Apple Mail pop3 login whoes

Has anyone had luck authenticating with pop.netvigator.com?
I can login via webmail but never with Apple Mail. I have tried a few of the suggestions on this discussion board but still cant login via pop3. Outgoing mail appears to be fine.
Thanks.
computer:~$ telnet pop.netvigator.com 110
Trying 218.102.53.74...
Connected to pop.netvigator.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK InterMail POP3 server ready.
USER xxxxxx
+OK please send PASS command
PASS abcdef
-ERR invalid user name or password.
PASS abcedf
-ERR Invalid command; valid commands: USER, QUIT

Hello UK_STRANGER.
Selected messages can be exported in standard mbox format doing File > Save As in Mail and choosing Raw Message Source from the Format popup menu. Standard mbox files can be imported into most mail clients. In particular, they can be imported back into Mail doing File > Import Mailboxes and choosing Other as the data format.
Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has an Archive Messages script that you may also find useful.

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GMail is not working with Apple Mail App: Login correct, says "no e-mails"?

HI everyone,
I just switched from my iPhone 5 to a new iPhone 6 Plus running iOS 8.1.2. After I put the latest backup to the new device everything was set up fine. Unfortunately Google Mail doesn't work with the Apple Mail App any more.
I have two factor identification switched on and use the 16 digit long password which I set up with my Google account. The configuration details work (login, password, server details), the account is accepted, no notifications tell me that anything is wrong. The thing is, that the Apple Mail App doesn't show any mails. Also it's impossible to send any emails. The strange thing is, that the GMail App works fine.
I really tried everything: deleted the account setup, changed mail server from m.google.com to smtp.google.com, set up a new app specific password through two factor identification... no emails appear!
With my iPhone 5 I was a lucky user of push email, thanks to Microsoft ActiveSync. So I keep trying to configure the GMail account as an Exchange account (I know that Google switched off ActiveSync some time ago, until now everything worked fine with my iPhone 5, even push mail worked!).
Does anyone of you know how to solve the problem? I don't like the GMail App and really prefer using the iOS Mail App..
Thanks in advance!

RTom90 wrote:
I have brought this to the Gmail support community, but so far no luck.
Responses? Suggestions? What did the Gmail forums have you to do or try?

Popups in apple mail for login

I keep getting a pop up in apple mail asking for my yahoo passwork

I am in OS 10.9.1, using Mail 7.1. Even with Notifications set to Alerts, I do not have to confirm. The Notification is displayed on the top right of the screen, the mail is in the Inbox and the Notification disappears when I read the Mail. Is that not the way it works for you?
But perhaps this is not what you mean.
If the issue has to do with Notifications, you can turn it off.
Go to: Apple menu / System Preferences / Notifications.
Select Mail on the left, and click None for Mail alert style:

Copying Apple mail pop3 account to Outlook 2003

Hello,
One of my client recently bought few PCs. They wasnt to use apple mails as well as the PCs. Is there a way to copy all POP 3 emails to Microsoft Outlook 2003. In apple mail, the users have four or five folders and within the folders they have subfolders.
Operating system Mac os X 10.4.9
Model: iMAC G5

Hello UK_STRANGER.
Selected messages can be exported in standard mbox format doing File > Save As in Mail and choosing Raw Message Source from the Format popup menu. Standard mbox files can be imported into most mail clients. In particular, they can be imported back into Mail doing File > Import Mailboxes and choosing Other as the data format.
Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has an Archive Messages script that you may also find useful.

Challenges with Apple Mail auto-complete

Hi all,
I'm seeking advice regarding some challenges with Apple Mail auto-complete email addresses for a friend's AOL mail IMAP account. Main issue: in Apple Mail, recently contacted email addresses are not appearing via auto-complete. As such, I'm doing some research for him and have some questions:
- Any resources on how email contacts are managed in Apple Mail?
- Any resources on how email contacts are managed in Apple Contacts? What's the difference? I'm not 100% clear how they are linked.
- Seeking alternative to Apple Mail for someone who is legally blind. Are there some alternatives with a simpler interface and possibly better integration with VoiceOver? Just curious
Any help is appreciated.
Mac Mini (late 2012)
Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F45)
Apple Mail v 6.6
Apple Contacts v7.1

