee ensemble? (source: a dat machine)
cheers
byz

byzantine wrote:
has anyone got a coupla clues for me re sending an spdif stereo mix into logic via an apogee ensemble? (source: a dat machine)
cheers
byz
The DAT machine will be the Master clock so you need to tell the Ensemble to lock to external sync via s/pdif.
Don't have an ensemble but the digital pair of inputs should show up somewhere down the line, 7-8 , 9-10...etc.
Set up the clock and play the DAT, open the Environment audio mixer and check to see what inputs are active.
pancenter-

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They said we have no latency with protool HD because the card are done to send the audio signal right to the software. My question is: the apogee ensemble do the same or not because we have no driver for it, so the latency is like a protool HD not like the Le version with a buffer at 128 or 64.

I have a Metric Halo 2882 +DSP, and it is wonderful in this application.
Prior to getting my MH, I split my signals coming out of my preamps to an analog mixer.
Actually, I still use an analog mixer now, I just use the Metric Halo internal mixer to group which outputs go to which channels on my analog board.
I love the setup.
The MH mixer (and recording) application is great.
I can use the MH DSP plug ins with so little latency as to be negligible for performers.
I highly recommend checking Metric Halo out, as if that weren't obvious!
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Spectrum digital DSK5416 driver setup gives an error when test wizard is run.

Please help us with the following problem we are facing:
1.   Spectrum digital DSK5416 driver setup gives an
error when test wizard is run. A snap shot of the same has been
attached.
2.   The A/D module doesn’t pickup microphone signal or
an audio sample for loopback but the implementation of the same works
fine in CCS environment. (We are using Mic In and Speaker Out lines)
3.   When a real-time application has run successfully
and if you close the VAB environment the application starts running
automatically until you reset the board.
4.   We don’t find the flash program button enabled, so
that any real-time program can be burned into flash and demonstrate the
embedded feature.
Note:
We are using Windows Xp professional edition.
Program is developed using DSK5416

Hello, I have included some information that will help address your questions: (1) I couldn't see the attached image file (contained errors). The RIDE/VAB DSK5416 Driver makes use of a JTAG communication when reading/writing memory on the DSK5416 hardware. You will need to make sure that the JTAG transfer option has been selected in the Driver Setup dialog box. The memory test process may seem to take a long time due to the amount of memory being accessed. (2) The VAB RTDSKAD block component provides a one-channel A/D input that makes use of the line-in channel on the DSK5416 hardware. (3) VAB does not remove the downloaded DSP executable program from DSK5416 memory, and it does remain resident. That being said, I wouldn't expect that the program would begin execution when VAB is closed. I would recommend that you verify that the DSP program stopped properly upon selecting the VAB Stop command. Then, close VAB as normal. (4) The RIDE/VAB driver for the DSK5416 does not support programming of flash memory on the DSK5416 hardware. Regards, Steve

Apogee Ensemble dropouts while opening applications

I have a strange problem with my apogee ensemble.
whenever I open an applicaion or change the volume with the volume-keys, the playback stutters. it sounds like a mini dropout with crackle. happens in logic too and affects recordings.
its extremely annoying and only happening on a mac pro 2,66 Ghz
On my g4 powerbook the interface runs flawlessly (and in both cases the interface sounds amazing!)
anyone else with a mac pro and stuttering ensemble?
MacPro 2,66Ghz, PowerBook G4 12.1'' 1,5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I hope this is Mattias Millhoff (there could be only one, as far as I am concern) that I know. I am not quite sure why your interface is giving you problems (could it be the driver issue?) but I am sure glad to see your name and know that you are still in the music world. I am not trying to hijack this thread, and I sincerely apologize if it appears that way. I just could not resist.
Best wishes,
H.

Apogee ensemble firewire and thunderbolt

Does Apogee Ensemble firewire is compatible ith new mac pro 2014?

