Apple 27'' Cinema display issue with nvidia quadro 1800 - Win 7 64bit
Hello,
I'm trying to help out a buddy of mine with his cinema monitor.
He has a Windows 7 x64 machine, with a Nvidia Quadro 1800 - monitor hooked in via DVI port.
Basically when you boot the PC up with the Apple monitor, the monitor turns on and backlit but no display, no options for BIOS or anything like that, just lit up and black screen.
I can boot up the PC with a Dell monitor and it boots up fine - and if I take the DVI out of the Dell monitor and plug it in to the Apple monitor while the machine is up and running, the Apple monitor comes on and works without issue - however, if you were to reboot it, or if it goes to sleep - I lose the Apple monitor, and have to start the process over.
The Windows machine recognizes the Apple monitor, it displays as Cinema monitor - all the video card drivers are up to date - also had the same issue with a previous video card (I swapped the video cards out thinking initally it was a bad video card)
What am I missing?
Thanks!
Hello,
I'm trying to help out a buddy of mine with his cinema monitor.
He has a Windows 7 x64 machine, with a Nvidia Quadro 1800 - monitor hooked in via DVI port.
Basically when you boot the PC up with the Apple monitor, the monitor turns on and backlit but no display, no options for BIOS or anything like that, just lit up and black screen.
I can boot up the PC with a Dell monitor and it boots up fine - and if I take the DVI out of the Dell monitor and plug it in to the Apple monitor while the machine is up and running, the Apple monitor comes on and works without issue - however, if you were to reboot it, or if it goes to sleep - I lose the Apple monitor, and have to start the process over.
The Windows machine recognizes the Apple monitor, it displays as Cinema monitor - all the video card drivers are up to date - also had the same issue with a previous video card (I swapped the video cards out thinking initally it was a bad video card)
What am I missing?
Thanks!
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