1) Reindex Mail
Go to your User's Library folder. (if you don't know how to find, see this link.)
http://www.needhelp4mac.com/2013/11/how-to-enable-users-library-folder/
Scroll to Mail folder.
Select the V2 > MailData folder.
Delete any files in MailData with envelope in the name. (should be 3)
When you open Mail it will re-index your files.
2) Search is based off Spotlight cache files.
HOW TO RE-INDEX YOUR SPOTLIGHT CACHE FILES
From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences.
* Click Spotlight.
* Click the Privacy tab.
* Drag your drive to the list. Wait a couple of minutes.
* Remove the item you added.
* Spotlight will re-index the contents of the item you initially dragged to the list.
Contacts in Mail
Under Window in the Menu bar, select Previous Recipients List. If the person is in your Contacts, there will be an icon next to the email address. You can add entries to contacts or remove from the list. For example your friend got a new email address but autofil wants to use an old email address. Remove the old entry.
While Mail and Contacts are two separate applications they are tightly integrated.
I'm sorry but I have no other suggestions for a better email client.
Download and run the Mountain Lion combo to refresh your system files.
OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo) 831.81 MB
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676
Hope this helps!

Why Won't Apple Mail 4.1 Accounts with Folders on the Mac Take in Email?

Tuesday, October 6, 2009
3:11 PM -0800
I cloned my first generation MacBook Pro to a new and very hot 3.06 dual core.
I have three mail accounts on Apple Mail 4.1 running on OS 10.6.1. I changed port 25 on SMTP to port 587 as required.
The two accounts with mailboxes on the Mac, Verizon and Yahoo! Plus, can't receive mail. They turn grey and show that little dinky sign. Connection doctor doesn't specifically tell me what's going on, either.
I'd love to have a way to check the POP server and it number, but I can't do that with Apple Mail.
I've taken out and re-created both accounts. I have a lot of email filters and don't want to lose them. I suppose the next thing to do is trash the ~Mail folder bug hold on to the filters. The geniuses at the local Apple outlet say it's something which must be fixed here at my home address.
Verizon is my major account, by far. I have made the required changes on the SMTP port from 25 to 587. I sure wish I could check the POP ports and their numbers on Apple Mail.
-John
-John

Greetings,
I'd love to have a way to check the POP server and it number, but I can't do that with Apple Mail.
Says who? Of course you can check this; if you couldn't then you also couldn't enter those port numbers, which would make no sense at all.
*For Incoming Verizon:*
POP server name is incoming.verizon.net
POP port number is: 110
Verizon does not support SSL, but does require Password Authentication.
You can see both of these in the Advanced tab of Preferences > Accounts
*For Outgoing Verizon:*
SMTP server name is outgoing.verizon.net
SMTP port number is 25
No SSL, but Password Authentication is required.
You can view these in the Account Information tab in Preferences > Accounts
*Incoming Yahoo! Mail Plus:*
POP server is plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP Port number is 995
Check SSL and Pasword Authentication
*Outgoing Yahoo! Mail Plus:*
SMTP server is plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP Port number is 465
Check SSL and Pasword Authentication
Test it by sending email from each account to the other.

How to Merge Eudora into Apple Mail?

Mac OS 10.5.8 is now obsolete. So I'm planning to upgrade to Lion 10.7.x.
Since Lion does not support Eudora, I must switch to some other email client. After many hours of research I have decided to switch to Apple Mail.
Unfortunately, the two popular conversion applications (Emailchemy and Eudora Mailbox Cleaner) appear no longer in existence.
Any good tips on how to merge Eudora into Apple Mail on OS 10.5.8 (so I can upgrade to Lion 10.7.x)?
Thank you.
Scott "pulling his hair out" in Saint Louis

