Apogee Ensemble - for those keeping score

I had a very pleasant conversation with Dave at Apogee this morning. His estimate is that shipping is still two to three weeks away. As he said, and as is well-known, the hardware has been ready to go for some time. They are, however, in the process of tweaking and fine-tuning the drivers to make sure that everything is as good as it can be.
Shipping in two to three weeks. My goodness, I hope so.
Paul

the focusrite Saffire PRO 26 i/o, has a lot more of what I need, you can get three for the price of one apogee,thats 78 i/o

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LOGIC PRO WITH APOGEE ENSEMBLE + SYNTHS I/O

Im upgrading my studio and planning to buy an apogee ensemble for logic, an access virus, a moog lp and possibly a couple of outboard compressors. If anyone has a similar setup (i.e. ensemble with a few synths) could you give me a bit of info on the I/O setup?
The ensemble has 4 mic inputs, 4 1/4” jack inputs and 8 1/4” jack outputs. Firstly, are the mic and line inputs separate? (if I have a mic connected to mic input 1, can I connect the moog to line input 1 and record simultaneously?)
The virus has 6 outputs, I haven’t researched this much put I presume I could have, let’s say 2 or 3 different sequenced stereo parts at the same time? In this case, I was thinking the I/O setup would be like the following:
Access virus > ensemble Mic inputs 1-4 (2 stereo patches using balanced 1/4” jack to XLR cables)
Moog lp> ensemble Line input 1 (is this possible when Mic input 1 is used by the virus?)
Ensemble output 1-2 > Monitors
Ensemble output 3-4 > virus inputs 1-2
Ensemble output 5 > moog input
(possibly) Ensemble output 7-8 > outboard stereo compressor/processor of some sort! Returned on ensemble line inputs 7-8.
Does anyone have a similar setup to this? If this configuration works I’ll def go ahead with it, but my only concern is that there’s barely any room for more options! I could have 3 mono outboard processors to be used as inserts for I/O 6,7 and 8 but if I want to purchase another synth I’ll have to get another ensemble! Is there a better/more efficient way to run this setup or should I get something other than the ensemble?
All comments appreciated, thanks!

Ensemle have 18 inputs, just 8 of them are analog. If you need more, you must use additional convertors with Adat outputs.

