Apogee ensemble firewire and thunderbolt

Does Apogee Ensemble firewire is compatible ith new mac pro 2014?

Yes but you will need an adopter like the following to get FireWire on the Mac
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r

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Daisy Chaining Firewire And Thunderbolt

I have a 2009 iMac and a couple of G Tech external drives linked via Firewire 800. Runs FCPX okay if slow on "export/share". I'm about to buy a MBP retina 13 inch, I need the portability, but wish to keep using the iMac as the main editing machine.
I'd use an external drive with the Retina, Thunderbolt/USB 3.0 seems the optimum choice. My question concerns using "material" stored on the Tbolt/USB external drive for use with FCPX on the iMac via the G Tech Firewire external drive.
Can I simply connect the iMac to the GTech drive via the single Firewire port, and connect the Tbolt/USB to the Gtech drive via the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter, and thus transfer files (or even FCPX projects) from the new drive to the old drive?
Ron

Yes. Depending on the drive enclosure you may need to power the TBolt drive as it may no longer be bus-powered. My LaCie Rugged drives are bus-powered through the adapter cable. My OWC drives are not.

Am transferring from 2008 17" MacBookPro to new 15" MBP via firewire and thunderbolt.....

but am having a terrible time transferring photos in iPhoto, especially albums. Any suggestions? Manuals of no help.
Had no way to drag albums over to new computer. Had no way really to drag iPhoto over to new computer. When I initially went to the Genius Bar, they were not fans of Migration Assistant. I had tried this initially and had a terrible time trying to get this to work, so worked on trying to connect the two with cables and the Firewire/Thunderbolt combo was what I came up with since Ethernet was not a possibility with no Ethernet port on the new MBP.
Thanks for your help.

To use a FW400 drive you will need a converter cable. You may find one at a local electronics outlet. If the drive supports USB and you have an appropriate cable you could use the drive in USB mode.
Otherwise you could connect both computers to your home network and transfer data that way using File Sharing - select Mac Help from the Finder's Help menu and search for "file sharing." If you have an Ethernet cable you can connect the two directly by Ethernet cable and create a computer-to-computer network (could also do the same wirelessly.)

I need to connect my old Mac book pro to the new one to transfer files. The old one doesn't have Thunderbolt 2 and the new one doesn't have Firewire 800. Will the Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter or Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter work?

I want to transfer data from my old Mac book pro to my new one using migrate. The old computer doesn't have Thunderbolt 2 and the new one doesn't have Firewire 800. Does the Thunderbolt to Firewire or the Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter work to connect them and transfer data?
Thank you!

Yes, use a Firewire cable and the FW to Tbolt adaptor.

I have an apogee ensemble that I am using with Logic that was working fine 2 days ago but now it is seeing the apogee but giving me a conflict era and I can't get sound through my mixing board. What could be causing it, I haven't changed any settings

I have an apogee ensemble that I am using with Logic that was working fine 2 days ago but now it is seeing the apogee but giving me a conflict era and I can't get sound through my mixing board. What could be causing it, I haven't changed any settings

OK, but in my ipad, the apple id i have in itues is already the one iwant to have, but th one i used to sin in for i-coud is the other one. Any tip as to how to change the apple id for icloud and any idea how to know what apps i bought with the other apple id so as to delete them from my ipad to avoid being asked to enter another apple id every time they get updated? thanks!

Apogee ensemble and logic studio

I got a new apple desktop pro quad 2.66 and Logic Studio.
I have been using a Motu 828mk11 and logic 7 pro.
I was considering using the Apogee Ensemble and was wondering if anyone using Studio has any luck with Ensemble and if they think the switch would be worth the investment.
I also Use an API A2D preamp with the digital outs.....any news on how that might work with Ensemble?
anyway, just a note, if anyone cares, the UAD Nevana X2 works really tightly with Logic Studio and its WORTH the purchase price. amazing.