Hi folks,
I just helped someone move 350k messages from a series of Eudora archives to Apple Mail. Anyone who says they had great luck with Apple Mail directly importing their Eudora messages is either a liar or didn't notice (or care) that their dates were all messed up. So here are some notes.
First, Eudora Mailbox Cleaner only runs under 10.6 since it's PPC and requires Rosetta. So you're gonna need a 10.6 or earlier mac (or virtual machine).
Second, After running Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, you need to poke Apple Mail into rebuilding all those mailboxes. You can go Mailbox->Rebuild for each one if you only have a handful, but an alternative is to intentionally break (aka delete) Apple Mail's mailbox cache. You can do this by deleting/renaming the file called 'Mailboxes' (IIRC, I don't have a 10.6 mac in front of me to double check). Next time you open Apple Mail it will rebuild all your local mailboxes.
Third, Eudora Mailbox Cleaner will terminate if you throw it a particularly complex (or large group of mailboxes). I assume it has something to do with the way it walks mailboxes. You're going to want to break up any mail folder that has a number of large subfolders into multiple folders or imports. So for example, if you had the following structure:
folder/
folder/a (big)
folder/b (big)
folder/c (big)
Eudora mailbox cleaner will likely crash. If you reparent your folder structure so it's something like this:
folder/part1/a
folder/part2/b
folder/part3/c
This way no individual sub folder contains folders that exceed some magical threshold. I never figured out exactly how/why this happens, but if you put your big mailboxes each in their own folder, the import will usually just work. You might also have to break up your import into smaller chunks.
A couple other things to note, Eudora allows pretty much anything in mailbox names including ~><*%$@&/\|` etc. While most of these will continue to work fine in Apple Mail, it's in your best interest to rename them to something more normalized to steer clear of trouble.
As for Lion, I never successfully got Lion Mail to import mailboxes created by Eudora Mailbox Cleaner properly. Either they wouldn't show up at all or they would show up nested with two copies of the mailbox, for example MailboxQQ had messages in it as well as subfolder MailboxQQ/Messages with a duplicate copy of the mail.
So for me, going from Eudora to Lion Apple Mail I had to do the following:
Eudora->Eudora Mailbox Cleaner->Apple Mail (on 10.6) then copy the files over to the Lion machine and let Apple Mail (on 10.7) import the 10.6 Apple Mail Mailboxes into it's new 'V2' mailbox format.
So good luck. A perfect migration is possible, it just takes some work.

Apple Mail does not download pop3 after 9 March

From 9 March my Apple Mail refuses to download email from a POP3 connection. I use a MacBook air running 10.10.2. Without any success I have tried the following:
restored from TM backup prior to 9 March - get mail seems to perform correctly but no more emails appear
erase disk and perform full factory install of Yosemite - then setup mail account - all emails up to 9 March reload from server but nothing after
worked with ISP L2 tech for many hours - they are stumped
setup new user on my wife's iMac - this has not had the 9 March security updates applied yet - set up new email accounts - same result with email not being downloaded from 9 March
set up Mulberry and Thunderbird email clients - same result with email not being downloaded from 9 March
tried accessing from work network (MBA is recognised under BYOD settings) that worked perfectly prior to 9/3 but now has same problem - this to prove that ISP connection at home not problem
However emails since 9 March are visible using webmail. Equally emails sent today to this account appear in webmail but not in the Apple client.
I have two pop3 accounts to the same ISP linked to the same account - using the other email address to the same ISP - no problems at all!!
In looking at logs created by Connection Doctor nothing comes up in the All Messages view. But looking at the SocketStremEvents.log the following error messages are shown:
Mar 15 11:46:22 Warwicks-iMac.local Mail[3677] <Debug>: ERROR: Writing failed to socket: 0x6180000b0aa0, error: Error Domain=MCMailErrorDomain Code=1029 "The operation couldn’t be completed. (MCMailErrorDomain error 1029.)"
Mar 15 11:46:22 Warwicks-iMac.local Mail[3677] <Debug>: NSStreamEventHasBytesAvailable -- socket: 0x6080002b3e00 -- thread: 0x61000066abc0
Mar 15 11:46:22 Warwicks-iMac.local Mail[3677] <Debug>: Unscheduled input stream from run loop after waiting to be readable -- socket: 0x6080002b3e00 -- thread: 0x61000066abc0
In looking at Accounts.plist (in ~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData) I note that there are two different settings for the key "UserAllowsInsecureAuthentication" across the two accounts. One is set to false and one to true. my ISP does not use encryption only authentication on POP3 and no authentication on smtp. I have tried setting this to true in both cases but this makes no difference.
Extract 1: this for account exhibiting the inability to receive emails after 9 March:
<string>[email protected]</string>
</array>
<key>FullUserName</key>
<string>Warwick at Sandcastle Consulting</string>
<key>Hostname</key>
<string>pop3.paradise.net.nz</string>
<key>IsFirstTimeSync</key>
<string>YES</string>
<key>JunkMailboxName</key>
<string>Junk</string>
<key>NotesMailboxName</key>
<string>Notes</string>
<key>PortNumber</key>
<integer>110</integer>
<key>SMTPIdentifier</key>
<string>smtp.paradise.net.nz</string>
<key>SentMessagesMailboxName</key>
<string>Sent Messages</string>
<key>ToDosMailboxName</key>
<string>Apple Mail To Do</string>
<key>TrashMailboxName</key>
<string>Deleted Messages</string>
<key>UserAllowsInsecureAuthentication</key>
<true/>
Extract 2: this for account that works perfectly:
<string>[email protected]</string>
<key>ConfigureDynamically</key>
<true/>
<key>Hostname</key>
<string>smtp.paradise.net.nz</string>
<key>MaxMessageBytes</key>
<integer>31457280</integer>
<key>PortNumber</key>
<integer>25</integer>
<key>UserAllowsInsecureAuthentication</key>
<false/>
Needless to say I am stumped. I cannot understand why one email address with a different username but to the same ISP exhibits the problem but not the other.