PLEASE HELP! Logic 8 w/ Apogee Ensemble & MOTU 8pre

Hello everyone!
This is my first post…I've been tracking this forum for a while and I must say you guys are all informative and generous. So, I hope I can have some generosity FLUNG my way!
Ok, I have:
*Logic 8 running on my MacBook Pro (2.2GHz , 250GB HD, 4GB RAM).
AYAK, Mac Book Pros have 1 Firewire 800 & 1 Firewire 400 input; I also have a Firewire PCI card plugged in which gives me 2 more FW in's.
*A MOTU 8pre running into my FW CARD with my LaCie HD running into the FW800.
I just recently bought an Apogee Ensemble…. WOW! Are the pres nice! And a FINE integration with Logic, ie the control panel n such! The pres are NEARLY as nice as my Millennia and that's saying a lot! Plus, if I run my Ridge Farm Gas Cookers or my LA-610 into the last 4 inputs, I get a GREAT variety of sounds and controllability.
WELL, the Ensemble is like a HOT girl friend that makes your toes curl but THEN, you find out she's a PSYCHO…but you don't wanna dump her cuz she's just so freakin hot and does things to you that…..c'mon I know we've ALL been there!…..with the girl AND the gear!
So, why PYSCHO? I just bought my unit this past August 22, 2008 (3 daze, I mean DAYS ago) from GC in Hollywood. I figured or ASSUMED it was a CURRENT version without all the BETA issues we've all read about! Well here are the issues:
1.) The MacBook Pro/LOGIC has lost sync (went offline) with it a couple of time and I had to reboot. The Apogee Audio Control Panel has become MOLASSES SLOW…leaving to have to reboot……Are the above DRIVER issues? How do I fix em?
2.) At START UP, I MUST have the Ensemble turned OFF and THEN, once booted up turn on the Ensemble for it to be recognized…now is this NORMAL for a Mac or is this an Ensemble trait? OR is it ANOTHER problem with the Ensemble? (OBTW, I'm a NEW Mac user woo hoo!)……..my MOTU 8pre would always have to be turned on BEFORE I booted up for it to be recognized and used in Logic….this is NOT the case for the Ensemble. I'd like to keep my MOTU 8pre….it's a pretty good interface and served me well as my first interface, as well as having more than decent pres!
3.) Last issue; when I hook BOTH the Ensemble and 8pre to my MBP (via FW of course), LOGIC will NOT recognize the 8pre. I can't even find it as an audio option. I'd like to be able to use BOTH of these and be able to record 16 channels at once…I've tried hooking these up MANY different ways…
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's FW and vice versa
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP with 8pre hooked up TO the Ensemble via Ensemble's LIGHT PIPE
-Ensemble to FW port of MBP and the 8pre hooked up to FW PCI Card port of MBP.
The above didn't seem to work… Can I indeed connect the 8pre AND Ensemble to my MBP and use them TOGETHER????
Now I am a NEWBIE to Mac AND Logic, BUT I ain't no FRESH OFF THE IDIOT TRAIN NEW…I work in computer recording frequently so please don't assume I'm a newbie NOT doing research. This is REAL WORLD TROUBLE HERE!
Also, if you think this is a case of RTFMJ (Read The F**** Manual Jacka$$), then you have NO IDEA what kind of manual comes WITH the Ensemble! Yeah, for those of you that know, the manual is a JOKE and doesn't really address much!
So, please help my fellow Logiceers!! Should I dump the girl and get another 8pre (which I KNOW I can daisy chain together)…remember, this girl is SO HOT….I love this Ensemble, but for $2,000, it shouldn't have THIS many issues! For 2K I get another MOTU 8pre, $500, another HD, $700 (a good Glyph 1TB always comes in handy…hey who doesn’t need another HD sitting around??), and maybe $800 of plug ins! Or shoot, I'll PAY SOME BILLS! So, any clues? Tips?

