Apple and ATI aware of iMac freezing issue

Now they just need to figure out how to fix it.
Here is a post from today by one of the Blizzard mac techs on the Mac Support forum of the World of Warcraft forums:
There are at least two sides to customer support.
One is, identifying issues that need to be fixed. In this case (ATI
driver bug) that task is done. ATI and Apple are aware of the issue and
working on it, I confirmed that with them today.
Two is, finding a way to provide short term relief of the issue if at
all possible.
Since we can't make a driver update appear in seconds, bear with us if
we make suggestions that may in fact improve stability for you until a
more lasting fix is available.
"

wawalulu,
If you can wait a few weeks for Apple and ATI to sort out the graphics driver problems, that might be your best bet. With any new model it does take Apple a couple months to iron out the glitches so when this happens, you will have a pretty solid Mac.
I work supporting both Macs and PC's where the user base is in the thousands and I will tell you on the whole, Macs are definitely more trouble-free than PC's. However, I won't candy coat things like some of the posters on this forum. There WILL be issues that will crop up but usually Apple does the right thing and fixes them. Sending feedback and patience is the key. When the new Leopard OS (10.5) comes out this month, I guarantee there will be issues due to it's newness and lack of maturity. However, if Apple's past track record is any indication, it shouldn't have anywhere near the issues Windows Vista has. We won't even support Vista where I work because it's so troublesome!
BTW, my 20" late 2006 iMac I use at work has been rock solid. This is because it's a revised version of the original intel iMac Apple released so most of the bugs were worked out. The G5 tower I had before that was perfect as well as the G4 and G3 towers I used before that. All of these Macs were at least second revision of their respective model lines. If memory serves, all of them has some teething pains in their first revisions.
I have a new 20" aluminum iMac at home, breaking my cardinal rule to never buy the first revision of a new product and it does have the graphics freezing issue talked about in these threads but it's only happened twice. So, I knew full well what I was getting into and am patiently waiting for Apple to release an update and fix the issue. Why did it have to be so... darn... sexy?!
I'll end this post on the following note: I use Macs at home precisely because I don't want to spend time fixing things... because I do that all day at work! If there was a better computer and OS out there, I'd be using it!
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    I was basically pleased with the iMac for a few months. However, there was one problem I could never solve: the wifi connection got lost periodically, even though I had made all of the system updates. I know this is a problem with the iMac, because my numerous Windows PCs and my two iPod toouches had no problem with a wifi connection. It appears from various posts here that this is indeed a problem many others have experienced since Snow Leopard's release, and as far as I can tell, despite many updates to the Airport software it has never been fixed by Apple. Strike 1.
    A couple of weeks ago, my iMac started running slow for no reason I could identify. I don't have a lot of software installed on it, I didn't download anything pirated or questionable. I did install bootcamp according to Apple's instructions, and it worked fine (I wanted to run some Windows games). I tried doing all of the things that folks suggest when your computer is running slow - repairing permissions, running Onyx, etc. None of them seemed to do anything. I tried creating a new user, it had the same problem. I also noticed various other problems with the computer: it was slow to recognize a USB hard drive (and sometimes didn't recognize it at all), external hard drives would not appear in the time machine set up, and various other problems I can't quite recall. Overall, while presumably nothing serious should have been wrong with my computer, I decided I probably should simply reinstall OS X. Strike 2.
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    And the sad fact is, once I am done, I will have a very beautiful computer that can't hold an internet connection.
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    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=Applewifi+signaldrops
    Google turned up a 43 page thread, going on for a year, not very encouraging.
    a href=http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2142725&tstart=0&me ssageID=12175855#12175855> Dropping Wi FI Signal
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    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1094
    Safari and DNS:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2227251
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20016549-263.html
    Airport:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20012462-263.html
    Joining an encrypted wireless network
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    If you can focus on networking, there are some excellent people that hang out there.
    http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1343
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    iMac Networking Discussion?
    http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1111
    Support, tutorials, how to, etc:
    http://www.apple.com/support/imac/intel/
    Potential sources for interference with wireless
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1365
    Bluetooth: If your computer stops recognizing your Apple wireless mouse or wireless trackpad, simply click the mouse button or trackpad surface to get it working again. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3048
    And, sometimes just knowing what make of networking equipment (linksys, netgear, d-link, even Apple). USB ADSL or a USB wireless devices don't work with Macs. Checked for firmware update for the network devices?
    Changing from WEP to WPA
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    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20014188-263.html
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    The network administration and security testing utility NetScan (free) has also been updated and now has a revamped interface and new features for port scanning as well as fixes for icon appearance and update-checking problems.
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20013211-263.html
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    Reason being, I've tried and checked log after log and have never seen a connection drop inside an Apple Store.
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    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2142725&start=225&tstart=0
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    2) Choose Set Service Order from the Actions pop-up menu.
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