I have found a fix - delete all the emails using the webmail account. Obviously there was something in one of the emails that was generating an error somewhere - whether on the client or server I am no closer to knowing.
But once all emails were deleted, then test messages started flowing.
Now why didn't I try that a week ago. Ho hum!

How do you access apple mail on a pc? I am trying to find the answer for my technically challenged Uncle who is going to be traveling next week. I am a PC user and he is a Mac user.

My uncle is across the country and has turned to me for help on accessing his apple mail account on a pc. Is it as simple as having a web address and typing in his user name and password? His email ends with @sbcglobal.net, but both he and his wife can access all their mail on their mac. I have tried going through yahoo with his username and password, but it does not show all the same emails that he can see from his mac.

His email account is with SBC, the easiest way is to go their website to retrieve his email. Here is what I located, I recommend you bookmark it.
If you cannot see all of his emails then he probably has changed a setting in Email tool (Mail on his Mac) to delete mail off of the server. He can check that on his Mac by:
1. Opening Mail
2. Open Mail Preferences (shortcut is Command Key + Spacebar)
3. Click on Accounts tab
4. Click on Advanced tab
5. Set the preference for the box marked "Remove copy from server after retrieving a message."
https://login.yahoo.com/config/login_verify2?.intl=us&.partner=sbc&.src=ym
Roger

POP3 Apple Mail vs M-Me Mail - any conflicts? (besides bandwidth overload.)

As long-time user, with four year's traffic totaling over 10 MB of mail folders and posts (not including media or downloads), I love the idea of having it both ways:: MobileMe web access, when on the move, and traditional local storage of posts, for desktop use. There is a very large benefit to having my mail history (+ documents directory) stored by mobileme, idisk (copied manually), Time Machine, AND on my MAC mini. Many is the time I wished I had a third source of recovery from errors or disasters...
That said, there is really high overhead on re-sorting and retransmitting a whole Christmas Tree of folders and files, across clogged nets, just to search for a file or check the health of the indexes...
My question is: does MobileMe in any way affect the prior functionality of Apple Mail via POP3..?
I am worried, because I see, more frequently than ever before, glitches in the indexing of my mail folders. Searches go awry, folders are missing or folder names get moved into different sub-directories, or messages will appear in more than one directory... I am mystified.
Generally, the old reindexing feature, plus checking permissions using Disk Utility (plus getting the current OS-X update) fixed everything. BUT, with the latest upgrade, I see the new recommendation is to: "move (all) the mail files, and then ask Apple Mail to recreate all the folders" .. and their contents, by download from the MobileMe servers. This is a SCARY BIG piece of network traffic, even on 3000 KB/s Verizon DSL.
If this sounds like a 'grumpy old man', you are correct Mark me enthusiastic, but cautious.
My history includes a first programming success on an IBM 1620 in 1962, using punch cards and the GOTRAN interpreter. Later, after RPG in the Navy, I wrote BASIC on an Ohio Scientific 6502 CPU, BASIC on a Ti-99/4a... Then, BASIC & APL on Service Bureau's timesharing, and finally PERL and HTML on the net. I do a lot of 'Office', as well.
I was never really happy, until finding Karelia's SandVOX, on the mini... see: http://charitykicks.com I love my six year old MAC mini - using it, and with OS-X, I eagerly bailed out of the "you-know-what" 'world' ...
I plan to buy a new 'machine-tool-milled' mini, with all its new I/O, once the fuss dies down. Half my purchase will be software ..!
Please, please, please ... give me technical support for the idea that those of us 'early adopters' of personal computing may quickly embrace 'cloud-computing' without fear that our extensive work environments will not be held hostage to several third parties' bottle-necked bandwidth.!
Thank you,
Scoutmaster Obiwan

