Apple Extreme / Apple Express

I have set up an Apple Extreme modem and extended that with a Express for listening to my music. The Extreme suffered with double NAT errors so I changed it successfully. This network has never been a problem.
I then got the first of the two updates for Apple Extreme and lost most of my network - I only have bothered to try and keep the Extreme working. The problem is very poor signal strength - as I type this I am less than four feet away and the strength is about in the middle - i.e. SLOW. I have reset it several times. Just the Extreme alone before these updates permitted full strength all around the house - now it won't work with a door in between. Anybody else had problems with these updates?

Is it possible you're getting interference from something, such as from another WiFi network? There are really only three 802.11 WiFi channels (1, 6, 11) of the available channels that don't overlap, for instance. And even low-powered or marginal interference can seriously gronk on WiFi.
As for a discussion of the Apple Extreme firmware update, see:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=830859
If you're seeking packet loss at the distances likely under discussion here, look for interference from a cordless phone, game controller, florescent lighting, leaky microwave ovens, or the seven or eight WiFi mis-configured devices inevitably lurking "right next door".

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Can anyone recommend apple extreme vs express for Mac pro and 2x iPads in home setting?

Looking for advice on use of express vs extreme for home use

The Extreme is dual band, so faster devices will connect to the faster band while slower devices connect at their own pace. The slower devices will not slow down the faster devices, as would be the case with the single band AirPort Expess.
The USB port on the Extreme will support a hard drive and/or a printer. The USB port on the AirPort Express will support only a printer.
The Extreme uses a new antenna array that will result in better coverage and deeper penetration of the signal. The Express uses a simple antenna arrangement.
If you plan to connect any wired devices to the the router, the Exteme has 3 Ethernet ports. The single Ethernet port on the Express will be used to connect to the modem, so any other wired devices will not be able to connect to the Express.
The Express will handle a total of 10 wireless connections, while the Extreme will handle up to 50.
For an $80 premium the Extreme probably provides 3 times the performance capabilty of an Express. That makes it a no brainer for me, but you and others may disagree.

I can not join my Apple extreme with the Apple express. I shows a conflict in the network! I've tried everything. How can they join on the same network?

I can not join my Apple extreme with the Apple express. I shows a conflict in the network! I've tried everything. How can they join on the same network?

It says that my DHCP has to be changed! How? to what?
It is 802.11g.express. but is set to default by the computer (Macbook Air).
The other is 802.11n. (express)
Extreme is 802.11.g. Is the Main Airport.
It is on ethernet & wep 128 security.

How can I verify that my Apple Express is "absolutely" extending my Apple Extreme?

Greetings,
I purchased an Apple Express to extend my Apple Extreme due to intermittent Wi-Fi signal in part of my home.
I connected it and it automatically configured the Express to extend my Apple Extreme.
My question is how exactly can I verify absolutely that my devices (laptops, iPad's, etc.) are connecting through the Express and NOT the Extreme as they were before. (the Express is closer to all devices than the Extreme).
There has to be a way to verify this, however, I can't find it through searching the web.
To note, signal bars on devices have not and do not change. Meaning they have 3 bars with, and 3 bars without, regardless.
Thank you in advance.

For Windows-based computers, try entering the following at the Command Prompt: netsh wlan show networks mode=Bssid|findstr "BSSID" You can also try: netsh wlan show all
This should provide you with a list of all Wireless Access Points that is detected by your PC.
For the iPad, I am not aware of any built-in apps that will show this. However, apps, like Net Analyzer should do the trick. There's also a Net Analyzer Lite version for free.

HT4262 Is there any way to extend my Apple Extreme Base Station using an Apple Express by via ethernet or does it only work via wifi and being in range?

From what I read, the only way to extend my Apple Wifi Network is via another Apple Airport Extreme or Express using overlapping wifi zones. If I try to connect my Apple Express to my Apple Extreme via Ethernet, then this is guaranteed to fail regardless of how I configure the Express. Is that correct?