Respiro wrote:
saved through it as wavs?
If you use outboard gear for mix and processing i.e you route out your Software Instruments thru some of the Apogee outputs (analog/optical or digital), process them using some external analog or DSP processors and route back the processed sound to the Apogee Inputs ( i.e Logic Mix track ), then the mix may be different, rather than the Logic native Bounce.
If you use Logic bounce, then Apogee is just a monitoring device as was mentioned before. I agree if you have several devices and play same (previously) bounced Logic audio file thru the different devices they may sound different - this the test the audio engineers make in the laboratories.
Personally I own several devices and I prefer to use one for final mix monitoring (which is most "true" not "sweet or pumped"), some for recording, other for internal DSP processing, depends on the situation...
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Any word on a firewire to thunderbolt cable? Got a new MacBook Pro and can't do any work on it til I can get to my data that's stored on my firewire-accessible external hard drive!

Any word on a firewire to thunderbolt cable? Got a new MacBook Pro and no way to access my data because my data is stored on an external hard drive accessible only by firewire!

This is really starting to be annoying. Apple said this adapter would be available in July.
Of course we could always buy the Thunderbolt Display. For $999. Complete with USB 2 ports. That's not why we bought your MBP-Retina, Guys. We expected connectivity -- high speed connectivity -- as you promised.
I also had an Apple store rep tell me that the adapter would be availble in September. Hate to say it but it feels like Apple is resorting to selling vaporware. It's a page out of the Bill Gates play book.

Logic 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble

Has anyone had any issues with updating to 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble interface?

Yes. I have just gone through two Apogee Ensembles and unfortunately I don't think they like Mountain Lion very much. I wish I could get a refund, but I went through 6 MONTHS of tech support before getting this replacement unit and it's still having issues on my two computers running ML.
The issue on both my computers is that Maestro 2 often will not recognize the Ensemble is connected. You have to turn it off and on and then restart the computer before it recognizes. As well, sound will sporadically drop out and the Ensemble needs to be restarted. Also, the Ensemble has on occasion crashed and holding down the power button for several seconds is the only way to get it to turn off and on again.
BIG headache.

Logic 9.1 and Apogee Ensemble. Are they working at 64 bit?

I have to take a new interface cause my Digi002 (Digi Core Audio) doesnt' work 64 bit. I was thinking about Apogee Ensemble. But I want to be sure I can work 64 bit. Is there anyone who's using L9.1 and Ensemble 64 bit without problems?

Hi,
1. All 64 bit plug-ins run 64 bit and haven't RAM limit anymore? And do they continue to use Logic internal RAM? (even without limits?) Or do they use external RAM in regard of Logic?
Yes, the app and all 64-bit plugins will be able to use all the memory that is available.
2. All 32 bit plug-ins run 32 bit and continue to have RAM limit?
All 32-bit plugins are running in a separate application, the 32-bit AU bridge. This bridge and the mentioned plugins together are limited "the old way".
Best,
21th Century

Can I use a firewire to thunderbolt cable and Migration Assistant to transfer files from an eMac to the soon ( I hope ) to be released iMac?

Can I use a firewire to thunderbolt cable and Migration Assistant to transfer files from an eMac to the soon ( I hope ) to be released iMac?

Agrred, if the eMac is in Target mode.

Apogee Duet FireWire skipping/stuttering audio

I've bought Apogee Duet FireWire back in 2011 when I had another macbook pro and I believe it was OS X Lion powered. The problem started since I updated to Mountain Lion and next upgrades were the same. There was a time when it was not very clean if the drivers at the official apogee's site are fresh enough. But now I have OS X Yosemite and fresh drivers that claim to be for this system. As to hardware, since Apogee had only FW400 wire, later I bought FW800 wire, and then FW800<->ThunderBolt adapter. So now I use this connection: Duet -> FW400/FW800 wire -> FW800/ThunderBolt adaptor -> MacBook Pro. The audio is working normal in 80% of time, but otherwise there are stutterings of the sound. Is there a way to get rid of this problem? Thank you.
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I just started having problems with my Duet this afternoon and found this thread so I thought I'd give a shout out to you guys to see if you have any ideas before talking with the company....
I've had my Apogee Duet since about feb and never had any problems until this afternoon. For some reason the Duet doesn't seem to want to interface with my computer at all anymore. When plugged in, the lights light up on the Duet however under system profiler I get the "unable to list firewire devices" error msg. Under the Sound tab in preferences, the Duet is not listed as an available I/O. In the Apple Midi Setup or whatever it's called in utilities, the icon for the Duet is still there but it doesn't show it as online. I can still press the big button and the little green light cycles through input 1/input 2 yada yada yada, but the computer doesn't seem to see it. When I open up Maestro, both the control and mixer screens are completely blank. I've tried resetting the unit (holding button down for 5 seconds), using different firewire cords, and finally uninstalling and reinstalling the Maestro software (using the Duet software - May 2008 link on apogees site) and none of these things solve the problem. I haven't had a chance to plug in another FW400 device into my Macbook Pro to see if it's a problem with the port, but I get the same result with the Duet on my MBP and my G5 PPC tower, which leads me to believe it's a problem with the unit. Also, since it's bus-powered, the lights wouldn't light up if the ports on the computer were fried, right?? Has this happened to anyone else?? Any ideas on how to fix it before calling up Apogee?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

