Apple Loops Utility

I processed my first third party wav loops with ALU...some weirdness. I was able to drag both into the loops library but they showed up with tempos that I did not change them to. One showed at 82 bpm and the other at 114.11something. They were both at 120 originally and I did not change that. Also one was 4 beats the other 64??? They both played in the media window but strangely the faster tempo loop (64 beats) was painfully slow and the one at 82 (4 beats) sounded more like 120. Then I placed them in the project. There was audio at first but then no audio with either and they would not loop.
After following several threads in the ALU discussion, I'm about to conclude that trying to work with third party loops may be a waste of my time.
I want and need traditional beats in varied time signatures, so I'm very anxious to know exactly what is on the Jam Pack rhythm section and world beat.

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Tempo setting when creating Apple Loops (Utility)

Having chopped a long audio file (drum track) into exact bar/beat settings, saved as separate audio files, I'm having trouble with tempo settings when creating Loops in Apple Loops Utility.
The problem is that after saving a looped file (from the Utility), upon loading that loop file into the Utility again, the (interpreted) tempo of the file is now doubled, which really screws up playback and placement of the loop file.
For example, my original tempo is 72bpm. I save the files as Looping, with the correct number of beats for each file (4 for a 1 bar file, 8 for 2 bars, etc.), and the tempo in the info section on the right side of the Utility correctly shows 72bpm. After saving the file as a loop, and then opening it again in the Utility, suddenly the tempo shows 144, and playback is at half speed.
Oddly, I was able to successfully do this to another track from a song at a faster tempo. In that case, the loop files open as expected. And I'm using exactly the same process this time... humm???
How can I get around this?

mmGhost wrote:
Hi, thanks for the tip.
In this case, I have not added the loop to the loop library. Therefore it is not in the browser.
If I drag it from the audio bin, however, sometimes it will work. Other times it does not. I cannot seem to find a "cause and effect" here.
Thanks.
What version of Logic are you running. It works fine for me on Logic 9.1.3 in 32-bit mode. I seem to remember having the same problem as you're experiencing in Logic 8.0.2

All drum loops in LE 8 are greyed out and Apple loops utility 'can't be installed'

Hi
I installed Logic Express 8 and have loads of loops missing, especially the drum loops.
Even the Apple loops utility is giving me problems. It looks like the Apple loops utility was installed (because I have the icon for it now), but everything inside that utility is greyed out. When I try to re-install it, i get the error message 'Apple Loops Utility can’t be installed on this computer. The specified message could not be found for the index 0.'
I have a new MAC Mini OS X 10.6.7
Help would be appreciated.
UPDATE: I have looked through other related discussions here but could not find the naswer.
I also just checked in /Library/Audio/Apple Loops/User Loops to see if the files are there and of course they are not.
In fact, funnily enough, there are 0 files in the apple loops (although I do have plenty of loops that do play in LE8, just not the drum loops), which is strange. Where are all the files?????
I also found the following interesting point in the discussions here:
'The standard installation doesn't install all the loops. You'll have to do a custom installation and check the GB extras.'
The problem is that I am never given any option to do a custom installation when I install. It only offers the normal installation mode.

Hi,
1. On the newer Macs, iLife 11 or so, only a part of the loops is being installed, and the other part must be downloaded via software update. GB will tell you so if you select a greyed out loop.
2. Loops should all be in "(your HD)/library/audio/apple loops/apple", not in the user library.
3. If you find the loops are installed there but aren't shown in LE or in GB, you might want to re-index the loops.
4. If loops are still missing after re-indexing, drag the loops folder straight above your loop browser and drop them there - this should add the missing loops.
Fox

APPLE LOOPS UTILITY GREYED OUT IN MY MENU

Hey all! Im using Logic Express 7. Im having trouble with my apple loops utility,ITS NOT THERE! For some strange reason its greyed out in the dropdown list. A friend of mine said i can install it(apple loops utility) from my apple os installations disk but when i load up the install disk i can fing it on the disk anywhere. what can i do?
MAC BOOK 1.2G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Its not in the Logic download from the app store, I'm afraid, this is a similar discussion that you may find helpful - bit of a muddle in communications, perhaps, but, anyway you can get Apple Loops Utility if you really need it -
https://discussions.apple.com/message/19752858#19752858