Here's the skinny.....
1) SOUND: Yummy! The best of the gear that I've come from (started 2002 with Roland 1880 & 2480 with Ridge Farm Gas Cookers & Boilers, True System P-Solo, Millennia HV-3, & UA LA610.) Yes, the pre's on the Ensemble are great. Not grungy like my Gas Cookers or even sweetly clean like my Millennia or True.....a nice middle ground. And the Soft Limit is great....the converters (inputs 5-8) going through my pres are sensational! Headphones have finally cleared up! Hmmmm, as have my monitors! Yes I'm going from Roland to Logic 8. It's a world of diff, even though I whole heartedly respect and love the 1880/2480's.......
2) LATENCY: Yeah Firewire vs Roland's format....well..... unless I REALLY cap my headphones tight, it sounds like I have a 5 millisec delay. I can live with it and compensate.... I'm new to Logic; is there a setting I can change whilst tracking? I don't use plugs while tracking..... I use the 8 X 8 mode to go at a HIGHER samp rate! Oh wow! NICE! And clear as a whistle! I don't get to use the Headphone outs at this rate, instead a TRS to 2X 1/4" break out from the Analog 1 & 2 OUTS....very nice! But, anyhoot Roland does win for Latency. Never any with my Rolands.
3) MAESTRO: Pretty well laid out and user friendly. UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS FOR LOGIC AND ENSEMBLE!!!! DO IT NOW!
4) DRIVERS: see above.
5) SUPPORT: Roland always sucked (wow, I didn't try to make this a Roland comp, just wanted to let you all know where I was coming from), Apogee....well..... 3 voicemails and 2 emails later, and no response on daisy chaining MORE THAN ONE Ensemble (which was one of the advertised selling points) OR using my aforementioned MOTU 8pre WITH the Ensemble via Lightpipe.... The Ensemble CAN NOT, repeat CAN NOT be used with ANYTHING ELSE! I've tried......
With the Ensemble you are STUCK with 8 I/O's.... PERIOD. Now, this isn't necessarily a BAD thing. It's the BEST, I repeat, BEST 8 channeler out there! But, again, with for a Firewire Interface, it is the best, but you're stuck with ONLY 8 inputs until you upgrade to Symphony.
In my case, a Symphony Mobile card (which is what I'd need, since I work through a Mac Book Pro), with an AD16X, DA16X & TWO X-Symphony cards (one for the AD16X & one for DA16X). So that would be a 16 in & 16 out with NO latency and, of course I would need 8 more preamps..... so to best the Ensemble ($2,000), I'd need the above Symphony System ($525, $3,000, $3,000, $175, $175, respectively, plus $4,000 of GOOD pres= $11,000ish)
So, a $2,000 BEST IN CLASS FIRWIRE interface that CAN'T be used with anything else but it's own 8 ins of joy, or $11,000 top of the line kick *** Symphony. I guess I'll keep my Ensemble. I RARELY do more than 8 tracks at once these days. Even for drums...c'mon...if you can't make drums sound kick *** with a KICK, SNARE, HI-HAT, OVERHEAD L & R, TOM, TOM & TOM/SNARE BOTTOM, you need to get a drum machine!
PLUS, the Ensemble will always be great for a quick interface on the go....shoot... a quickee recording gig with my only bringing my MacBook Pro (with CASE of course), a Rackmount (with my rackmounted gear as follows: Power Conitioner, Ensemble, Millennia, LA610, headphone amp, midi/usb interface & Glyphs) a Dolly, some mic stands, Mics, & a plug snake & cables..... that's a pretty darn good to-go menu! Shoot, how many ON LOCATION gigs have we done where this set up coulda been used! (Christmas CD's, choirs, Jazz Pianist, Voice overs).....let's just hope your client doesn't need NINE tracks recorded at once! yes, still bugged about that APOGEE!!!!!!
So there ya have it as far as my experience goes. I'll keep reporting back when I have more tastes of this 8 TRICK PONY ..... but what a pony it is!
OBTW, looks like I'll be SELLING my MOTU 8pre since I can't use it with my Ensemble!
Stay tuned.....

Tool icons, navigation, elements need to be larger for those that want it

I have read through many forums from May 2012 right up through the current ones about this issue. There are a lot of Photoshop users who are complaining about the size of tool icons and other elements as being way too small. Then there are others who defend the size of Photoshop and some who say the icons haven't really changed. Finally, there are some who say Adobe will not do anything about this.
Let me offer a perspective as a 15 year user of Photoshop and other Adobe products. Under the earlier versions of CS, Photoshop would follow the Windows sizing instructions inputed by the user. So if we wanted everything to be large and 150% of normal size, Photoshop would follow those instructions regardless of the monitors resolution. In CC especially, it appears Adobe has abandoned any connection in its software to what the user has defined in Windows about sizing. This isn't so much about the actual size as defined in Adobe's code but how those sizes vary or don't vary based on Windows settings.
This is no minor matter. We are now working on a high resoltuion, 23" Apple Cinema Monitor at top resolution. We do that to get maximam clarity. At the same time, we know that we cannot possibly use any software that looks as small as it would in that resoltuion without adjustment. So we turn around and crank Windows up to maximum oversize in every setting that exist. The result is that desktop icons show at the size we want and other major software also shows at the size we want. The best example is Cubase which is a professional digital audio workstation. Cubase is to muisic what Photoshop is to images. Both highly professional tools. The difference is that even in high resolution, Cubase defers to the Windows sizing. All the icons, menus, navigation bar, track workspace and more are very large just like the icons on our desktop.
This means that we know it is possible and not difficult for all software to follow the Windows settings inspite of the native resolutlion. So far Adobe has chosen not to do this. Below is a screen shot of PS CC on our monitor (actually 2 monitors with Apple Cinema on the left where PS is). Unlike all the screen shots that have been shown by others during the last 18 months, we made sure that our desktop icons could be clearly seen as well. Notice the size difference between PS icons, navigation and elements versus our desktop icons. Cubase looks like our desktop icons. So why can't PS?
It is our recommendation that Adobe do the following immediately. You can't ignore 18 months or more of complaints from a large number of users without addressing the problem. The world has gone to high resolution monitors but for many of us, we need the size of software to be larger than the native resolution we are using. It's not a matter of dropping the resolution. That is not desirable and not necessary based on our actual experience. That produces other types of problems with lack of clarity that don't work. Try to select a single strand of a sound wave when there are one hundred a second in low resolution. We need the resolution but we also need the software to show larger for those that want it. For those that don't, you may be happy but why should everyone else be unhappy or unable to use the new software.
1. Provide a yes/no option to allow Adobe CC to follow the Windows sizing settings inspite of monitor resolution. Those that don't want to do this can leave it no. Those that want it can turn it on and make the entire program look bigger.
2. Provide internal CC settings to increase the size of any and all visual workspace elements and tools on a percentage basis for maximum flexibility. There may be good reasons why some people don't want to change their Windows sizing but do want to increase the visual size of CC programs.
Frankly, this is not rocket science and I'm amazed Adobe didn't jump on solutions after the 2012 forum discussions. To hear from people that nothing is gong to be done is scary for the user and should be scary for Adobe since it could result in losing customers and sales. Let's make this program work for all users on all resolution monitors in the way they need it to work. Other major software companies have done this. Why is Adobe the odd company out on this.

