Apple id too long for icloud

trying to set up my icloud mail account and want to use my apple id... but it says its too long and cannot use... Ideas

I should just use the Gmail address to create a new Apple ID at http://appleid.apple.com and then use that to create your iCloud account. You will then log into iCloud with that, and the forums and presumably iTunes with the old ID, and that won't cause any conflicts.
You can even bypass the GMail address and create an iCloud account which has its @icloud.com address as the ID, as descibed here:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/22283348#22283348
However I would suggest that there are advantages to the ID being a separate address in case of problems with the account where Apple need to contact you.

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