Apple Mail fonts vary on PC Outlook

I am new to the MAC, just bought my first one. I'm using mail, but have noticed an issue with the font on the PC. When i compose in Mail as RTF using Tahoma (a font that everyone has), on the PC in outlook when i receive the message and view it, my signature is in Tahoma but the message body is in times new roman. it looks stupid. i'm not sure why i can't get it to be the same font in the whole message. Am i missing something??

this means i have to change the font every single
time i write an email - that doesn't seem very user
friendly?
That's how Mail works. You can also try using a "template." If you do a search on that term in this forum you should find some info.

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Apple Mail Font Issues with Outlook

Have apple fixed this issue with fonts changing and appearing differntly when you send emails to users on Microsoft Outlook. Most of the forums have message posts from 2011 but 2 years on you would think the issue would be fixed.
I have a whole team of computer illiterate staff and can't expect them to change the font format everytime they send an email. It looks so unprofessional sending emails out like this - next step is to switch to outlook for mac - any good feedback on this, I've heard if you have high volume emails working through gmail imap accounts that it just crashes all the time?
Any help or plugins would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Hi Kurt,
Thank you for your response. I am fully aware of what you have just said, and I do follow this basic protocol. The 'gripe' is that it seems that when we setup our message font in preferences one is under the impression this is the font that will be sent out. I later discovered this is only my screen font, and when we compose an email this font (for instance Arial 12pt) is not tagged in the outgoing message. In-fact it is left blank, and the receivers mail will change it to a default such as times new roman. However this seems to create strange changes on the receivers end and sometimes the font can come out huge or varying, there is no consistency and the email looks ugly, As a business owner, my email is my letter head, and is a communicational face of my business.
The issue could be easily resolved with an option for an Apple Mail user to set up what font they want their out going message to be in and for Apple Mail to actually tag that font in the message. Without the 'user' having to each time manually choose this font.
I always use Arial 12pt for my out going message, but it's frustrating that I have to each time select my text and change the font and point size, (which means my screen message font has to be another font and size otherwise apple mail does not pick up the change). What I, and from what I can see many people, don't understand is most Mail Software (if not all), except Apple mail, don’t have this issue. And if I used a different mail app I can choose my out going font such as Arial 12pt, and the receiver will see the same font (obviously providing it's a websafe font), and I don't need to keep telling the programme to make it Arial every-time I compose a new message. This would save time.
I know that this ‘gripe’ is not only myself, and that there is a large number of people out there also annoyed by this, and many Apple uses choose not to use Apple mail simply because of this reason. Which is a shame, because Apple mail in my opinion is the best mail app out there.
I don't expect the programme to be perfect, but this is basic user experience and basic functionality, so why can't Apple correct it? All the amazing features in the world are worthless if the basics ‘user experience’ is not friendly.
I really really hope Apple does something about it, or at least develop a plugin that we can download to sort it out for those of us who want to use mail as I have described.
Attachment Tamer has sorted out the whole compatibility and friendliness of attachments, and I can set up how I want my attachments to work, I do it once and don't have to think about it again. I did have to pay for this function. But I should not have had to. this is not a feature I should have had to plugin, it should come standard with Mail, every other mail software does, so it is a user expectation... And the same goes for how we set up our fonts, in Rich Text, I should only need to set it up once and not think of it again, a general out going font should be a standard function.
As I said, I do ‘put up with it’ mostly because I’m an Apple fan, and In general hugely happy with the Apple products. But should someone have to ‘put up’ with something like this, when it is something so small that should really have been sorted out years ago in the early versions of Mail?
Sorry Kurt, I'm not really moaning at you directly, it's just that its a frustrating non-feature that I can see Apple is not even taking into consideration, and probably will never look at sort out. Why, is the question?

Apple mail font changes with mail encoding

Apple mail will change the font automatically with the encoding of the message.
This might not be shown on Apple Mail, but it does when recieved in Microsoft Ouotlook / Windows.
When I send in Western Latin 1. font is Calibri
Switch the mail encoding to UTF-8, Font becomes Times new roman.
if mail encoding is DBCS like Big-5, it start to switch the big-5 default font on Windows and it's ugly.
This is serious, the change of fonts is very unprofessional.
And we can't ask everyone in the world ot switch to Apple mail, most of working system are still in Outlook...