PLEASE HELP! Logic 8 w/ Apogee Ensemble & MOTU 8pre

Hello everyone!
This is my first post…I've been tracking this forum for a while and I must say you guys are all informative and generous. So, I hope I can have some generosity FLUNG my way!
Ok, I have:
*Logic 8 running on my MacBook Pro (2.2GHz , 250GB HD, 4GB RAM).
AYAK, Mac Book Pros have 1 Firewire 800 & 1 Firewire 400 input; I also have a Firewire PCI card plugged in which gives me 2 more FW in's.
*A MOTU 8pre running into my FW CARD with my LaCie HD running into the FW800.
I just recently bought an Apogee Ensemble…. WOW! Are the pres nice! And a FINE integration with Logic, ie the control panel n such! The pres are NEARLY as nice as my Millennia and that's saying a lot! Plus, if I run my Ridge Farm Gas Cookers or my LA-610 into the last 4 inputs, I get a GREAT variety of sounds and controllability.
WELL, the Ensemble is like a HOT girl friend that makes your toes curl but THEN, you find out she's a PSYCHO…but you don't wanna dump her cuz she's just so freakin hot and does things to you that…..c'mon I know we've ALL been there!…..with the girl AND the gear!
So, why PYSCHO? I just bought my unit this past August 22, 2008 (3 daze, I mean DAYS ago) from GC in Hollywood. I figured or ASSUMED it was a CURRENT version without all the BETA issues we've all read about! Well here are the issues:
1.) The MacBook Pro/LOGIC has lost sync (went offline) with it a couple of time and I had to reboot. The Apogee Audio Control Panel has become MOLASSES SLOW…leaving to have to reboot……Are the above DRIVER issues? How do I fix em?
2.) At START UP, I MUST have the Ensemble turned OFF and THEN, once booted up turn on the Ensemble for it to be recognized…now is this NORMAL for a Mac or is this an Ensemble trait? OR is it ANOTHER problem with the Ensemble? (OBTW, I'm a NEW Mac user woo hoo!)……..my MOTU 8pre would always have to be turned on BEFORE I booted up for it to be recognized and used in Logic….this is NOT the case for the Ensemble. I'd like to keep my MOTU 8pre….it's a pretty good interface and served me well as my first interface, as well as having more than decent pres!
3.) Last issue; when I hook BOTH the Ensemble and 8pre to my MBP (via FW of course), LOGIC will NOT recognize the 8pre. I can't even find it as an audio option. I'd like to be able to use BOTH of these and be able to record 16 channels at once…I've tried hooking these up MANY different ways…
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's FW and vice versa
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's LIGHT PIPE
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP and the 8pre hooked up to FW PCI Card port of MBP.
The above didn't seem to work… Can I indeed connect the 8pre AND Ensemble to my MBP and use them TOGETHER????
Now I am a NEWBIE to Mac AND Logic, BUT I ain't no FRESH OFF THE IDIOT TRAIN NEW…I work in computer recording frequently so please don't assume I'm a newbie NOT doing research. This is REAL WORLD TROUBLE HERE!
Also, if you think this is a case of RTFMJ (Read The F**** Manual Jacka$$), then you have NO IDEA what kind of manual comes WITH the Ensemble! Yeah, for those of you that know, the manual is a JOKE and doesn't really address much!
So, please help my fellow Logiceers!! Should I dump the girl and get another 8pre (which I KNOW I can daisy chain together)…remember, this girl is SO HOT….I love this Ensemble, but for $2,000, it shouldn't have THIS many issues! For 2K I get another MOTU 8pre, $500, another HD, $700 (a good Glyph 1TB always comes in handy…hey who doesn’t need another HD sitting around??), and maybe $800 of plug ins! Or shoot, I'll PAY SOME BILLS! So, any clues? Tips?