Thanks for your thoughtful answer. I do appreciate the issues here.
I'm aware of the problems in how applications work in an OS when that OS keeps changing (too much?!). Yes, this could be very consuming from a resource perspective and could take some time.
That's why my second recommendation addresses this problem without having to worry about the OS. It is not a huge resource or time issue for Adobe to provide internal sizing controls for all aspects of its software that have nothing to do with the OS or the resolution of monitor. We've had that sizing control for how big the file we are working with shows on the screen since Photoshop 1.0. I am aware of applications that added such sizing controls over 10 years ago and one of them over 15 years ago. This isn't new.
So let's put aside the disucssion about the OS and just focus on a way to define how big the entire PS program shows including all tools, elements and navigation on a percentage basis. Just an addition to the internal Preferences of the program itself. If I want PS to show at 200% or 300% of it's standard size, let me do it
The time and resources to add this to the program are not huge. Further, since this issue has been discussed for a long time, it should have been much higher on the priority list. If I was running product development, I would have made this a mandatory part of the introduction of CC. The number of complaints are simply too high to ignore this or say that it's going to take time. That tells me it's not a high enough priority on the development list.
Let's remember that for every person who does complain on these forums, there are a hundred or more that don't but are experiencing the same thing. The small size of PS tools, icons, elements and text is simply unacceptable to too many users for it to have gone on unaddressed this long.

How do i get rid of the pop ups that are constantly popping up on my mac. Everytime i search for anything on google an ad for mac keeper comes up and every time i access Netflix another stream of ads pop up... Do i have a virus HELPPPPPP

How do i get rid of the pop ups that are constantly popping up on my mac. Everytime i search for anything on google an ad for mac keeper comes up and every time i access Netflix another stream of ads pop up... Do i have a virus HELPPPPPP