Apple Loop Utility doesn't work

Hi everyone,
I've been a GarageBand user for a while now and have been able to create custom loops with the Apple Loop Utility/Soundrack Loop Utility. The main problem is, that the version that I have (was using version 1.1, then downloaded version 1.3.1) won't work on my computer now, yet it did previously. When I try to launch the loop utility, a message pops up saying that 'Apple loop utility has quit unexpectedly. Click reopen to relaunch the application again.' So I did, and it still won't launch.
At that time I was using MacOS X 10.5.3, and now have recently upgraded to MacOS X 10.6.3. Is the program not compatible with Snow Leopard or intel Macs?
Thanks
Jamie

Well, I have never used version 1.3.1... (seems to be fairly old, regarding the number ?)
The download from the Apple Developer Website should be version 3.0.1...?
(have you tried that one...?)
http://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/wa/downloads
As far as I know, only version 1.4 should work natively with Intel Macs...?

Where can I get a copy of Apple Loops Utility?

I recently dowload Logic Pro 9 from the App Store and discovered that it does not include Apple Loops Utility. Anyone know where I can donload a copy ALU?

http://www.apple.com/logicpro/resources/ lists a number of resources where you can ask. On the resource page that utility is not specifically mentioned. You may also want to check out the Wikipedia article which references your utility at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Loops_Utility

Would anyone know where I can get or find the Apple Loops Utility??

Would anyone know where I can get or find the Apple Loops Utility??
I heard I can use the utlility with GB. Need to speed up some vocals/timestretch and someone said this program could work?
Any Oponions?
thanks, technoreid

you can also find it in your "ulitilty" folder located in the Applications folder.
I assume you have Logic installed or you'd be posting in the GB forum.

Apple Loops Utility does not work at all for imported file

I have imported an MP3 into Logic Pro 8, which converts it to an AIFF file, and am trying to configure the project to sync to that tracks tempo. From what I understand, I do this by opening it in the ALU and having it add tempo information to the file.
My problem is that when I open the file in the ALU, and I have version 2.0.1, literally almost NOTHING works. I can hit the play/stop/jump to start buttons and they work. However, the volume control does nothing. Likewise, the Tempo slider as well as the transpose dropdown don't do anything.
On the Transients tab, the Transient Division dropdown and Sensitivity slider are grayed out. Since I've never used this tool before, I would assume that this is how I get the utility to detect the beats in the song. The waveform view just shows the song waveform, with no markers as it does if I open an Apple Loop.
If I switch to the Tags tab, ever single checkbox is grayed out. Finally, if I go to the file menu, all Save options are grayed out.
My first thought, is of course, that I'm just an idiot and that I don't know what I'm doing. However, in searching the forum, I found this post from a year ago where someone is complaining about what seems to be the exact same problem, and they did not receive a single response.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8516386&#8516386
Any ideas on either how to get ALU to work or to get my project to sync to the MP3 without requiring the ALU?
Thanks!
Mark

In case you are importing a whole track you won't get the results you are expecting with ALU....
Under *File Type* in the Tags tab select Looping so that the Transients Division and the rest of the settings be active.
Hope this helps
A

Apple Loops Utility Question

Can you some how bring up the selected transient spots of a created apple loop into Logic for chopping purposes? then import them into an exs instrument? and if so will the chops adjust accordingly when the tempo is changed on the transport?
thanks
Dah

No,
If you want to do that , you need to get Recycle from Propellerheads.
The guys who make Reason,
With Recycle, you can open a Wave or Aiff file, make the slice markers and save it as a Rex file.
You can import a Rex file into EXS and do what you describe.