Here's the skinny.....
1) SOUND: Yummy! The best of the gear that I've come from (started 2002 with Roland 1880 & 2480 with Ridge Farm Gas Cookers & Boilers, True System P-Solo, Millennia HV-3, & UA LA610.) Yes, the pre's on the Ensemble are great. Not grungy like my Gas Cookers or even sweetly clean like my Millennia or True.....a nice middle ground. And the Soft Limit is great....the converters (inputs 5-8) going through my pres are sensational! Headphones have finally cleared up! Hmmmm, as have my monitors! Yes I'm going from Roland to Logic 8. It's a world of diff, even though I whole heartedly respect and love the 1880/2480's.......
2) LATENCY: Yeah Firewire vs Roland's format....well..... unless I REALLY cap my headphones tight, it sounds like I have a 5 millisec delay. I can live with it and compensate.... I'm new to Logic; is there a setting I can change whilst tracking? I don't use plugs while tracking..... I use the 8 X 8 mode to go at a HIGHER samp rate! Oh wow! NICE! And clear as a whistle! I don't get to use the Headphone outs at this rate, instead a TRS to 2X 1/4" break out from the Analog 1 & 2 OUTS....very nice! But, anyhoot Roland does win for Latency. Never any with my Rolands.
3) MAESTRO: Pretty well laid out and user friendly. UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS FOR LOGIC AND ENSEMBLE!!!! DO IT NOW!
4) DRIVERS: see above.
5) SUPPORT: Roland always sucked (wow, I didn't try to make this a Roland comp, just wanted to let you all know where I was coming from), Apogee....well..... 3 voicemails and 2 emails later, and no response on daisy chaining MORE THAN ONE Ensemble (which was one of the advertised selling points) OR using my aforementioned MOTU 8pre WITH the Ensemble via Lightpipe.... The Ensemble CAN NOT, repeat CAN NOT be used with ANYTHING ELSE! I've tried......
With the Ensemble you are STUCK with 8 I/O's.... PERIOD. Now, this isn't necessarily a BAD thing. It's the BEST, I repeat, BEST 8 channeler out there! But, again, with for a Firewire Interface, it is the best, but you're stuck with ONLY 8 inputs until you upgrade to Symphony.
In my case, a Symphony Mobile card (which is what I'd need, since I work through a Mac Book Pro), with an AD16X, DA16X & TWO X-Symphony cards (one for the AD16X & one for DA16X). So that would be a 16 in & 16 out with NO latency and, of course I would need 8 more preamps..... so to best the Ensemble ($2,000), I'd need the above Symphony System ($525, $3,000, $3,000, $175, $175, respectively, plus $4,000 of GOOD pres= $11,000ish)
So, a $2,000 BEST IN CLASS FIRWIRE interface that CAN'T be used with anything else but it's own 8 ins of joy, or $11,000 top of the line kick *** Symphony. I guess I'll keep my Ensemble. I RARELY do more than 8 tracks at once these days. Even for drums...c'mon...if you can't make drums sound kick *** with a KICK, SNARE, HI-HAT, OVERHEAD L & R, TOM, TOM & TOM/SNARE BOTTOM, you need to get a drum machine!
PLUS, the Ensemble will always be great for a quick interface on the go....shoot... a quickee recording gig with my only bringing my MacBook Pro (with CASE of course), a Rackmount (with my rackmounted gear as follows: Power Conitioner, Ensemble, Millennia, LA610, headphone amp, midi/usb interface & Glyphs) a Dolly, some mic stands, Mics, & a plug snake & cables..... that's a pretty darn good to-go menu! Shoot, how many ON LOCATION gigs have we done where this set up coulda been used! (Christmas CD's, choirs, Jazz Pianist, Voice overs).....let's just hope your client doesn't need NINE tracks recorded at once! yes, still bugged about that APOGEE!!!!!!
So there ya have it as far as my experience goes. I'll keep reporting back when I have more tastes of this 8 TRICK PONY ..... but what a pony it is!
OBTW, looks like I'll be SELLING my MOTU 8pre since I can't use it with my Ensemble!
Stay tuned.....

How do I get 5.1 optical out (DVD Player) into Apogee Ensemble?