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I have an apogee ensemble that I am using with Logic that was working fine 2 days ago but now it is seeing the apogee but giving me a conflict era and I can't get sound through my mixing board. What could be causing it, I haven't changed any settings

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PLEASE HELP! Logic 8 w/ Apogee Ensemble & MOTU 8pre

Hello everyone!
This is my first post…I've been tracking this forum for a while and I must say you guys are all informative and generous. So, I hope I can have some generosity FLUNG my way!
Ok, I have:
*Logic 8 running on my MacBook Pro (2.2GHz , 250GB HD, 4GB RAM).
AYAK, Mac Book Pros have 1 Firewire 800 & 1 Firewire 400 input; I also have a Firewire PCI card plugged in which gives me 2 more FW in's.
*A MOTU 8pre running into my FW CARD with my LaCie HD running into the FW800.
I just recently bought an Apogee Ensemble…. WOW! Are the pres nice! And a FINE integration with Logic, ie the control panel n such! The pres are NEARLY as nice as my Millennia and that's saying a lot! Plus, if I run my Ridge Farm Gas Cookers or my LA-610 into the last 4 inputs, I get a GREAT variety of sounds and controllability.
WELL, the Ensemble is like a HOT girl friend that makes your toes curl but THEN, you find out she's a PSYCHO…but you don't wanna dump her cuz she's just so freakin hot and does things to you that…..c'mon I know we've ALL been there!…..with the girl AND the gear!
So, why PYSCHO? I just bought my unit this past August 22, 2008 (3 daze, I mean DAYS ago) from GC in Hollywood. I figured or ASSUMED it was a CURRENT version without all the BETA issues we've all read about! Well here are the issues:
1.) The MacBook Pro/LOGIC has lost sync (went offline) with it a couple of time and I had to reboot. The Apogee Audio Control Panel has become MOLASSES SLOW…leaving to have to reboot……Are the above DRIVER issues? How do I fix em?
2.) At START UP, I MUST have the Ensemble turned OFF and THEN, once booted up turn on the Ensemble for it to be recognized…now is this NORMAL for a Mac or is this an Ensemble trait? OR is it ANOTHER problem with the Ensemble? (OBTW, I'm a NEW Mac user woo hoo!)……..my MOTU 8pre would always have to be turned on BEFORE I booted up for it to be recognized and used in Logic….this is NOT the case for the Ensemble. I'd like to keep my MOTU 8pre….it's a pretty good interface and served me well as my first interface, as well as having more than decent pres!
3.) Last issue; when I hook BOTH the Ensemble and 8pre to my MBP (via FW of course), LOGIC will NOT recognize the 8pre. I can't even find it as an audio option. I'd like to be able to use BOTH of these and be able to record 16 channels at once…I've tried hooking these up MANY different ways…
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's FW and vice versa
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's LIGHT PIPE
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP and the 8pre hooked up to FW PCI Card port of MBP.
The above didn't seem to work… Can I indeed connect the 8pre AND Ensemble to my MBP and use them TOGETHER????
Now I am a NEWBIE to Mac AND Logic, BUT I ain't no FRESH OFF THE IDIOT TRAIN NEW…I work in computer recording frequently so please don't assume I'm a newbie NOT doing research. This is REAL WORLD TROUBLE HERE!
Also, if you think this is a case of RTFMJ (Read The F**** Manual Jacka$$), then you have NO IDEA what kind of manual comes WITH the Ensemble! Yeah, for those of you that know, the manual is a JOKE and doesn't really address much!
So, please help my fellow Logiceers!! Should I dump the girl and get another 8pre (which I KNOW I can daisy chain together)…remember, this girl is SO HOT….I love this Ensemble, but for $2,000, it shouldn't have THIS many issues! For 2K I get another MOTU 8pre, $500, another HD, $700 (a good Glyph 1TB always comes in handy…hey who doesn’t need another HD sitting around??), and maybe $800 of plug ins! Or shoot, I'll PAY SOME BILLS! So, any clues? Tips?