Long term, MailForge looks like it's going to become a worthy replacement for Eudora. Check it out:
http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/mailforge/index.html
As far as importing into Eudora OSE is concerned, I've done it without experiencing any adverse effects. It won't "take over" as long as you keep the Eudora OSE application separate from the "real" Eudora - and don't have both of them running at the same time (both trying to access mail servers etc.)

Apple Mail 8.2 disables SSL to POP3 server (Securityrisk)

Hi,
Setup
Computer:
OSX 10.10.2
Mail 8.2 (2070.6)
Mail server A
POP3 port 995 SSL
(Non SSL - port 110 - is disabled due to security reasons)
Mail server B
POP3 port 110
POP3 port 995 SSL
Summary
OSX Mail client removes SSL support on non regular intervals for POP3 connections. For the connections that support regular non SSL POP3 (port 110) this reduces the security, but the mail is available. This was noticed by me because one ISP has locked down their POP3 server to SSL only due to security reasons. After reenabling SSL on the connection (Mail -> Preferences -> Accounts -> Account in question -> Advanced) the connection remains with SSL support for a while, then it is removed again. As OS X Mail has no token to identify SSL or regular port 110 connection this is transparant to the user, unless the server does not support regular POP3, at which time a error is generated.
Comments
1) This seems to be a security related issue with mail where OS X mail downgrades from SSL connection to regular port 110 POP3 traffic
2) If corrected the connection is downgraded again within a couple of days, if not sooner.
3) Connections to POP3 servers supporting port 110 are "unaffected" with the exception of the security issue of a downgrade
4) Connections to POP3 servers that only support SSL - port 995 - are not able to complete until SSL has been reenabled manualy.
5) Downgrade bug has been seen only on my machine, so it might not be something mainstream. Machine is updated to latest patches.
Questions
1) As this has only been observed on my machine, has anybody else seen this POP3 SSL downgrade bug?

Same problem. The following information is from Symantec:
To disable SSL\TLS
Open Apple Mail.
Click the Mail menu and select Preferences.
Select your mail account on the left under Accounts, then click the Advanced tab.
Confirm the check box labeled "use SSL" is not checked next to ports. If necessary remove the checkmark.
Click the Account Information tab and select Edit Server list from the drop down next to Outgoing Mail Server.
Click the Advanced tab and confirm there is not a checkmark next to Use Secure Socket Layer(SSL).
Click OK and close the accounts. Window and choose to save.
Click Save to update your settings.
Restart Apple Mail.
This does work for a while but eventually Mail reverts to enabling Use SSL and disabling Allow Insecure Authentication but only one some of my addresses but not all. Some accounts POP logs-in but not SMTP.

Apple Mail delets messages on the Server POP3

Apple Mail delets messages on the Server Method: POP3. I use the preference to delete message if they where transfered out of the incoming box.
Since 10.6 this seems not longer to work, what is going wrong?
System: 10.6.4

Hi there. This feature should work, as I have 10.6.4 and use it personally. Note that once a message is deleted from POP mail cannot put it back, so this setting once checked only applies to new messages.
Make sure you look at the options about removing the message from the server when it's removed from the trash or after xx days.
If these are set correctly, you may find luck in unchecking the box for leaving the messages on the server and then rechecking it.
Lastly, you could try deleting the mail account and recreating it.
Regards,
-Ryan

Apple mail not cleaning up POP3 server?

