Apple Mail limits under 10.7?

<cross posted from: Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard due to lack of replys>
going insane!  have read a ton of posts but nothing definitive to my problem
Apple Mail has been reindexing mailboxes on only one user, on and off, for a couple of months now!
incredibly frustrating for him (and me.)
Apple Mail Version 4.6 (1085)
Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Exchange IMAP
All started when we upgraded the Kerio mailserver to the latest version, but the problem is not visible in web mail OR any other client i've tried to connect to this account with. It only happens in Apple Mail on this Mac. Kerio support been brilliant throughout but we are at the point that it looks like its Apple Mail.
It can go for days without rebuilding and then suddenly it says INDEXING or CACHING, 4960 of 11008 (or similar messages)
the user HAD an exceptionally high amount of mail 85,000+ in the inbox alone
this was reduced to the mail server supported recommendation of <10,000 per box. This was done to all but the Sent items (time constraints).
Since then mail has continued to flow and so the boxes continue to increase.
INBOX and SENT are over the 10,000 message guide, but I now suspect we are hitting the OS limit of 2GB per box (is that fact?)
Sent Messages are 9.5GB
Inbox 2.7GB
and then there are at least another 6 box >1GB
the rest are <than 1GB
simple questions I need to answer:
Can someone provide me a link to a definitive Apple doc that says 2GB limit per mailbox for Apple Mail please?
and
Does Apple Mail under 10.7 or 10.8 suffer the same 2GB limitation?
....or does anyone else have any suggestions I may have overlooked
TIA

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    To recognize malware, the software depends on a database of known threats, which is always at least a day out of date. This technique is a proven failure, as a major AV software vendor has admitted. Most attacks are "zero-day"—that is, previously unknown. Recognition-based AV does not defend against such attacks, and the enterprise IT industry is coming to the realization that traditional AV software is worthless.
    Its design is predicated on the nonexistent threat that malware may be injected at any time, anywhere in the file system. Malware is downloaded from the network; it doesn't materialize from nowhere. In order to meet that nonexistent threat, commercial AV software modifies or duplicates low-level functions of the operating system, which is a waste of resources and a common cause of instability, bugs, and poor performance.
    By modifying the operating system, the software may also create weaknesses that could be exploited by malware attackers.
    Most importantly, a false sense of security is dangerous.
    8. An AV product from the App Store, such as "ClamXav," has the same drawback as the commercial suites of being always out of date, but it does not inject low-level code into the operating system. That doesn't mean it's entirely harmless. It may report email messages that have "phishing" links in the body, or Windows malware in attachments, as infected files, and offer to delete or move them. Doing so will corrupt the Mail database. The messages should be deleted from within the Mail application.
    An AV app is not needed, and cannot be relied upon, for protection against OS X malware. It's useful, if at all, only for detecting Windows malware, and even for that use it's not really effective, because new Windows malware is emerging much faster than OS X malware.
    Windows malware can't harm you directly (unless, of course, you use Windows.) Just don't pass it on to anyone else. A malicious attachment in email is usually easy to recognize by the name alone. An actual example:
    London Terror Moovie.avi [124 spaces] Checked By Norton Antivirus.exe
    You don't need software to tell you that's a Windows trojan. Software may be able to tell you which trojan it is, but who cares? In practice, there's no reason to use recognition software unless an institutional policy requires it. Windows malware is so widespread that you should assume it's in every email attachment until proven otherwise. Nevertheless, ClamXav or a similar product from the App Store may serve a purpose if it satisfies an ill-informed network administrator who says you must run some kind of AV application. It's free and it won't handicap the system.
    The ClamXav developer won't try to "upsell" you to a paid version of the product. Other developers may do that. Don't be upsold. For one thing, you should not pay to protect Windows users from the consequences of their choice of computing platform. For another, a paid upgrade from a free app will probably have all the disadvantages mentioned in section 7.
    9. It seems to be a common belief that the built-in Application Firewall acts as a barrier to infection, or prevents malware from functioning. It does neither. It blocks inbound connections to certain network services you're running, such as file sharing. It's disabled by default and you should leave it that way if you're behind a router on a private home or office network. Activate it only when you're on an untrusted network, for instance a public Wi-Fi hotspot, where you don't want to provide services. Disable any services you don't use in the Sharing preference pane. All are disabled by default.
    10. As a Mac user you don't have to live in fear that your computer may be infected every time you install software, read email, or visit a web page. But neither should you assume that you will always be safe from exploitation, no matter what you do. The greatest harm done by security software is precisely its selling point: it makes people feel safe. They may then feel safe enough to take risks from which the software doesn't protect them. Nothing can lessen the need for safe computing practices.