Ok, on further research it doesn't seem to be as simple as I thought. It's hard for me to fully check now, as I've installed Universal Mailer, but it seems as if this might only apply to mail with a pre-formatted signature.
I've pasted the relevant part of the html from an affected email below. For obvious reasons I've replaced most of the text with asterisks, but as you'll see, some of the text (in italics) is in Verdana (in this case the first two lines), and some (in bold) isn't specified, and appears in whatever default font I choose. (I've added line breaks for clarity.)
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<head>
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii">
<base href=3D"x-msg://185/">
</head>
<body =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">
<div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true">
<span>
<img height=3D"62" width=3D"297" =
id=3D"dc979ff9-d9ed-4b0f-9ea6-4f6cadf12218" apple-width=3D"yes" =
apple-height=3D"yes" src=3D"cid:3451943488_157568">
</span>
<span =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
<br>
<br>
<br>Hi M*****,
</span>
</div>
<div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
">
<br>
</span>
</div>
<div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
<span =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Thank you for your =
reply.
</span>
</div>
<div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
<span =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
<br>
</span>
</div>
<div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true">
<span style=3D"orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; ">Just to clarify: *********************************?
<br>
<br>Kind =
regards,
<br>
<br>*****
<br>________________
</span>
<font size=3D"2" =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10px; ">
<br>
</span>
</font>
<span =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
font-size: 10px; ">
<font color=3D"#808080">
<h5>***** *****
<br>**********
<br>
</h5>
</font>
</span>
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style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: medium; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
<font>
<span style=3D"color: rgb(128, =
128, 128); font-size: small; ">
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</a>
</span>
</f=
ont>
</div>
<div apple-content-edited=3D"true" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
">
<font color=3D"#808080" size=3D"2">Tel: **************
<br>Mob: *************
<br>****************
</font>
</div>
</div>

Apple Mail, Fonts all out of Sync

I have been using MS Outlook.com for my e-mail for some time. It works OK but has its limitations.
I have recently started using Apple Mail, with my Outlook.com mail account.
Unfortunately mails look ridiculous - the fonts are all over the place. For example, I receive a mail sent from a business colleague. When I reply, it shows my Reply in 11point, but the sender's mail in 15 point. It obviously wasn't sent in 15 point, but it means that my mail will look horrible when it is received and printed.
I use Outlook at my work and - as you would expect - all mails come in and are responded to at the size they are sent. Most business users use Calibri 11, so when their mails are received they show up as Calibri 11 and when I reply they 'stay' as Calibri 11. But using Apple Mail, that same mail shows up as Calibri 15. Why is this and how can it be fixed?
Thanks!

Thank you for your reply.
I have, but it doesn't help. When I compose a reply the original message is again showing on my screen as a 15 point font message, which is what it is when I then send my message. That will look awful on the recipient's computer.
I have tested it out by sending a mail to my Outlook mail from my work mail account. My work e-mail account uses Outlook and send mails with a default font and size - Calibri 11. So it should be received in Apple Mail with that font. It appears to be, but when I compose a reply, the message text increases in size to Calibri 15 point, even though my reply is in Calibri 11 point (which is what I have set it to be in Mail/Preferences/Fonts and Colours.
The only way that I have been able to fix this is to manually change the sender's font to Calibri 11 point, and then reply. But that is tedious and I don't want to have to do that every time I reply to a mail. It's easier just to reply by accessing Outlook.com through the internet and working of that.
Any advice appreciated!

Apple mail fonts are unreadable

No one seem to have a constructive answer to this problem. I know about command + , I even purchased zoom app.. I copied and pasted the suggested commend on the terminal.....Nothing work. When I hit reply or compose new email, the display fonts are unreadable. I enlarged to 20 so i can read on my IMac (mountain lion) but people receive my email say the fonts are huge on their computer.
Please help!

Thank you for your reply.
I have, but it doesn't help. When I compose a reply the original message is again showing on my screen as a 15 point font message, which is what it is when I then send my message. That will look awful on the recipient's computer.
I have tested it out by sending a mail to my Outlook mail from my work mail account. My work e-mail account uses Outlook and send mails with a default font and size - Calibri 11. So it should be received in Apple Mail with that font. It appears to be, but when I compose a reply, the message text increases in size to Calibri 15 point, even though my reply is in Calibri 11 point (which is what I have set it to be in Mail/Preferences/Fonts and Colours.
The only way that I have been able to fix this is to manually change the sender's font to Calibri 11 point, and then reply. But that is tedious and I don't want to have to do that every time I reply to a mail. It's easier just to reply by accessing Outlook.com through the internet and working of that.
Any advice appreciated!

