Apple G4 PowerBook Aluminium m880 startup intermittent.

Hi all, I have an old PowerBook with no battery installed. It has been fine up until last week when it would not respond to the power button. Last night it powered up, but shut down after 15 mins. When I say shut down, it was like pulling the power cord out, so total power failure. It would not start back up after this. Today i tried it and it powered up again. It says the date is set before march 24, 2001 etc. I have tried my iBook adapter on it too, no difference.
Is this an internal battery thing? I took the back off the computer to see if I could see the pram battery, but could not.
Any help would be greatly welcomed.
Best wishes, Tom.

Hi Thomas.
I think we need to figure out your exact model of PowerBook, as people here are having to guess around the various models. We know you have a 15-inch but I can't get "m880" to return a vaild model number. It might help to know the version fo teh Mac OS your are running.
Get the computer running and then select "About this Mac" from the Apple menu. In the resulting window, click the "More Info..." button to auto-launch System Profiler.
The first Profiler screen has a precise identfier code as the second line of data. Depending on the OS, this line starts with "Machine Model" or "Model Identifier." The entry will start with PowerBook" folowed by a pair of numbers separated by a comma/ Example: my 17-inch 1Ghz PowerBook returns a Machine Model (in Tiger) of "PowerBook5,1"
Find this code and post it for us and we can be much more specific in recommendations. DO NOT post the computer serial number that appears on the same screen.
Replacing the PRAM battery is not an easy task unless you are familiar with notebook computer innards and the associtaed tiny and easily-broken parts. It behoove you to get through this without having to repalce the PRAM battery.
My internal battery is shot but many of the problems I had went away when I got a new main battery. Mine wil not start on AC power alone, or if the battery is run down. It will, however, start after a couple of minutes with a drained battery as long as it's plugged into wall power.
It is possible to breath a little life into a flat PRAM bater by leaving the computer off with the main battery removed for 24-48 hours.
Still I think you need to consider a new main battery of you plan to continue using the computer. Apple stopped selling PowerBook batteries this year so you're looking for a third-party solution. Don't know what the resources for those items are in the UK.

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This is not difficult, but you may want to give it a shot when your feel you have a few moments where you can attempt something new and not stress too much.
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