It is certainly possible and better....in terms of performance.....to connect the AiPort Express to your AirPort Extreme using Ethernet to extend the network that way.
If you are having problems with this, then your setup is not correct....or....if your setup is correct, you may have a defective AirPort.
We can walk you through the steps to get things set up correctly if we can get some basic information to provide the correct settings.
What is the model number of the AirPort Extreme?
What is the model number of the AirPort Express?
if you are not sure, look on the bottom of the Extreme and side or bottom of the Expess. The model number starts with an "A" followed by four numbers.
We also need to know what operating system you are using on your computer. If you have a Mac, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac and post back with the OS X Version number that you see there.
We will likely have more questions about your current setup to understand things a bit better, so please be patient.

How can I best make use of all my devices ? Mac mini, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, airport express, ipad 2 (all purchased in 2011) and an old imac with OS X. I use my iPhones personal hotspot for all Internet.

How can I best make use of all my devices ? Mac mini, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, airport express, ipad 2 (all purchased in 2011) and an old imac with OS X. I use my iPhones personal hotspot for all Internet.

Maybe you are looking to re-purpose this equipment versus getting rid of it if so, the best thing to do is search the internet for tutorials. And I say this because it's what I would do, there are a lot of tutorials online. Hope you can find good use for them. Worse case scenario if you can't find something right now, package them very nicely and when you come across something unbox and enjoy. I've re-purposed a mac color classic and LOVE IT!!

Using both an Apple Extreme and Apple Express??

I am using Apple Extreme for my everyday use - Just purchased a new Yamaha receiver with a LAN for Pandora, etc. I plugged it in to my airport express and just getting a blinking yellow light. Looked for it in the networks in area but didn't show - is there something I need to do to get this configured or to see it on my Extreme? Any ideas?
Thanks

Thanks.
Hold in the reset button on the AirPort Express for 9-10 seconds and then release it. Allow a full minute for it to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Unplug the power on the Express and temporarily move it to the same room as the AirPort Extreme for the setup.
Power up the Express and let it run a minute.
Open AirPort Utility and click on the tab at the upper left corner of the window that reads Other AirPort Base Stations (1).
Click on AirPort Express xxxxxx
Wait a minute or two while AirPort Utility analyzes the network and then announces that the Express will be configured to "Extend" your network.
Enter in a name for the AirPort Express device
Click Next
Wait a few minutes to allow AirPort Utility to read the setttings on the AirPort Extreme and configure the AirPort Express with the settings that it needs
When you see the message that Setup is Complete, click Done
Unplug the Express and move it to the desired location and power it back up. Wait a minute for a green light.
Make sure the AV receiver is powered off
Connect a known good working Ethernet cable from the LAN <-> port on the Express to the AV receiver and power up the receiver.
Check things out.

My IBM X220 does a better job accessing harddisks on apple extreme in wifi extended with apple express than my macbook Air

I have 2 harddisks connected to a Apple Extreme, and USB hub.
An apple express extends the wifi network. Both devices are located on 2 stages in the house.
I want to access the files on the HD from my Macbook Air downstairs. Maverick.
Totally impossible.
My IBM X220 does a far better job.
I Used 2,5 Ghz, 5Ghz. Different channels.
The router has a disabled wifi as the extreme takes care of it.
I'm at 4 meters from the express. This is ridiculous. If this is extending a network.
Any advise or tips on how to enable fluent audio access from my macbook air.
Thank you guys

I run in bridge off mode from the express.
So does the extreme.
Will changing to DHCP and / or NAT change anything ?

Airport extreme and express & apple TV

I have an airport extreme and express & apple TV. I'd like to do the following:
1) Extend the network via the express
2) Enable the express to stream music to the stereo from the apple TV
I am sure someone has figured this out but I can't find the answer...
Thank you

Firstly, the easiest bit (although I don't believe you need to do this):
I would try "downgrading" the Extreme station's network type to only b/g (excluding n entirely), but I don't see that option in the radio settings anymore
You will get additional settings if you hold down the option key while browsing the radio settings drop down menu.
Moving on: Unfortunately a dropped connections seems to be a problem with umpteen causes and not only is it difficult to troubleshoot with someone in a forum it can also be made even more difficult because many problems are associated with network settings on a router that the person who is trying to help is unfamiliar with.
However you seem to be convinced your problems arise when your express is running which may narrow things down a little if correct, if not it may actually lead us away from the answer to your issue.
Is it the kind of security I'm running? Should I try WEP or... none at all?
I use WPA and have no problems (password = 8 Characters)
Should I attach it a different way? Perhaps manually set it to "participate in a WDS network" or "extend a wireless network?
I have my expresses set to participate in a WDS network, but that's because I use them for other things other than itunes, I would have thought 'join a network' would be fine.
You could check that all your devices are using independent IP addresses and all are using the same subnet. You could also check that no two devices have the same mac address, I've been told a million times this can't happen, but I've seen it. You may be wise to check these things before and after your devices have been 'kicked off the network", you may even want to write them down to see if any are changing.

