Apple Intermediate Codec on QT Pro for PC

On a computer with Windows XP, will *QuickTime Pro for PC* play videos created in Final Cut with the *Apple Intermediate Codec*? And will it allow the user to convert them to other formats? I wish to recommend purchasing and downloading QuickTime Pro for PC to someone, but first need to know if it will play such videos. Does anyone know?

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Can't import HDV unless I set it for Apple Intermediate Codec

I cannot import my HDV video for the life of me. I see it on the screen, I hit capture "clip," and it appears to be capturing fine, but when I'm done, the clips in the browser show the red line crossing through them and say "offline" when I try to play them.
And when I hit "Capture Now," I don't get anything at all.
Actually, I do get a clip that is approximately 1 second long that captures the last second of my video. The literal last second. So I capture one second that I'm actually trying to stop the video on.
So I try Apple Intermediate Codec. It works PERFECT now!
Only thing is, I would like to use HDV instead, because isn't it better quality?
Plus it's just bugging me that I can't understand why I can't import on HDV settings. Why would it not capture a single frame except for the last second or two?
I guessing it's timecode related, but the timecode seems to be continuous. Scenes do change where the camera was turned off and on, but the timecode is continuous.
Thanks everyone for listening.

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Hi(Bonjour)!
How did you convert to ProRes 422?
ProRes 422 codec is a part of final cut studio 2.
FCE HD cannot edit nor render in ProRes like Final Cut Pro. You material havs to be NTSC, PAL or AVCHD and HDV (converted to Apple Intermediate Codec).
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x

Upgrade to Leopard seems to have broken Apple Intermediate Codec

I recently upgraded my Macbook Pro to Leopard (clean install). Before doing so I made a bootable backup on my firewire drive (which I still have).
Prior to the new install I was able to playback files encoded with Apple Intermediate Codec (And the Codec also appeared in the drop down menu of supported CCodecs for export as I have Quicktime Pro). Now on my machine if I playback an AI file I get audio with no video and the CODEC does not appear in the export options.
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on both my old backed up OS and the new leopard but could not see the CODEC in either location (is it stored elsewhere)?
Stored in the root library folder on mine -- i.e., not the System folder. "~/Library/QuickTime/AppleIntermediateCodec.component"

I can only import HDV with Apple Intermediate Codec!!!!

Hello,
I want to get to the bottom of this. I have HDV film shot on a DV tape. I cannot import this HDV footage, it appears to be importing, but the moment I hit "escape" to stop capture, I realize nothing was actually importing. I usually end up with a second of captured footage, ironically, it's of the second that I stopped capture on. So I capture my last second.
Of course, if I change my setting to Apple Intermediate Codec, it works fine.
I'm using Final Cut Pro 5 on a G5 that hasn't been online in a while. Maybe I just need some 'updates?"
Or is this a Final Cut Pro 5 issue since it came out when HDV was relatively new on the scene?
Should I upgrade to Final Cut Pro 6, cut that make importing HDV easier for me?
This footage I don't mind converting to Intermediate Codec, but in the future I'd like to not have to do this.
Anyone know what causes this?
Thanks!

You should be able to do it fine in 5.0 as well as 5.1.
I have been capturing HDV since August of 2006, long before FCP 6. Make sure you use a camera that is supported, for HDV is not a standard the way DV is. It is MPEG 2 out of the box. So when you capture you are in for a bit of a ride editing HDV on FCP 5. It can be done, but you are better to take a page from Shane's book and capture to DVCPro HD instead. It takes up much more space, but you will have no headache editing and outputting later.
Hope this helps.
Matt

Frame rate problems with Apple Intermediate Codec.

Hi,
I have just upgraded to a new Mac Pro and FCE 4.1.
I went to carry on working with an existing FCE HD file. It loaded and updated fine.
When the project was played back it appeared jumpy and too fast.
I looked at the clip properties and the FPS for the project was at 32!! I'm working in 25 fps.
Its as if FCE is interpreting the movie files as 32 FPS
When the clips are played back in quicktime they are at 25 fps as normal.
The clips are AIC 1440 x 1080i.
I tried it on a new project and the same thing happened.
Other codecs like DV seem to be OK.
Has anyone had this problem before and know of a solution.
I have done all the usual disk repairs and the like. Next will be a re-install.