Homemade Apple Loops (w/Loops Utility) won't show up in Loop Browser

I just finished making a whole batch of homemade Apple Loops. Through Logic I opened up each audio file in the Apple Loops Utility, marked its tempo, marked "Looped" and then did the transients window to make sure it sounded good, then did "Save" or "Save All" from the Apple Loops Utility task tray.
I then dumped that folder full of custom loops into my loop browser for catalog'ing, but for some reason only about 10 of them show up when I click "All" to see all the loops in that folder.
So I re-opened the entire batch in Apple Loops Utility and made tiny changes to each loop's transients, just enough to trigger the dot next to the loop that means "you need to save these changes" - and I resaved the entire batch.
Tried the add-to-loop-browser process again, and again, only those initial 10 loops showed up in the browser again. The remaining 190 won't pop up.
I can't figure out what's missing or what I did wrong. Any ideas?
Kirby

FIXED!
If you run into this same problem:
In order for your homemade loops to show up in Logic's Loop Browser, when in the Apple Loops Utility you need to select at least one "Descriptor" - if you don't, the loop won't appear in the browser. Even if you don't need a Descriptor, just batch-select all of your loops in the tray and then pick 1 Descriptor, resave, and re-drop into Apple's Loop Browser.
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Some Apple Loops refuse to index when dropped onto the Loop Browser

I'm hoping somebody has a fix for this odd problem. Some of the Apple Loops which came with version 1.0.1 refuse to index via the loop browser.
First off, I had to re-install GarageBand 1.0.1 after an invalid library error message appeared after upgrading to Tiger. The re-install wasn't completed totally and it did the same thing on 2 attempts. The next error message was: Apple Loops are missing, or something to that effect. I had to install the Apple Loops found in HD->Library->Application Support->GarageBand by dropping them onto the GarageBand Loop Browser at the bottom of its window. It indexed them, they appeared, and I was happy.
Today, for some reason, I looked through the loops folder mentioned above and noticed about one third of the loops do not appear in the Loop Browser, naturally some really neat stuff is missing! So I decided to drag & drop these Apple loop files onto the browser individually. It says it's indexing them, althought the guitar icon in the dock jumps while doing so, but they never appear and don't show-up in the search box either. They can however be dropped onto the Timeline from the Finder and will play as a music file. The problem is that I cannot listen to them from the loop browser for easy selecting when arranging.
Is there any way to get these stubborn Apple files to appear & play in the Loop Browser? I was hoping they could be added via the Timeline to the Loop Browser, but have had no success. Also, I tried the Apple Loops Utility thinking maybe the appropriate tags were missing, but can't figure out what is missing, if anything.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Barb
iMac G5 20 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

The Loop Browser filters what it displays by only showing loops in the same Time Signature as the song you've created, and within 2 semitones of the Key your song is in.
You can change the latter by tuning off Keyword Browsing in GB's preferences.
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I can't find converted apple loops in the loop browser within Logic pro 7

Hello There.
I've cereated some apple loops with the apple loops utility. unfortunately I am unable to find them in the loop browser within Logic pro 7.2.1.
I've scaned them using the project manager " so Logic knows about them"
but still didn't reflect in the loop browser.
Is this the normal behavior or what am I doing wrong.
I hope I am doing something wrong, as to me the main feature of the loop browser is to be able to audition the loops quckly at the song tempo.
Thanks a lot in advance
Cheers
P.S searched in the Forum but the answers arn't very clear
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Just drop them on the Loop Browser and the rest should be taken care of.

How do you turn third-party midi loops into Apple Loops?

Does anyone know how to turn third-party midi loops into Apple Loops? I've got hundreds of short midi files that I purchased, and I would like to be able to use them in the loop browser of Logic Studio. I tried some of the obvious ways of doing this, like using Apple Loop Utility, but it doesn't seem to recognize .mid files. Seems like .mid files would be right up its alley, so maybe I'm doing something wrong...

Yes, have the same problem but with wav loops. i have 75000 wav loops from third part and do not find how to "logicized" it. For the moment i can use them into a project but they are not adapting when i change the bpm of the projetc for exemple.
If you know the solution i would be rescued

Apple Loops from Regions problem...