You may have installed the "VSearch" trojan, perhaps under a different name. Remove it as follows.
Malware is constantly changing to get around the defenses against it. The instructions in this comment are valid as of now, as far as I know. They won't necessarily be valid in the future. Anyone finding this comment a few days or more after it was posted should look for more recent discussions or start a new one.
Back up all data before proceeding.
Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:
/Library/LaunchAgents/com.vsearch.agent.plist
Right-click or control-click the line and select
          Services ▹ Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)
from the contextual menu.* A folder should open with an item named "com.vsearch.agent.plist" selected. Drag the selected item to the Trash. You may be prompted for your administrator login password.
Repeat with each of these lines:
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.vsearch.daemon.plist
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.vsearch.helper.plist
/Library/LaunchDaemons/Jack.plist
Restart the computer and empty the Trash. Then delete the following items in the same way:
/Library/Application Support/VSearch
/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/Jack
/System/Library/Frameworks/VSearch.framework
~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ConduitNPAPIPlugin.plugin
Some of these items may be absent, in which case you'll get a message that the file can't be found. Skip that item and go on to the next one.
From the Safari menu bar, select
          Safari ▹ Preferences... ▹ Extensions
Uninstall any extensions you don't know you need, including any that have the word "Spigot," "Trovi," or "Conduit" in the description. If in doubt, uninstall all extensions. Do the equivalent for the Firefox and Chrome browsers, if you use either of those.
Reset the home page and default search engine in all the browsers, if it was changed.
This trojan is distributed on illegal websites that traffic in pirated content. If you, or anyone else who uses the computer, visit such sites and follow prompts to install software, you can expect much worse to happen in the future.
You may be wondering why you didn't get a warning from Gatekeeper about installing software from an unknown developer, as you should have. The reason is that this Internet criminal has a codesigning certificate issued by Apple, which causes Gatekeeper to give the installer a pass. Apple could revoke the certificate, but as of this writing, has not done so, even though it's aware of the problem. This failure of oversight has compromised both Gatekeeper and the Developer ID program. You can't rely on Gatekeeper alone to protect you from harmful software.
*If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select
          Go ▹ Go to Folder...
from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You won't see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

Important News For Those Who Use Hulu And Other Flash Video Websites.

Adobe will release the next update to the Adobe Flash software in the next few weeks and that update will bring better GPU video decoding acceleration for Windows if you have recent graphics hardware from ATI, Nvidia, or Intel. This update is VERY important for those who use laptops which have less powerful processors and hardware than desktops usually do. In order to take advantage of this update when it comes out, you MUST have the latest graphics cards drivers for your hardware. ATI, Nvidia, and Intel will all be releasing new drivers specifically for the updated Flash software so keep an eye on the respective websites for your graphics hardware maker. Of those companies, only Intel and Nvidia have drivers available for testing at the moment, but ATI is not far behind.

You may be able to disable Flash entirely and just use HTML 5 video codecs to view the videos this is faster but you may lose access to some videos such as ones that have mandatory advertisements.

How do you Control SPDIF input levels in Logic Pro using Apogee Ensemble

Hello,
Question. I have an Apogee Ensemble audio interface hooked up to my Macbook Pro. I have a Motif XS8 that I record audio from through SPDIF.
I am able to get sound through to my audio track once setting the inputs in Logic, however the levels are not even close to halfway. I can not figure out how to fix adjust the SPDIF level to make it hotter b/c I know once I add virtual tracks and vocals through my preamp, the audio from my motif will likely not be hearable.
Please let me know.
Also, when I record an audio track is says about 15 minutes remaining to record. Does that mean I have 15 mins of audio for each track or for all my recording period???

Not owning an Apogee Ensemble, maybe someone else who does has more definitive info can jump in, but do not confuse the lower level of the SPDIF input with "lesser quality". It's a digital connection, with no analog conversion.
-18 dBFS on a digital scale is the same as 0dB on an analog scale.
I think what you're experiencing, is the fact that so many people think they need to get the meters in Logic closer to 0dB, which is actually NOT what you want (when staying ITB). This thinking is left over from the days of analogue recording, or the early days of 16 bit digital recording.
Turn your other sources in Logic down, and you'll reap the benefits of not overloading the 2 buss, allowing the plug-ins to do their computations without distorting, etc... Then you can bring the over all level of your mix back up, in mastering.
If the Motif is considerably lower in volume than that, you could always insert a gainer plug-in on the audio track.
As to the 15 minutes, that is what Logic has pre-allocated for recording to your hard drive. It "re-sets" each time you go into record, so it's not saying "you only have 15 minutes of record time available". It's saying, "you have 15 minutes of hard disk space allocated each time you go into record, based on your sample rate and bit depth settings". This can be changed in the Audio pathway, but it's recommended to leave this number as low as possible/necessary, to avoid disk fragmentation.