I use Apple Mail (in POP3 mode) and Spamsieve, and it appearsthat it never removes junk mail and/or moved mail from my mail server (a Unix hosted domain). I have "delete permanently on move from inbox" and "delete permanently when deleted in Mail" set properly.
How do I know? If I read/move/delete all mail in my inbox, and then manually delete all the mail in the junk mail folder, then use something like Thunderbird in IMAP mode, I found that my /var/mail/sparker was 95+Mb full of garbage from the previous year (or much more)
Interestingly, if I have message that lands in my inbox (no rules processing) and I manually delete them, they get removed properly from the /var/mail/sparker file. If Rules or SpamSieve move them, they never get deleted properly.
So... For those of you with external hosts for your mail, go check your /var/mail/<userid> file. I'd bet they're huge.....
I've got to the point where I read and process all my mail using AppleMail, then quit, launch thunderbird, and delete everything manually. Seems ridiculous, but that's what I'm doing now.
I like SpamSieve enough (with 99.7% accuracy) that I'd prefer not to switch to Thunderbird exclusively. But if I have to keep processing mail using BOTH tools, then I'm going to have to switch.
Steve

I have [...] "delete permanently when deleted in
Mail"
set properly.
Considering that no such setting exists in Mail, I
find this hard to believe.
Wow... Sorry I upset you. I was asking this question from another machine, and hoped people would be intuit that I really meant "Remove copy from server after retrieving a message". I was obviously wrong that you could intuit that I just got the exact string setting incorrectly.
I found that my /var/mail/sparker was 95+Mb
full of garbage from the previous year (or much
more)
What does /var/mail have to do with Apple
Mail?
On my web host that hosts my domain, all their mail pools in /var/mail/<user> until I hook up my Powerbook and download it as POP3 mail. If I don't go get it, it accumulates in this file. It's standard Unix type mail.
Interestingly, if I have message that lands in my
inbox
(no rules processing) and I manually delete them,
they
get removed properly from the /var/mail/sparker
file.
That's interesting, indeed. But even more interesting
is that I manage 8 POP accounts in Mail (5 different
"external hosts"), and my /var/mail
directory is always empty. I don't even have a
/var/mail/username file...
I'm sorry to hear that. I do have a /var/mail/<username> where all my mail accumulates. It's on a FreeBSD server. It does exist, as does a mail file for everybody else on that host.
So... For those of you with external hosts for
your
mail, go check your /var/mail/<userid> file. I'd
bet
they're huge.....
I bet they aren't. Actually, I bet no such file
exists at all in most cases...
I can generate a listing here, but that wouldn't solve this problem.
I'm sorry that I upset you by asking this question. I've used many email clients on Mac, Windows, and quite as few flavors of Unix, and this mail client is the first time I've encountered the lack of clean up of the POP3 mailbox.
However, in a post earlier this evening, I mentioned that I changed the setting for the "Remove copy from server after retrieving a message:" from "Right Away" to "When moved from Inbox" (and yes, those are the exact text strings in the Accounts -> Advanced Preference pane), and the messages are now removed correctly from /var/mail/<user> on my host.
So, something that the rules processing interacting with the "Right Away" setting is not cleaning up properly. Changing it to "When moved from Inbox" is cleaning up messages that the Rules move to other folders (including messages that Spamsieve moves to other folders).
Steve

HT1277 After i changed the login password on my father's mac he could no longer access email through apple mail on either the mac or his ipad. any suggestions as to how to fix this problem?

After i changed the login password on my father's mac he could no longer access email through apple mail on either the mac or his ipad. any suggestions as to how to fix this problem?

See if this helps...
Mac OS X 10.4 Help, I forgot a password in my Keychain
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh1960.html
Mac OS X 10.4: Keychain Access asks for keychain "login" after changing login password...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1631

TS3276 Someone who receives my mail sent from Apple Mail cannot receive attachments or read my email even though they are on a Mac using Safari. How could they be using Safari to receive or read my mail?

Someone who receives my mail sent from Apple Mail cannot receive attachments or read my email even though they are on a Mac using Safari. How could they be using Safari to receive or read my mail?

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. This person receiving my email, while on a Mac with Safari is reading their mail through Safari using Horde--our recent discovery. Why they chose to do that in unclear. The last email we sent, however, was miraculously read and received and the attachment was viewed with no problem after we told them our mail was coming from a Mac thriugh Apple Mail. It seems that telling them that our emails were coming from a Mac and using Apple Mail was enough to make them think that perhaps THEY were doing something not quite right. Thank you both, Level 7 and Level 5.
But thank you especially for the meteorologists in the UK for putting forth the correct routes for Sandy these last days, you probably saved a lot of lives.

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