Using an apple extreme with an apple express as a wired bridge for roaming. Thinking of adding a wireless express to extend network.

Hi
I have an Apple extreme AC installed with an Apple Express N setup as a bridge through ethernet to extend my network. Im thinking of adding another express to a location that has no ethernet.
All I should need to do is set the extreme for "extend my Network" and setup the express that way as well?
Thanks!

You should not have to make any changes at all on the AirPort Extreme.
Temporarily, locate the new Express near the AirPort Extreme and power it up for a few minutes
On the iPad....
Tap Settings on the home screen
Tap WiFi
Look for a listing of Setup a new AirPort Base Station
Tap on AirPort Express
The setup utility will take a minute to analyze things, then announce that the Express will be configured to extend the AirPort Extreme network
Enter a device name that you want use for the Express and tap Next
Wait a minute while things are set up for you, then tap Done when you see the Setup Complete message.
Now move the Express to a location that is about half way between the AirPort Extreme and the area that needs more wireless coverage and power it back up
Everything above assumes that the AirPort Extreme was set up correctly by 10.6.8. It would have been better to use the iPad for the setup of the new AirPort Extreme, but what is done is done.

Airport Extreme, Apple TV and two Expresses

I have a network that runs between the Apple Extreme and the Apple TV. I joined two Expresses to that same network. The Apple TV disconnects now when I play music through the two Expresses.
Should I set up two different networks: Extreme to Apple TV (one network)AND Wireless G Adapter to the two Expresses (a second network)?
Thanks for your help,
Matt

This may work if your assumption (and mine) is that your existing wireless LAN doesn't have enough bandwidth to support an AppleTV and two Airport Expresses.
I assume you are thinking of having one cabled LAN with two wireless access points on it - one dedicated to communicating with AppleTV (using an Airport Extreme N base station) at N-only speeds, and another dedicated to communicating with the two Expresses (could use any wireless router or access point that supports b/g speeds). Yes - that will work and may well solve your problem.

Apple Final Cut Express HD 3.5

For those wanting more than iMovie then Apple Final Cut Express HD 3.5 is now available as a Universal Binary. Yipee!!
http://www.apple.com/finalcutexpress/

Well, they're not supported by Apple to run it. You
won't be able to get technical support directly from
them and the folks in the Final Cut forums may not be
able to give you specific advice.
-Doug
What? Read the specs!
Final Cut Studio:
Macintosh computer with 867MHz or faster PowerPC G4, PowerPC G5, or Intel Core Duo processor
HD features require 1GHz or faster single or dual processors (authoring HD DVDs requires a PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor)
512MB of RAM; 1GB of RAM for HD features (2GB recommended)
Display with 1024-by-768 (or higher) resolution
AGP Quartz Extreme or PCI Express graphics card
Quartz Extreme is supported by my iBook and certainly also the new MacBook!
Motion requires the standard graphics card found in any MacBook Pro, iMac Intel Core Duo, Power Mac G5, iMac G5, a 1.25 GHz or faster PowerBook G4, or a 1.25 GHz or faster flat-panel iMac.
So you won't be able to install Motion.
Mac OS X 10.4.4 or later
QuickTime 7.0.4 or later
4GB of disk space to install all applications
Additional 42GB to install all optional templates, loops, content, and tutorials (may be installed on separate discs)
DVD drive for installation
Playback of DVD Studio Pro 4-authored HD DVDs requires a PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor
Replication of DVD Studio Pro 4-authored DVDs requires a DLT drive
Recommended Graphics Cards: ATI Radeon X850 XT, ATI Radeon X800 XT, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, ATI Radeon 9600 XT or 9600 Pro, ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, ATI Mobility Radeon 9600, NVIDIA GeForce Quadro FX 4500, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT NVIDIA GeForce 6600 and 6600 LE, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL, NVIDIA GeForce Go5200 or FX 5200 Ultra
And recommended Graphic Cards is just what it says: recommended. It's not required, like with Motion. But with these cards everything will run faster, and real-time stuff will run great.

