Apple loops issue

I recently updated to a new Macbook pro (OS X 10.9.5) from a 2007 imac running OS X 10.6.8.
I'm using Logic Pro 9, and have done for the last few years. Now that I have installed Logic 9 into my new mac, downloaded additional content, and moved all the memory intensive content to an external hard drive, I find that a few things look a bit different:
Channel strips settings are structured differently. For example I no longer see Jam Pack Symphony Orchestra sounds , but I have to access them through 'Shared Garageband settings on my Mac'. Is there any reason for this. Can I retrieve my old layout? I just knew where everything was.........
Perhaps more importantly, I notice that Apple loops now incorporate the following categories:
01 Hip Hop
02 Electro House
03 Dubstep
04 Modern RnB
05 Tech House
06 Deep House
07 Chillwave
Trouble is, that while all of the loops exist in .caf form on my hard drive, more than half of them don't play. The ones that don't play have no content, showing a negligible size (eg 8KB) as opposed to the ones which do play, which tend to be above 200Kb. An examination of the wave form of these non playing files show that nothing is there!
Does anyone know what has gone wrong, and/or whether I can get the missing files from anywhere?
I also have no idea where these have come from in my migration from one computer/operating system to another.......
If anyone could help I would much appreciate it.
Macbook Pro 2.2 Ghz Intel Core i7
16Gb 100Mhz DDR3 ram
OS X 10.9.5
Logic Pro 9.1.8
Metric Halo I/O 2882

If anyone could at least tell me that they possess the following loops as part of Logic Pro 9:
01 Hip Hop
02 Electro House
03 Dubstep
04 Modern RnB
05 Tech House
06 Deep House
07 Chillwave
Are they complete? Do they all work?
Cheers

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I'm trying to re index my loop browser in LP9 / OSX10.6.1
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After trashing the 'Apple Loop Index', I pull in a folder from an external drive and notice that previous folders added to my browser have gone, including Jam Packs.
Also, I can't find the 're-index' option within the loop browser search option (right click brings down a list but the re-index option isn't there)
Interested to see whet you find.

Yep, I also had issues, where indexing the LP8 way (dragging folders with loops from the Finder onto the Logic loop browser) just bluffed to work (I dropped the folder on the LB, a progress window appeared, things apparently got done, but then nothing, no new entries in the Loop Browser.
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I finally decided to put all my loops in their default install locations and reindex them from there:
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Jam Pack Voices
Jam Pack World Music
*Library/Audio/Apple Loops/iLife Sound Effects:*
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for thorough reindexing, here are the steps:
1. Quit Logic and/or any other app that uses Apple Loops.
2. Go to all the locations I pointed out and trash all the index files from the *Apple Loops Index* folders. Also check the same locations in your Users/'you'/Library folder.
3. Start Logic with a new empty project, open the loop browser window by hitting the o key. Now drag the folders mentioned above in bold onto your loop browser. Logic should now index them correctly, including the foldermenu !http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4085966954bf4fc039d7o.png! in the loop browser.
regards, Erik.

HT200183 If I wanted to include apple loops in the assets of Logic project folders that are part of a tutorial available for download on a paid educational website would that be ok?

If I wanted to include apple loops in the assets of Logic project folders that are part of a song that follows a tutorial available for download on a paid educational website would that be ok? No one would be paying for the file itself that's part of the membership. I don't want to get into any copyright problems. I understand that they are royalty free and you can include them in your music no problem but the individual loops would be in the audio folder if I saved all the assets to the project file.
Also, would it be ok to include screen shots I take myself of apple programs in my downloadable content?
Just trying to figure out exactly how I should go about it to avoid any legal issues.

Hi
trainedmind wrote:
No one would be paying for the file itself that's part of the membership. I don't want to get into any copyright problems.
My gut reaction is that you may well run into © issues if you re-distribute the original AppleLoops.If your customers are paying for the training, they are also paying for the content you provide, so I feel that you would be re-selling the loops.
Given that anyone who has a copy of Logic would likely have installed all the loop content, there should be no need to distribute them with the project files. Alternatively, make your own loops.
CCT

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Greetings,
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Ouch.... That's a real bummer.
I would recommend trying the "re-conversion" with just a few loops and seeing how it works for you. I've had to do this before as well. I had a library from L7 that I had converted using ALU inside L8's arrange window. For some reason, the loops that I had never used in that project that I had converted were not converted after I deleted the project that I used them in... make sense? not to me either....
The whole Apple Loop Utility is awesomely useful sometimes and buggy to the point of frustration at others....
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Converting Acid Apple Loops -great App.!!!