Hi(Bonjour)!
It's a must to use the correct setup in easy setup dialog to fit your shooted material on tape.
Here's the trail to follow if you want to edit in HD (by the way the FX1Ecan shoot in HD mode or standard definition DV- mode: wide or standard screen).
On your FX1E
-find the camera menu and set the recording format to HDV (it sould be 1080i50 as it's the HDV format used by this model).
-Set the output format to automatic or 1080i50 (this is the type of signal that will be outputed by your camcorder upon capture via firewire).
-turn off you camcorder and mac.
-Plug both devices with a firewire cable.
-turn on the FX1E AND the mac.
-Start FCE HD
In Final Cut Express HD
-Use "Easy Setup..." command in Final Cut express menu , select HD in format tab, 29.97 in rate tab and HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i50. Click "Setup" button.
-From this point, any new sequences and capture session will occur in Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i50 (the format used to edit in HDV).
-Use command-8 to open the capture window. HDV is captured via a simple dialog. There are no capture setings or log clips info.
-Start your camcorder in *VCR mode*(the play button on camcorder or on remote) and click the capture now button into FCE HD.
NOTES: there is no sound from your MAC upon capturing. There is a lag time between what is played on your cam and what you can see on your mac screen, so use the camcorder screen to monitor the content.
-Hit the "ESC" key when you want to stop the capturing process.
Once the esc key is pressed, your mac will continu to process the captured material and the capture window should close.
That's the way to capture HDV material into FCE HD.
Michel Boissonneault

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Hi,
I just got my copy of Final Cut Pro 6.
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You need a video IO card to transcode the signal to another format on capture - you're just connecting the camera via Firewire, yes?
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Apple intermediate codec VS apple fcp uncompressed 8 bit 4:2:2

i'm still very new here.
have FCE and therefore don't have apple pro res.
i'm getting mixed suggestions as to what format to use for highest quality.
i get better results playing back apple intermediate codec in FCE but want to know if its quality is as good as apple fcp uncompressed 8 bit?
ultimately want to output as quicktime H.264
thanks

"but don't i Want HD? i'm shooting with the canon 5D M2."
Yes, you do. But how would I know that you're shooting in HD or that you're using this camera? The Apple uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2 codec is only used with standard definition media.
BTW, FCE is not the best application to work with this camera as it shoots in a non-standard video frame rate. Your media would have to be converted to QuickTime using AIC at 29.97 with uncompressed 48k audio. FCP allows you to create a sequence preset in 30fps, the frame rate used by this model.

Apple Intermediate Codec, Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 where can i get format from.

Apple Intermediate Codec, Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 where can i get the format from.

AIC is an Apple QuickTime codec and is only available on Apple platforms. It is an all-iFrame format and is normally used for high def video (HDV and AVCHD). FCE automatically transcodes HDV and AVCHD video into QuickTime/AIC when you capture/ingest the video from your camcorder.
AIC supports 16:9 aspect ratio, 8-bit 4:2:0 and can handle variable data rates. Supported frame sizes/rates are 720p30, 1080i50 and 1080i60. There is a bit more info in this article: Final Cut Pro 5: About HDV and Apple Intermediate Codec.
You asked this question in the Final Cut Express Forum. FCE can't use 10-bit 4:2:2 video, nor can it use Apple ProRes. For 10-bit 4:2:2 suppport you would need ProRes and Final Cut Studio.

Strange Problem capturing with Apple Intermediate Codec

We have the following problem:
We capture with a blackmagic decklink studio card (but I could reproduce the same problem using a MacBook Pro and the internal camera) with a MacPro and CS4. When capturing a live video feed (1280x720) with the apple intermediate codec (set to 29.97fps or to 59.94fps) everything seems to work just fine. But the resulting videoclips happen to be exactly ONE half of the total capture time. So if we capture in Premiere for about 1 our the clip is only 30 minutes long. If we capture for 10 sec., the clip will be 5 sec. long. It's not that the captured clips play with double the framerate. Half of the actual footage is missing.
Any suggestions?
By the way: we live in a PAL50Hz country, but our video signal that needs to be recorded comes in as a 60hz signal.