Here's the skinny.....
1) SOUND: Yummy! The best of the gear that I've come from (started 2002 with Roland 1880 & 2480 with Ridge Farm Gas Cookers & Boilers, True System P-Solo, Millennia HV-3, & UA LA610.) Yes, the pre's on the Ensemble are great. Not grungy like my Gas Cookers or even sweetly clean like my Millennia or True.....a nice middle ground. And the Soft Limit is great....the converters (inputs 5-8) going through my pres are sensational! Headphones have finally cleared up! Hmmmm, as have my monitors! Yes I'm going from Roland to Logic 8. It's a world of diff, even though I whole heartedly respect and love the 1880/2480's.......
2) LATENCY: Yeah Firewire vs Roland's format....well..... unless I REALLY cap my headphones tight, it sounds like I have a 5 millisec delay. I can live with it and compensate.... I'm new to Logic; is there a setting I can change whilst tracking? I don't use plugs while tracking..... I use the 8 X 8 mode to go at a HIGHER samp rate! Oh wow! NICE! And clear as a whistle! I don't get to use the Headphone outs at this rate, instead a TRS to 2X 1/4" break out from the Analog 1 & 2 OUTS....very nice! But, anyhoot Roland does win for Latency. Never any with my Rolands.
3) MAESTRO: Pretty well laid out and user friendly. UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS FOR LOGIC AND ENSEMBLE!!!! DO IT NOW!
4) DRIVERS: see above.
5) SUPPORT: Roland always sucked (wow, I didn't try to make this a Roland comp, just wanted to let you all know where I was coming from), Apogee....well..... 3 voicemails and 2 emails later, and no response on daisy chaining MORE THAN ONE Ensemble (which was one of the advertised selling points) OR using my aforementioned MOTU 8pre WITH the Ensemble via Lightpipe.... The Ensemble CAN NOT, repeat CAN NOT be used with ANYTHING ELSE! I've tried......
With the Ensemble you are STUCK with 8 I/O's.... PERIOD. Now, this isn't necessarily a BAD thing. It's the BEST, I repeat, BEST 8 channeler out there! But, again, with for a Firewire Interface, it is the best, but you're stuck with ONLY 8 inputs until you upgrade to Symphony.
In my case, a Symphony Mobile card (which is what I'd need, since I work through a Mac Book Pro), with an AD16X, DA16X & TWO X-Symphony cards (one for the AD16X & one for DA16X). So that would be a 16 in & 16 out with NO latency and, of course I would need 8 more preamps..... so to best the Ensemble ($2,000), I'd need the above Symphony System ($525, $3,000, $3,000, $175, $175, respectively, plus $4,000 of GOOD pres= $11,000ish)
So, a $2,000 BEST IN CLASS FIRWIRE interface that CAN'T be used with anything else but it's own 8 ins of joy, or $11,000 top of the line kick *** Symphony. I guess I'll keep my Ensemble. I RARELY do more than 8 tracks at once these days. Even for drums...c'mon...if you can't make drums sound kick *** with a KICK, SNARE, HI-HAT, OVERHEAD L & R, TOM, TOM & TOM/SNARE BOTTOM, you need to get a drum machine!
PLUS, the Ensemble will always be great for a quick interface on the go....shoot... a quickee recording gig with my only bringing my MacBook Pro (with CASE of course), a Rackmount (with my rackmounted gear as follows: Power Conitioner, Ensemble, Millennia, LA610, headphone amp, midi/usb interface & Glyphs) a Dolly, some mic stands, Mics, & a plug snake & cables..... that's a pretty darn good to-go menu! Shoot, how many ON LOCATION gigs have we done where this set up coulda been used! (Christmas CD's, choirs, Jazz Pianist, Voice overs).....let's just hope your client doesn't need NINE tracks recorded at once! yes, still bugged about that APOGEE!!!!!!
So there ya have it as far as my experience goes. I'll keep reporting back when I have more tastes of this 8 TRICK PONY ..... but what a pony it is!
OBTW, looks like I'll be SELLING my MOTU 8pre since I can't use it with my Ensemble!
Stay tuned.....

Musical Logic Pro Task Bar with Apogee Ensemble

1.)Since I installed the Apogee Ensemble unit, a musical note sounds when I start up my MAC, when I press the Start or Stop button in Logic Studio, etc. What option do I need to reset to turn this off?
2.) When I use Input 1 on my Emagic AMT Midi interface unit and press any key on the external MIDI keyboard, the screen starts flashing until I select the close song option. What feature is causing this, and how can I turn it off?
Thank you

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I've read raving reviews about the Ensemble--one of which describes it as being a huge improvement over a MOTU 828mkII, which I happen to have. At the same time, I've seen some posts in this forum about the issues the Ensemble has with Logic 8. I couldn't find, or understand, what those issues are.
Can someone explain to me what problems I might encounter if I get an Apogee Ensemble? I'd much appreciate it.

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Logic 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble

Has anyone had any issues with updating to 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble interface?

Yes. I have just gone through two Apogee Ensembles and unfortunately I don't think they like Mountain Lion very much. I wish I could get a refund, but I went through 6 MONTHS of tech support before getting this replacement unit and it's still having issues on my two computers running ML.
The issue on both my computers is that Maestro 2 often will not recognize the Ensemble is connected. You have to turn it off and on and then restart the computer before it recognizes. As well, sound will sporadically drop out and the Ensemble needs to be restarted. Also, the Ensemble has on occasion crashed and holding down the power button for several seconds is the only way to get it to turn off and on again.
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