I have an apogee ensemble that I am using with Logic that was working fine 2 days ago but now it is seeing the apogee but giving me a conflict era and I can't get sound through my mixing board. What could be causing it, I haven't changed any settings

I have an apogee ensemble that I am using with Logic that was working fine 2 days ago but now it is seeing the apogee but giving me a conflict era and I can't get sound through my mixing board. What could be causing it, I haven't changed any settings

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For those having issues with networking (wifi) after 10.6.7 installation

Hi everyone,
I don't want to get your hopes up, but I MAY have found at least a temporary solution to this very annoying problem. It involves deleting a preference file and restarting, so it's worth a shot. I can't promise that it's a permanent fix since I've only just gotten my connection back up and running, but it is a start. This also works for those who are getting the "self-assigned IP" error.
Simply go to your Library/Preferences/ folder and look for the com.apple.alf.plist and delete it by holding shift+apple+backspace. You may want to back up this file prior to deleting this, as this file is associate with your firewall. Any changes you made to your firewall will need to be reapplied, so keep that in mind. After deleting the file, simply restart and make sure your wifi settings are right. This worked for me after one restart, and I've now been running solid for about an hour. Again, I don't know if this will be a long term fix since the connection seems to fail after a few days of use, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
Please let me know if this has been of any help.

Veggibacon,
I've been having the same connection dropout issue since 10.6.7 but with ethernet rather than wifi. Saw your post a couple of weeks ago and figured I could safely ignore it since my firewall was off and I wasn't connecting with wifi… silly me. Came back to this post (out of desperation, really) and even with the firewall off, deleting the com.apple.alf.plist file and restarting seems to have fixed my problem, for the time being. Considering the success, or total lack thereof, that I've had with every other "fix" that I've tried I'm curios how it is working out for you after a month. Has it really fixed the problem or has the problem resurfaced?

Why have my bookmarks been turned into Bing Searches for those sites? Why do I get a Bing Search when I manually type in the address?

Ever since I installed FireFox 4, I seem to have lost the function of my bookmarks. They simply open up Bing Searches for those sites. I don't even like Bing, why does it keep getting installed into my Firefox?
When I type in the address manually into the address bar (NOT the search bar), I get a Bing Search for the address as well.

I think an add-on has hijacked your browser. If this started with Firefox 4, are you sure you installed the official package from http://www.mozilla.com/ ?
In past threads similar to this, people mentioned a Zugo Search Bar, but I haven't dug into it deeply.
First, make a backup of your Firefox settings for safekeeping: [https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Backing+up+your+information Backing up your information].
Next, try starting Firefox in Firefox
[http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Safe+Mode Safe Mode]. Be careful not to "reset" anything permanently if you didn't back up.
Does running Firefox without add-ons fix it?
If so, you could disable them all and then gradually restore the ones that are most valuable to you.
If not, there might be some external software intercepting Firefox's communications.

Apogee ensemble and logic studio

I got a new apple desktop pro quad 2.66 and Logic Studio.
I have been using a Motu 828mk11 and logic 7 pro.
I was considering using the Apogee Ensemble and was wondering if anyone using Studio has any luck with Ensemble and if they think the switch would be worth the investment.
I also Use an API A2D preamp with the digital outs.....any news on how that might work with Ensemble?
anyway, just a note, if anyone cares, the UAD Nevana X2 works really tightly with Logic Studio and its WORTH the purchase price. amazing.