  • GApps/Gmail to Apple Mail Setups: Part 1 "Types"

    LITERATURE
    http://eprints.rclis.org/14165/1/CHI_2004_lb172-gwizdka.pdf
    http://inboxzero.com/articles/
    ACTIONS
    Do - Completes task associated with email
    Defer - The email isn't best answered by you
    Delete - Message is deleted
    Delegate - Task assigned to other though any method
    Respond - Reply!
    TYPES
    All three cases I'm laying out here will deal with the inbox zero approach.
    Cleaner
    "Delete-Centric"
    deletes email as primary action
    does not or rarely archives
    may use basic stars or flags
    "The Hybrid"
    Cleaner-Keeper: "Archive-centric"
    limited "just stars/flags" or no tagging of messages
    could use archive instead of delete preferring to keep everything 
    Keeper
    "Sort-centric"
    messages are categorized in advance thru filters
    or from the inbox and distributed to folders/labels
    We're obviously excluding those users (and there are a lot of them) who keep all of their messages in the inbox and either rely on unread and read counts/ indicators and/or emails per view/page. What could we name these people? Feelers? Bleeders?
    I'm very unfond of this method and the literature suggests that this choice is vastly inferior to the other approaches.
    I'm very fond of the hybrid approach with the user adding filters in gmail to manage their wanted email subscriptions and removing themselves from lists they do not want.
    Am I missing any types here?
    Anyone got anything to add?
    Part II A-C will deal with the actual setups for each type.

    The outgoing mail saved as drafts issue, results when you are composing a message, Mail saves it to drafts folder on the server. It's supposed to removed the draft version when sending but often it does not, leaving you confused over whether the message has been sent.
    You can select to save draft messages to On My Mac. You won't have access to your drafts on other devices with this option, but no more doubt over a left over message in drafts.
    Gmail is not standard IMAP. Getting the settings correct is difficult.You need to log into your browser to make some of the selections.
    Trash/delete are not the same thing. Trash really trashes where delete actually removes the label and moves the message to All Mail.
    To make matters even more confusing, the setup for Apple Mail and Microsoft Outlook for Mac are different. For example, the settings for Sent mail.
    When sending from Gmail’s server, your sent messages will be automatically copied to the [Gmail]/Sent folder. By default Outlook 2011 will set Sent to “Don’t store a copy of Sent Messages”, but Mail won't let me select this option.
    Also confusing is setting Mail's folder for Sent, Drafts, Trash and Junk. If you see a [Gmail] folder list with folders, you need to select the folder to be used by Mail. Under Mailbox in the Menu bar, select Mailbox > Use this mailbox for
    This article will help get you started with setting your Gmail account settings in your browser, but as I noted Mail and Outlook are not exactly alike. Connect Outlook for Mac 2011 to Gmail’s IMAP service http://www.officeformachelp.com/2012/12/connect-outlook-for-mac-2011-to-gmails-i map-service/
    MailTab Pro for Gmail is on sale right now for 99¢. AirMail $1.99 is also very popular. Both on Mac App Store (MAS) and work great with Gmail.
    Hope this helps!

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