Hi,
Well I did some googling...and I would bet that the problem is the 50hz vs 60hz...
Unfortunately most if not all info I got that even BRUSHES on this subject with the sort of material you're dealing with is the opposite....where they are in 60cycle land with pal stuff....rather than in pal land dealing with 60hz ...
This is a lot of misc stuff but if you get a little bit of info from various posts and make some notes you might be able to get an idea how to solve the problem...
In particular I was looking at how frames are flagged and new frames are created later ...( toward very end of these posts - the last four or so )
Also noted some timecode reading that was "doubled"....so if your deck thought you had a specific length and then it read the timecode doubled, it would be your problem in a nutshell... have you checked the last frame you captured and compare that timecode to the overall length ??
anyway, here is a TON of stuff to breeze through...good luck...
THIS IS EDIUS RELATED..so keep in mind re: specific presets etc
Steve Sherrick
03-03-2008, 11:14 AM
Hi chaps,
Can I just confirm that the SDI/HDMI outputs are only live in build 14? I'm on 13 and going SDI - HDLINK - DELL24" gives me nothing. I'm in PAL land so have tried switching between 50hz and 59hz in camera.
So do I need build 14 or is it something else?
Cheers
Jeff Brown
#708
I'm in NTSC land but that same setup gives me picture just fine. Which Dell model is it? Is everything set up right from the camera side?
Jeff Brown
03-04-2008, 12:42 PM
Hi Steve,
I believe so. Set to Preview in th viewfinder settings, plugged in on preview mini sdi, cam set to 50hz..
Anything I'm missing?
Cheers
To counter this, the AJ-HD1400 offers two modes specifically for this called '25(SD)' and '25(HD)'. They output the 25fps signal with new timecode on a 50Hz carrier (only over SDI/Analogue the Firewire doesn't work in that mode).
It only works with 25fps material too, any other 'offspeed' rate has to be dealt with separately with the deck operating in 59/60 mode.
When operating in either of these 25 modes, the deck generates new 25fps timecode from the tape (although our tests have indicated that it is frame accurate of multiple playback passes).
Basically, Varicam, while a very nice idea, has only ever been properly designed to work in a 60Hz environment. It is pretty much a nightmare in 50Hz environments.
I think I may have found the cause of the problem.
For some reason when I started my project it had a Device Control profile set to 720p50 (rather than the 1080i50 that the deck is operating in).
What this seems to have done is double the frame number on any clip it encountered. So if I took a clip with in marked at 01:02:40:22 and dropped it in the Log and Capture tool the In Point that FCP decided to look for was 01:02:40:44 (which isn't going to exist on a 25fps timecode obviously).
Since you are using Pal
Go :
Generic OHCI HD 50hz -> 960x720 25p over 60p
Because if I am right you can't do Pal over 60hz but you can do PAL over 60P at 50hz.
( but I could be wrong)
But the other problem is that you are using an ntsc profile to capture pal recorded footage.
50 hz 960x720 over 60P yields a frame rate of 25 progressive
60 hz 960x720 59.94p yields a frame rate of 59.94 progressive which is far from your original footage . Mostly used for countries using natively ntsc
Neither myself, nor Ricksta (I don't think) are using NTSC-rate profiles.
The Preset setting I've been testing with is:
Generic OHCI HD 50Hz 960x720 25p over 60p
Indeed, I've just tried what Rick mentioned, and with the deck in 59.94Hz operating frequency, I can capture with all three 720p 59/60 input settings. This is technically wrong however, as the tape has been recorded at 60Hz. But like I said before, until Rick hears from the big geeks at Panasonic about this, I don't know what the real outcome of that difference in frequency is.
I've also tried a 50p over 60p project setting (as 720p50 is what I will be editing with in Avid) - but, predictably, this works but gives me double-speed footage. Which, while amusing, isn't a lot of help for me