Apple mail    fonts window disappears   Mavericks

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Gus in Denver    aka 99guspuppet

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I am experiencing problems when using the new Apple Mail 5.0 (with OSX Lion) to send PDF attachments. The recipient using MS Outlook on a PC will see the email, see the attachment icon (paper clip) but they cannot click to open the attachment.
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I also have this problem, it seems to be something to do with this: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22343 but I cannot find the "View in Place" or "View as Icon" options. Anyone had any luck?
This however, maybe the cause (with no real solution but to switch to plain text format): http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesoftwareupdate/thread/7 98ae640-9091-44c9-b663-63152eb2f0fe/

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There is no problem when I boot in Safe Mode.
The only work around that I have found so far is to clear the user & system font cache (using Onyx) and restart. This then allows me to send & receive for a short time until the problem occurs again. I have tried to check whether any of the system / library fonts have become corrupted but it appears not (according to FontDoctor). I am not experiencing any other font-related issues.
Any ideas as to what could be doing the damage or at least how I might try to track down the cause of the problem?

MacBook Pro, !0.8.2
Mail > Preferences > Fonts & Colors
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Hello,
Could somebody please tell me how I go about exporting emails and the subfolders I have created from Apple Mail over to Microsoft Outlook 2011.
Can you also please advise if I am able to add these emails into an existing Main Identity?
Any help would be much appreciated

INFORMATION on Emailchemy from another Forum
I’ve found a way in which you can import Apple Mail into Outlook 2011 on Mac OS X Lion.
The software I’m running is Mac OS X 10.7.2 on a 2011 MacBook Pro.
You need to purchase an app called Emailchemy. It’s 29.99 for an individual license, and 49.99 for a family license. There are enterprise versions available as well.
Once you run the app, you need to do the following:
1. Export all mailboxes from Apple Mail to your desktop (or any other suitable location on your computer). You do this by selecting the mailbox, and then clicking on “Mailbox”, and then “Export Mailbox”. Save the destination, and the file is saved automatically.
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Apple Mail font size too small for father

My father just purchased a iMac with Mountain Lion OS and a 27 inch screen.
My father needs to be able to read the text of the AppleMail window.
We have increased the size of the fonts to 18 to make it easy for him to see what he is typing in the email editing window, however, none of the other display fonts in AppleMail increase.
The increase in font size is intended by Apple to provide an Accomodation to provide Equal Access for those with Sight Disabilities to the Essential Functions of use, however, this intent appears to have failed within AppleMail.
Would a different mail reader (gmail, etc) provide this font sizing ability?
Requested Remedy:
Provide the ability to increase font size for all of the AppleMail display.

'Preferences' doesn't solve the problem, since it only alters the font size of text for a single message, and doesn't alter the Mailbox Pane or Message Panes.
The Mailbox Pane is enlarged outside Mail, using the System Preference's 'General' setting for Sidebar Icon size - this also alters sidebar text size.
And the Message List is enlarged most easily by a Terminal command
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defaults write com.apple.mail RichMessageList -bool FALSE
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Apple Mail font colour issue

Wanted to know if anyone else was having this same font annomaly?
When in Mail, if I ever need to change my text colour to black through the "Click to choose text color" toolbar option (for example if I have copied text that was in a different colour from a web site and want to change it to black, or if I have changed my text colour for emphasis and need to change back to black), the text does not go to black, it turns white. I can begin composing any email in black fine, but simply cannot ever change text back to black.
This does not seem to affect any other colour, and if I select "Show colors" and change to black through the "Color wheel" it's fine (very poor internationalisation with the spelling of "color", by the way. Has everyone stopped reading the OS X Human Interface Guidelines since beginning development of Lion?!), it's almost as if the wrong colour value has been assigned to the black box. I know that greyscale is the new standard for Apple's toolbars and sidebars, etc, but removing black as a text option seems a little extreme!