This should be the simplest thing to do.
I've set the DVD Player prefs to Digital Audio out.
Plugged an optical cable from the out of the Mac Pro to the in of the Apogee Ensemble.
Opened Audio and Midi prefs and tried various logical settings. Opened Maestro and done the same there. Tried changing the clock to optical - nothing (but flashing light on Apogee).
It works fine in stereo through the Apogee connected just by firewire, but it's not what I had in mind...
Any help from someone who knows the Ensemble would be gratefully received.

Cig is right, I'm not seeing anything about your device that states it's 5.1 or DTS certified... also, if you are trying to use a commercial DVD, then you might also be running into DRM issues...
I think you are still leaving out part of your workflow here. I'm Understanding this: DVD Movie > DVD player.app > Digital Optical Audio > Apogee Ensemble > to what????
It should be: Stand alone DVD player > Digital Audio > Mac Pro > Sound App.
Yes, you can output with the Ensemble, but to what? this is meant more as a device to input audio, not to act as a reciever.
contact Apogee for confirmation on this if you like. there are other ways to playback the audio or inport the audio, so long as you own the copyrights, of course

Ensemble firewire vs 2408 PCIe?

In the interest of streamlining my studio and making possible improvements, I'm thinking of jettisoning my analog mic pre's, Coleman monitor box, and swapping my MOTU 2408 Mark III for an Apogee Ensemble. I'm confidant that I will be satisfied with the mic pre's in the Ensemble, and that the converters are better than the 2408.
The question is: Will the firewire interface of the Ensemble make for less solid DAW performance and worse latency than the PCIe of the 2408? Does the Ensemble have some voodoo that somehow compensates for what is typically a disadvantage to firewire vs PCI? Is the "tight integration" with Logic more than just surface GUI stuff?
Or is Firewire only marginally slower, but in a way that will be insignificant once I replace the ancient G5 with a new Mac Pro?

Hi C the T,
Over the past few years I've answered a lot of posts from people looking to adjust their systems' recording delay setting (Logic audio prefs) so that external audio recorded via their interface ends up placed and played back correctly in Logic. The calibration technique was based on doing a loopback test. And while I don't have direct experience myself with the Apogee, it turns out that everyone who reported doing such a test on their Apogees were able to leave their recording delay value set to zero. This is because, apparently, the Apogee drivers report their processing delay to Logic and Logic compensates! This can't be said of all audio systems, including MOTU (last I checked).
So yes, the integration of the Apogee and Logic seems very tight, and the voodoo seems real enough.
Inherently, though, PCI/PCIe-based systems are inherently more solid performance-wise. One of my regrets in swapping out my old MOTU 2408 and its PCIe-424 card for an RME FF800 was not holding off and getting some kind of alternate PCIe-based system instead. The FF flakes out on a regular basis, and I attribute it to some kind of FW weirdness. Never did my 2408 stutter, reset, or cut out on me (wish I could say that for the FireFace).
I think there's potential to run into FW data bottlenecks if you're streaming a lot of data from multiple disks and running a FW interface (all connected to the Mac's sole FW bus) unless you add a dedicated FW card to spread out the load. Now, that could be voodoo logic for all I know, but OTOH might be something worth exploring.
My 2-cents.

Anyone Using Apogee Ensemble? How Does It Sound?

the only weak link in my chain is my audio card. was wondering how does it sound compared to other interfaces?
thanks

There's been a very good discussion over at gearslutz. Apogee themselves are taking part...
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=85743&highlight=apogee+ensemble
Other good threads too if you do a search.
Apogee are currently providing the driver as Apple's firewire driver is ermm... unsuitable.
It is essential that all Ensemble users make sure they are using the latest software from apogee. they've been updating it every month for the past few months. I must say all my problems (well more like annoying niggles really)have gone since the last update - I'm not using every mode/config available of course.
Latency is pretty insignificant compared to the latency your daw provides due to plugins etc. I've just done a session this morning with a mandolin player. With PDC in Logic switched off for the busses I could still use plenty of plugins/VI's without problems (for his playing). Buffer is set to 128k right now. macpro's are just mind blowing!
As I type this I'm listening to Anoushk Shankar on CD through my ensemble and mackie 824's. Godd ddamn it sounds good:-)

Apogee ensemble firewire and thunderbolt

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