Respiro wrote:
saved through it as wavs?
If you use outboard gear for mix and processing i.e you route out your Software Instruments thru some of the Apogee outputs (analog/optical or digital), process them using some external analog or DSP processors and route back the processed sound to the Apogee Inputs ( i.e Logic Mix track ), then the mix may be different, rather than the Logic native Bounce.
If you use Logic bounce, then Apogee is just a monitoring device as was mentioned before. I agree if you have several devices and play same (previously) bounced Logic audio file thru the different devices they may sound different - this the test the audio engineers make in the laboratories.
Personally I own several devices and I prefer to use one for final mix monitoring (which is most "true" not "sweet or pumped"), some for recording, other for internal DSP processing, depends on the situation...
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Apogee Ensemble: What are the issues it has with Logic 8?

I've read raving reviews about the Ensemble--one of which describes it as being a huge improvement over a MOTU 828mkII, which I happen to have. At the same time, I've seen some posts in this forum about the issues the Ensemble has with Logic 8. I couldn't find, or understand, what those issues are.
Can someone explain to me what problems I might encounter if I get an Apogee Ensemble? I'd much appreciate it.

Mackie control with Logic 8 is all over the place, i was surprise to see this the Stop Play Rewind and so forth is at fault, the faders works so i have to use the Controls on screen, i take it Apple will soon update the Control-units to work properly with Logic 8, even though L.8 is pretty new, but i find Logic 8 to be very impressive,
Fr. BlayZay.

How do I get 5.1 optical out (DVD Player) into Apogee Ensemble?

This should be the simplest thing to do.
I've set the DVD Player prefs to Digital Audio out.
Plugged an optical cable from the out of the Mac Pro to the in of the Apogee Ensemble.
Opened Audio and Midi prefs and tried various logical settings. Opened Maestro and done the same there. Tried changing the clock to optical - nothing (but flashing light on Apogee).
It works fine in stereo through the Apogee connected just by firewire, but it's not what I had in mind...
Any help from someone who knows the Ensemble would be gratefully received.

Cig is right, I'm not seeing anything about your device that states it's 5.1 or DTS certified... also, if you are trying to use a commercial DVD, then you might also be running into DRM issues...
I think you are still leaving out part of your workflow here. I'm Understanding this: DVD Movie > DVD player.app > Digital Optical Audio > Apogee Ensemble > to what????
It should be: Stand alone DVD player > Digital Audio > Mac Pro > Sound App.
Yes, you can output with the Ensemble, but to what? this is meant more as a device to input audio, not to act as a reciever.
contact Apogee for confirmation on this if you like. there are other ways to playback the audio or inport the audio, so long as you own the copyrights, of course

Logic 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble

Has anyone had any issues with updating to 9.1.6 and the Apogee Ensemble interface?

Yes. I have just gone through two Apogee Ensembles and unfortunately I don't think they like Mountain Lion very much. I wish I could get a refund, but I went through 6 MONTHS of tech support before getting this replacement unit and it's still having issues on my two computers running ML.
The issue on both my computers is that Maestro 2 often will not recognize the Ensemble is connected. You have to turn it off and on and then restart the computer before it recognizes. As well, sound will sporadically drop out and the Ensemble needs to be restarted. Also, the Ensemble has on occasion crashed and holding down the power button for several seconds is the only way to get it to turn off and on again.
BIG headache.

Anyone Using Apogee Ensemble? How Does It Sound?

the only weak link in my chain is my audio card. was wondering how does it sound compared to other interfaces?
thanks

There's been a very good discussion over at gearslutz. Apogee themselves are taking part...
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=85743&highlight=apogee+ensemble
Other good threads too if you do a search.
Apogee are currently providing the driver as Apple's firewire driver is ermm... unsuitable.
It is essential that all Ensemble users make sure they are using the latest software from apogee. they've been updating it every month for the past few months. I must say all my problems (well more like annoying niggles really)have gone since the last update - I'm not using every mode/config available of course.
Latency is pretty insignificant compared to the latency your daw provides due to plugins etc. I've just done a session this morning with a mandolin player. With PDC in Logic switched off for the busses I could still use plenty of plugins/VI's without problems (for his playing). Buffer is set to 128k right now. macpro's are just mind blowing!
As I type this I'm listening to Anoushk Shankar on CD through my ensemble and mackie 824's. Godd ddamn it sounds good:-)

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