Greetings,
    Having a problem when I add a region to Apple Loops in Logic Express 8....
      I've read some similar threads, but nothing that answers these issues..
    After creating a region using the Ultrabeat or a synth (all internal), I'll select the region and go up
       to the 'Region' drop down menu and select the first option, 'Add to apple loops library'...
     I came across this process naturally and it seemed to work fine, but then some of the loops created
         acted differently than others. When I drag some of them into the Arrage area, and press play,
            they will playback no matter what position they are at.
        For example if I have a beat that starts at 1., but I have the recently added 'problem' loop at 4.,
          this 'problem' loop will play back from 1 as well, no matter if it's at 4, or 24...
       I'm not sure why this is happening to some and not others....???
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          on my harddrive!!!???   I really don't get this one...
         I've read about the Apple Loops Utility now and I guess i should use that for future loop creation?
            I really don't understand how the loops I made are no where to be found, not even in the
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         Would really, really appreciate if someone could help w/ this conundrum!

Ouch.... That's a real bummer.
I would recommend trying the "re-conversion" with just a few loops and seeing how it works for you. I've had to do this before as well. I had a library from L7 that I had converted using ALU inside L8's arrange window. For some reason, the loops that I had never used in that project that I had converted were not converted after I deleted the project that I used them in... make sense? not to me either....
The whole Apple Loop Utility is awesomely useful sometimes and buggy to the point of frustration at others....
Also, is there any consistent pattern to the "off-timeiness" of the loops? (i.e: only midi loops, only audio loops, only slows down, only speeds up, "choppy", etc...)

Can automator turn thousands of samples into Apple Loops? (VSL rep/runs)

Hello everyone,
First off, I'm familiar with how to build my own apple loops and find them to be VERY useful, especially in the application I'm about to describe. However, I find it quite tedious to build them manually, especially when dealing with thousands of samples. Thus I'm looking for the best/easist way to create apple loops, hopefully using Tigers "automator."
Heres my situation: I use/love VSL sample libs, which contain many articulations/phrases, but some of these are "tempo specific" such as the numerous instrument runs, repetition files, glissandos, crescendos, etc, and when doing a film score I cannot let tempo specific files dictate the tempo of the piece (the film does that). Thus I've started taking some of the VSL samples (especially the repetition and runs) and turning them into apple loops, which conform to the tempo of the piece. Within reason, the results are WONDERFUL allow me to continue to use these very realistic phrases at almost any tempo!
However, I've grown tired of manually converting these files to apple loops, and thus have only converted a handful of these phrases into apple loops. Whats worse is when I'm forced to stop the creative process to turn a phrase into an apple loop only to find that after all that time creating the loop, it doesnt work!
Is it possible to use Tigers automator to automatically convert .wav files into apple loops? This would be a great time saver, and would possibly allow for turning the thousands of samples into apple loops. Anyone currently doing this type of thing? Is it worth it in the end?
Thanks in advance for any help/tips you can provide.

Hi Jonathan,
You can use Logic to create AIFFs of these files very quickly.
Then, open them in ALU.
Select all files.
Change 1 field.
Save.
You now have Apple Loops -- they will have a few few things automatically inserted such as guessed tempi -- they will almost always be set to 4/4 to the tempo closest to 120(?)... but they will load and many will load usably for your needs.
Now, I don't know exactly what you are facing with this concept but it sounds like a very big job and this will still leave much time hand tuning. If this is true, I recommend you have a look at Accelerando:
http://www.eigentoneresearch.com/Accelerando.html
Accelerando contains several tools which will substantially decrease the tedium - and yes, it does use Automator. It works directly with Logic Pro, Apple Loops Utility - and more. Ultimately, you may be able to create workflows which handle this task with 1 gesture per Apple Loop - although a large library of workflows would be required to accomplish this to most users expectations so 2 or more gestures is more likely. of course, you can try to set up a more intelligent scheme if, say, the files can be filtered by an attribute such as their name.
J
Per Apple's TOU, I am required to state my affiliation with Eigentone Research.
I Developed Accelerando

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