Apple Pro Res on Quad Core G5

Hi,
Does anyone know if it's possible to capture Pro Res & Pro Res HQ on the quad core version of the G5 Mac using a Kona 3 card. I've heard that the quad core model is of a high enough spec to be able to do this although apple suggests that only an Intel Mac can handle Pro Res.
Thanks,
Keith.

Hi, Pro res 422 Is already there in FCP 6 though the HDV to Pro Res capture preset does not appear until 6.0.2. I use this regularly on a PPC G5. Go here for full details.
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/capture_hdv_prores_fwbalis.html
This should answer your question if I understand you correctly

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