A large part of the problem I'm facing here is to do with the Varicam format. It will record any framerate from 1-60fps. It has to operate and a system-frequency of 59.94Hz or 60Hz. That is what Rick and I are referring to. The limitation I face is that the Varicam format is not widely supported for PAL-based rates (25/50) as it requires communication with a deck operating in an NTSC-based system frequency (either 60Hz or 59.94Hz). This difference (between project/timeline framerates, and deck operating frequencies) is enough to ensure that IEEE1394/Firewire/OHCI capture is not possible in these modes in Final Cut Pro, Avid (any version) or any other NLE I have found.
We realise that the framerate and frequency we're working in has to be 50-based, and we're not making any mistakes in that respect.
So far Edius is the only NLE on the market, that I have been able to find, that supports Firewire capture from 60Hz DVCPro HD material in a 50Hz based framerate.
When you have captured the file in that project select a clip in the bin press alt+enter go to video info and tell me what the framerate is .
In a 50p over 60p project, when I capture footage shot 25p over 60 with the 'Constant Rate' capture profile I get a clip in the bin that is 50fps, but that plays at doubletime - which is what I'd expect.
I can change the framerate in the properties to 50fps, and it plays at the correct rate, but I'm not happy with the way to refactors the timing in that mode. It seems to create interpolated frames to fill the gaps, which provide an unusual appearance that I don't really like.
At present if I capture into 25p over 60p project, then import the resulting 25p footage into Avid, Avid doubles up the frames to produce 50fps material.
Some clarification here. The Varicam does indeed record at a constant 60fps. If the frame rate is set to 25fps for example it simply flags the active frames. This flag is carried in the vertical interval data. The reason for this system, is as suggested, it is very difficult to vary the speed of tape in a helical scan recording system. With the advent of solid state recording that Panasonic introduced in the AG-HVX200 it is now possible of course to only record the active (native) frames and this would be called 25pn for example.
Originally with the Varicam you used to use a device called a Frame Rate Converter. This box contained a hard drive with HD-SDI I/O. It would recognize the active "flagged" frames in the incoming signal and buffer them through the hard drive and then play them out at the correct frame rate.
More recently NLE's such as Avid, FCP and Edius have incorporated this flagged frame recognition and perform the extraction automatically. Thus when I tested a 25fps Varicam ingest on a 25 Frame timeline I am getting realtime playback. If I had recorded at 50fps and I placed that on a 25 frame timeline I would have very smooth half speed. Also the newer DVCPRO HD decks such as the AJ-HD1700 and AJ-HD1400 have the ability to decode "on-speed" frame rates such as 30fps, 25fps and 24fps.
The issue that Dylan is facing is that the NLE's will not accept a firewire input at 60Hz, they only accept it at 59.94, this is a .001 frequency difference and should be negligible. The other alternative is to ingest via HD-SDI via a Black Magic or AJA Kona card etc. These boards also support the variable frame rate function.
I hope that this helps clear things up a little.
Rick Haywood
Manager Broadcast & Display Systems
Panasonic New Zealand Ltd.
Further to what Rick is saying... The issues with most NLEs for PAL users is the disparity between the 59.94/60Hz operating frequency of the deck and the 50Hz based framerates the applications are working with in PAL framerates.
As for the constant 60fps - it is indeed recording 60 images per second to a tape, but as I said before, only a certain number are unique - only the flagged frames. In 25fps, the camera samples the sensor 25 times a second and records that frame to tape. Essentially you get frame 1 recorded for 2 frames, frame 2 recorded for the next three frames, frame 3 recorded for 2 frames, etc... The first frame with each unique image is 'flagged'. To rebuild the recorded framerate, only the flagged images are captured.
The big bonus of Edius for me here is that it can capture the PAL framerates from the 59.94Hz deck over Firewire directly. Something that Avid and FCP are unable to do.

