Apple loops shrinks creating a gap when Flex mode is on

I've notice this happens me always with any apple loop.
when drag to the arrange window, it behaves at it should, (say, 8 beats, occupy 2 measures and loop correctly),
after flex is applied on that same track/loop, it shortens and doesn't loop correctly leaving a gap at the end as you can see in the bottom screen I've sent.
I would like to preserve the length of the loop, after applying Flex mode too.
This is happening independently if I import loop tempo or not, and in two other machines at the studio.
What can cause this?
Can you please tell me what prefs I have to turn on or off, so the loop behaves has it should.
Thank you
(Logic X last version)

Here's a link of a small video with the issue I'm experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw9zWl6gJbg
Anyone?

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