Hello,
I have also, as everybody I think this issue.
Unfortunatly, it seems no solution available by Apple and plugin I tested (universalmailler, messagefont) or other don't solve it.
Well, I made my own service with automator (for mail.app, w/o entry) with such code below and assign it to hot key ^R (ctrl R):
I know this code is quick and dirty, but it function for me (OSX maverick, french) and now answer and previous text from sender are formatted in Arial, 16pts, blue dark color.
If somebody want to change it, improve it, no problem.
If somebody want more info, please tell me.
tell application "Mail"
          activate
end tell
delay 0.2
tell application "System Events"
                    keystroke "r" using command down
end tell
delay 0.2
tell application "System Events"
                    keystroke "a" using command down
end tell
delay 0.2
try
          set old to the clipboard as record
end try
delay 0.2
do shell script "textutil -stdin -stdout -format html -convert rtf <<< '<span style=\"font: 16px arial; color:#000099\">a</span>' | pbcopy"
tell application "System Events"
          keystroke "v" using command down
          keystroke "c" using {option down, command down}
          keystroke "z" using command down
          keystroke "v" using {option down, command down}
          key code 123
end tell
delay 0.05
try
          set the clipboard to old
end try

Apple Mail font and colour changes while typing!

I'm having an issue whereby the font and colour changes back to the default while I'm typing an email!
I have several signatures. When I select a signature and start typing, at apparently random moments, the font reverts to the default!
This will happen when I'm typing a line and, when it changes, if I cmd-z to undo my typing character by character - at some random point it suddenly reverts back to the signature font and colour.
Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a cause and/or solution?
Thanks,
Geoff

I'm having an issue whereby the font and colour changes back to the default while I'm typing an email!
I have several signatures. When I select a signature and start typing, at apparently random moments, the font reverts to the default!
This will happen when I'm typing a line and, when it changes, if I cmd-z to undo my typing character by character - at some random point it suddenly reverts back to the signature font and colour.
Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a cause and/or solution?
Thanks,
Geoff

ATT00001.htm attachment in Outlook when sent with Apple Mail - SOLVED!

Hi All,
We recently discovered the problem where emails with attachments sent from Apple Mail were being received in Outlook, blank but with BOTH the attachment and the email itself as an ATT00001.htm attachment!
I've discovered that the problem kicks in if the attachment is placed BEFORE the email message! If I write an email and then add an attachment AFTERWARD, ie. below the text, there is no problem.
I hope this helps...

Hi, you could try Universal Mailer plugin (http://noware-it.zxq.net), it solves this issue by correctly handling attachments. This also solves the problem for inlined images, which can now be correctly seen by recipients.
PS: following Apple's forum rules I have to state that, since I'm the developer of Universal Mailer, I might make some profits from it. Also, on the website you can find a free version of the plugin, which has some limitation but can be used to test its functionality.

How to export apple mail to Windows outlook 2013

Is there any possible solution available to export all my data from apple mail to windows systen in outlook 2013.
There are tons of emails that I have managed to save in the past 12 years (believe me there are a lot of them with multiple attachments) and I do not ant to loose any one of them. I Just want to move them to my windows system in outlook 2013 for which I could not find any particular solution.
On the other hand outlook 2013 is unablr to sync all my emails via Imap. It shows multiple errors which I am not able to figure out. PLease suggest any simpler method which posses minimum hassles. Thanks

Watching this long discussion I couldn't resist myself to share my view on this topic. Once in a while I too had the same problem and I had to transfer a **** lot of emails from Apple Mail client to Windows Outlook. Imap failed and was of no use for some stupid mail crashing reason. I searched for manual work-arounds and posted many queries on various mac forum sites (including this one). I received many responses as solutions for manual process but none of them could transfer my emails from apple mail to outlook.
I knew about the email converters but never wanted to pay a single penny for them but unfortunately I had too. I bought this apple mail to pst converter mentioned by TON456 and after archiving apple mail data and moving it to windows system, it took the application only three clicks to convert the email file format to the desired one that outlook can import (i.e, .PST). I saw no point in buying the tool but its the fault of email client makers for not providing the proper import/export means (seems kind of mean to me, as they need us to stick to their client only). Big companies like apple and microsoft should figure out this situation and provide free solutions.
On the other hand if Imap crashes (as mine did too) then users like us have no options other than email converters. Though they are costly but there is no help to user in pointing out those solution posts.
To the thread starter I would suggest to go with Imap mail configuration but if it still doesn't work then using the apple mail to pst converter is only way left. Thanks.

Export Apple Mail 5.1, and import to MS outlook 2011

now I want to export apple mail 5.1 to ms outlook 2011,
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and I tried another software "Thunderbird", it's the same situation.
and now i can't find any solution on the internet.
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Hi,
Could you find any solution for that problem?
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