Apple Configurator - apps into folders

When installing apps from apple configurator how do I organize apps into folders.
I downloaded the apps using iTunes on my master Mac Air laptop.
I can set up apps onto iPads. I just need to know if I can install the apps into pre-defined folders.
Thanks
S
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Hi SSoman,
Yes wrant is right. If you are Supervising iPads, then get one iPad first and Supervise it in Apple Configurator. Then add apps to Apple Configurator (which you downloaded with iTunes). Use Apple Configurator to install those apps onto your newly Supervised iPad. Organize the apps into folders the way you want. Once all apps are in the folders you want them to be in, create a supervised backup of that iPad. Use that "master" backup and restore that backup on to any additional iPads. Apps will stay in their designated folders
Hope this answers your question!
~Joe

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Hello, I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue? I was very excited to finally be able to organize my apps into folders as I had tons of them and they wretched to navigate. I spent a long time getting them all set and where I wanted them and down to 2 pages total. I plugged the iPad in to charge using a wall charger (the one it came with) and 3 hours later the folders were all gone! I found this to be incredibly frustrating and among the worst experiences I've had with an apple product. My iPhone 4 certainly did not dump all its folders...

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They can automatically unpack on a sync.
We should all know there are screens off to the right of the valid eleven home pages. If your last page is full of icons and you inadvertently add another something is shoved off to the right. If you move home screens around using iTunes this also happens.
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*CREATING FOLDERS*
Second you are safer building your folders on the device itself. To do this I move everything off the bottom bar and use it as a placeholder (bus)to shuttle apps around as I figure out what group they should be added to. I have over 800 apps in 22 GB on the iPad now. Things are well organized and nice looking when scanning the home pages.
When setting it up I just added all the apps at once. Then as I made room on the home screens I paused made sure my 'bus' was empty, then shut down the iPad to power off and back on again. This cleans up memory and on reboot the iPad will add as many of the hidden apps to the space on your eleven home pages. There after it became a session of rinse and repeat until all the apps I wanted where filed away and arranged.
Use meaningful folder names.
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How do you remember to delete them from iTunes too? When I get to the delete confirmation screen I take a screenshot which is stored in my Photos roll. Then I browse that roll while before the computer and find each app that needs to be permanently deleted. After deleting it from the PC I then delete the reminder picture from the iPad.

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I have about 155 apps on the iPhone, making the job extra lengthy. However, I never could do it on the iPhone’s tiny screen, even though it is possible, so this was good - working on the larger screen of the MacBook.
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