Sample Manager does this perfectly! Once your Acid .wav files are converted to 44.1kHz aif Apple Loops with correct tempo & beat information, you can then load the files into the Apple Loops Utility for batch or individual tagging (genre/Instrument etc.). Once this is done & you've saved the results, you will have a new set of Apple Loops which you can drag onto the Loop Browser and they will be indexed perfectly.
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STLU is that is places the loops in a folder entitled "Converted to Aiff"
I honestly didn't find that an issue. The folder was created within the folder which had contained the bunch of loops (AFAIR). And since the loops were now tagged, all I was doing was dropping them into the loop browser where they were sorted, searchable, and fully accessible.
Then again, this was not much more than an experiment well over a year and a half ago <shrug>
--HangTime [Will Compute for Food] B-)>

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I have a drum brushes loop that I exported in WIN7/Audition, saved as wav and moved over the my mac. Then I dragged it into LPX, found the correct exact tempo manually (60bpm) in order to make an Apple Loop. Couldn't do it with the wav so saved it as an aiff from within LPX. LPX sees the "tempo information" (not really) and then was able to drag into Apple Loops browser, still, didn't create the tempo meta data or whatever it does to allow me to stretch it. I drag the re-indexed loop on an audio track and it's juts the same 60 bpm loop. Changing my global tempo does not alter the tempo of the loop.
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OK that works insofar as it saves the file with no issues and I can drag into the track area (does say there is time data to import- "YES") but it doesn't change with global tempo changes.
Also maybe there is a problem with the index? I deleted the other attempts from User Loops >SingleFiles folder but LPX still is searching for the file at every index.
So two problems now:
index still looks for older files
ALU is saving but LPX not changing tempo of Apple Loop
I read the manual re: file type.
The File Type tag determines if an application treats a file as a looping or non-looping file. Looping files are matched to the project tempo and key— if the Key tag is set to a value other than None. Non-looping files are not matched to the project tempo or key. (Untagged files added to a project are treated as non-looping.)
When I choose "Looping" in ALU, it changes the sound drastically which although would give tempo stretch, is probably ties to it thinking it's 120 bpm (and not 60)?
Yet it was recorded at 60 bpm.
The catch-22 is that the ALU can't recognize my tempo and if I change it (via choosing "looping", the only way to correct the beats btw) it messes with the sound because it's twice as fast.
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First off, specs:
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Third Party Apple Loops not being shown in Loop Browser.

Hey Everyone!
I posted this in the GB forum but nobody answered... maybe here someone can shed some light on this issue.
I am a quite experienced user of GB, Logic and Soundtrack, and usually I find the workarounds for these kind of problems but I'm stumped here.
-I've recently got 4 Big Fish "JamPacks" with a lot of apple loops (they were purchased as "apple loops" and they came in a folder called "apple loops")
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Hello Apostolos S. Makedon,
It may be helpful to review this article concerning Apple loops and rights issues:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2931
Thank you for contributing to Apple Support Communities.
Cheers,
BobbyD

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i am in the loop browser IN logic
when i click all it says roughly 13,000
here is the catch, i am trying to move all of my loops, voices, instruments, read/write over to my 7200rpm 1TB External
when i go to library/audio/apple loops, only some are there but not all
For example, when i am in a project and i search in the loop browser 808 (for a drum loop) it appears
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Hi Huemanbing.F.O.I,
Welcome to the Support Communities!
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Logic Pro and Express: Rebuilding the Loop Index
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3443?viewlocale=en_US
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Let me know how it went if you do
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system Read/Write
admin Read/Write
everyone read Only
and a PPC shows
me
system
admin
others
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Kirby

EastcoasterWestcoaster wrote:
All of the external HD's are set to "ignore permissions for this volume" so permissions shouldn't be an issue.
Wrong!
this could be the problem...
Permission must be active
Logic studio require license... so require permission
if the external drive as set to ignore permussion logic will never index a folder without ownreship
you need to pay for Apple Loops
they are not free
they are included in Logic Studio or you need to BUY JamPacks as individual DVD expansion...
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*you need to create a Alias folder of all contents after installing Logic in the original location... than move that folder original on external drive.... and than you must delete de alias suffis on orther tha the folder must have the same permission as original.... It must be located in the same original location*

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