Network Setup of Apple Extreme behind Pace DSL Model model 4111N

All,
I am doing work at my CEO's house on his wireless network. They have ATT as their DSL service and 5-6 Apple express access points.
They now want a guest network in the house. I need to figure out the following:
1. Is there a way for the Apple Extreme to be able to use guest network if DHCP is shut off on that device. I have tried multiple times, but it appears DHCP is needed for the guest network.
2. If I have to use DHCP on the apple extreme, Any thoughts on how to disable on the ATT router? I talked with support for ATT and they said I need a static IP, which may be correct, but wanted to see if anyone else had any experience with this first.
Any help is appreciated here.
Shane

System Preferences/Internet & Network/Network
Unlock the padlock
Locations: Automatic
Highlight Airport
Click the Assist Me button
In the popup window click the Diagnostic button.
System Preferences/Network- Unlock padlock. Highlight Airport. Network Name-select your name. Click on the Advanced button. Airport/Preferred Networks-delete all that is not your network.
Place a check mark next to "Remember networks this computer has joined." Click the OK button and lock the padlock. Restart your computer.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1920 Mac OS: How to release and renew a DHCP lease
No internet connection (wireless)
Check to see if an extra entry is present in the DNS Tab for your wireless connection (System Preferences/Network/Airport/Advanced/DNS).
Delete all extra entries that you find.
Place a check mark next to "Remember networks this computer has joined."
Troubleshooting a network printer
My week old MBP
You have 14 days from the date of purchase to return your computer or exchange. Something to think about if your issue turns out to be an hardware issue.
You can also call Apple tech support as you have 90 days of free phone support.

Update 7.1 busted my Apple Extreme

I have 2 apple extreme. The first one used as the main router, the second one used to extend the network to my third floor. I did the 7.1 update on both. They both are "sort of working", except that I cannot enter the configuratin of the main router any more. The "extended" one is fine. On the main one, if I try to do manual setup or use the wizard, the window stay on the "reading base station configuration screen" forever and I cannot get to the configuration screens.
help!

I have 2 apple extreme. The first one used as the
main router, the second one used to extend the
network to my third floor. I did the 7.1 update on
both. They both are "sort of working", except that I
cannot enter the configuratin of the main router any
more. The "extended" one is fine. On the main one, if
I try to do manual setup or use the wizard, the
window stay on the "reading base station
configuration screen" forever and I cannot get to the
configuration screens.
help!
I'm an experienced Mac user and I've not been happy with the 801.11n base station at all.
I purchased the base station about 10 days ago. Generally I've found it unreliable, unstable, and very hard to configure.
I've spent a total of around 2 hours on the phone with Apple support, only to abandon my original configuration (Extreme plus 1 Express) because the Apple Tech could not make it work even when I followed the provided documentation (he also told me my configuration, Airport Extreme in bridge mode plus Home Router, wasn't supported).
My base station seems even more quirky after this update. I had to remove all security and make my wireless network "closed" just to get clients to be able to see it.
I thought this was supposed to be simple to set-up and use. So far, it's been anything but...
Power Mac G5 dual 2.0 gHz Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Using 2 Apple Extreme's

Hi,
Here is my situation: I have a GigE Apple Extreme on the 1st floor, while my laptop is on the 2nd floor. On the 2nd floor, I usually get about 4MB/sec at best, while right in front of the router, I get about 7.5MB/sec.
The question is: if I buy a second GigE Apple Extreme, can I link them up (extend?) so as to achieve a speed closer to 7.5MB/sec? My goal is to get at least a constant 6MB/sec.

My configuration with two AEBSn:
AliMac wired <--> AEBSn <--> wireless <--> AEBSn <--> wired MacMini
(all machines 10.5.2, AEBSn gigabit latest firmware 5GHz only n mode)
My problem: from AliMac to Mini the transfer rate is about 2 MB/sec. In the other direction from Mini to AliMac it's only about 100 kB/sec.
This is the slow direction (Mini to AliMac). The AEBSn seems unable to establish a stable connection
And here it is much faster like it must be (AliMac to Mini)
There are no interferences or problems with channels. I replaced well working AP Express and AEBS snow by two AEBSn.
Any expert here with an idea how to get the bridge mode working in both directions?

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