Capture HD with AVCHD apple intermediate codec

I have captured video from my Canon xha1 previously. Today I went to capture some video. I have my presets to HD with avchd apple intermediate codec. When I go to capture I receive the message "capture preset must have video or an audio digitizer set to capture. Please change the desired preset in the audio/video settings. I go back to system settings and the "audio capture" is not highlighted. I'm not sure if this is how I set the capture preset or if there is something else I am looking for. Any advise is greatly appreciated.

Hi Tom,
The camera settings are on HDV/DV. I haven't changed the setting, that I am aware of. I have tried a few easy set up settings. Last night I set to all formats and HDV. I was able to import video but not audio came through. I also tried HD with HDV or AVCD and received the message about needing a digitized audio preset. Today I received the message my deck could not be recognized. I loaded the footage into imove hd just to check my firewire. Video and audio both came through. Interestingly enough when I tried to import an imovie hd into fce, I received an error message. So my problem went from bad to worse. The other devices connected to my imac is an external hard drive and a printer. In the system profiler my camera is listed under the firewire device tree.
I am going to call Apple again tonight. I have only had this machine a month. So I am not very experienced with what can go wrong. But I guess I'm learning. By the way I have enjoyed your tutorial. I have learned a lot.
Thanks,
Jamie

When to use Apple Intermediate Codec -v- NTSC ???

OK,
After successfully creating two projects - one for YouTube and another on DVD - I found myself in a slump when 3 succeeding projects wouldn’t upload properly to YouTube.
After doing some troubleshooting with people who “might” know what the problem is, it seems the issue with my 4:3 SD uploads was compression. Somewhere, supposedly I had compressed the footage within FCE, and when uploaded to YouTube (which compresses it further) it just wouldn’t work at all (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3DonNt7B08). Somewhere, somehow, I did something in FCE that is prohibiting this video from playing properly (but it plays fine in QuickTime).
I still have no answer as to why 16:9 HD footage wouldn’t upload, unfortunately, so I’ve since removed it. That video failed to upload on YouTube at all; whereas my initial effort went flawlessly. It took forever, but it uploaded fine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhIDIsZ9i7E).
Anyway, back to the point. I’m ready to go for another run of capturing footage from my Canon XHA1, and I want to make sure I have the proper setting(s) within FCE so that when I’m capturing footage to my computer, where I can edit it for final viewing, it comes out non-compressed.
Where do I start? In Easy Setup for example, there are just too many options for me to know what the heck I’m supposed to use (other than PAL, which I believe was European?).
I thought on my initial video that I had used “Apple Intermediate Codec”. What does this mean exactly?
So far, I’ve chosen the following:
FORMAT - Apple Intermediate Codec
RATE - 29.97
USE - HDV Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60
After choosing this “Easy Setup” (in Preferances), I then go to File > New Project. Right away, it asks me to “Select Sequence Preset”, with some 16 options being given. Must these options jive with what I selected in “Easy Setup”?
Is there some way that FCE or my iMac are reading my camera through the Firewire & determining specifications?
Any help appreciated, thanks.

As Tom says, you have to select "HD" first.
The number "60" at the end of the preset shows that it is NTSC. PAL ends in a "50".
I don't know about YouTube but when I upload HDV to Vimeo I do this:-
Select File>Export>Using QuickTime Conversion.
Click the Options button and select Settings.
Make sure that Compression Type is H.264
Leave Quality on High and set Encoding to Faster. You may think this will not give the best quality, but I doubt if you will see any difference but your files will encode twice as fast.
In the Data Rate section insert Restrict to 5000 kbits/sec.
Click OK and then click the Size button.
In the Dimensions, select 1280 x 720 HD from the dropdown menu. Some people click the deinterlace button. I don't and I have never had any problems . . . your choice. Then keep clicking OK until you get back to the Save window where you can Save your video.
As mentioned above these settings may not give you the theoretically best settings but you are unlikely to notice any difference and your files will encode much faster (or less slower!) and be much smaller.

Apple Intermediate Codec on QT Pro for PC

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