Apple RAID Card help needed

OK, new Mac Pro with Apple RAID card and three drives. Discovered RAID 5 is not setup as shipped.
Thought I would need to run Disk Utility, told no it's RAID Admin, but found out it's a app called RAID Utility, so I set this up. Also found out I could "migrate" existing OS X Server volume on Drive 1 to the RAID 5 without reinstalling... but after migration, found one partition with the OS and another empty partition. Are there any tools to expand the existing Partition 1 to include space on Partition 2 with the OS, without destroying/reinstalling it? Thanks - Lewis

You could open Disk Utility and click the RAID volume. Under partitions, see if you can make it 1 partition and retain data.

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How do I determine what needs attention on my Apple RAID card?

Every time I turn on the computer, I get a message that says," The Apple RAID Card installed in your system requires your attention."
This is what I have: RAID 065-7214 Mac Pro RAID Card
Why do I keep getting this message? I am not sure what needs to be done to rectify any error. If there is no error and the warning is just due to battery charging, then I would like the warning to stop appearing--or do I just have to continuously click "Ignore"? Any insight into this?
When I open RAID Utility it says: RAID set R0-1 has been mounted with indeterminate data loss. ( Is this just due to improper shutdown?)
Also: Controller reports RAID system 72-hour battery reserve unavailable-System is configured to run without battery.
Message was edited by: Darlyne

I have had the exact same error message. When you open Raid Utility (that is where you can read what "attention" is needed you will see under the "Status" section what happened, and under the "Tasks" you will see the raid card "initializing" your RAID set. The first time I saw this I freaked, thinking that my drives were being reformatted, and my data would be lost. This is not the case. If you look down on the left side, you will (hopefully) see green lights next to your drives. The initialization seems to be a verification of the raid structure -- basically checking to make sure everything is redundant.
So, back to the original question: it seems from my poking around that you SHOULD NEVER TURN OFF your Mac Pro with an Apple Raid Card installed. The firmware is not able to spin down the drives correctly, so when you turn your machine back on, you get the error message we have been discussing.
I would recommend you get a good battery backup (UPS, like an APC) and just power off your monitor when not using your machine. I did not see this in the documentation, I am not 100% sure, but this is what I will be doing. In my case it takes many hours for the Raid Util to initialize my Raid again.
Hope this helps.
Theo

New drives help for APPLE RAID Card RAID Redo

Hi,
I've been happily using an Apple 3,1 MacPro with Apple RAID Card installed and connected to 4-500 GB Apple OEM drives. I'd like to redo my setup and replace the Apple drives with bigger drives. Someone said I could only use up to 2 TB drives - is this correct?
Has anyone done this or anything like it using Seagate Drives that are not Apple OEM. Will that work OK or will the Apple RAID Card want to see Apple OEM drives? Apple sells 2TB Seagates, but they cost a lot compared to non-OEM drives, but will cheaper generic Seagate Barracuddas work OK in every way?
Also, after accomplishing this upgrade, I'd like to upgrade this machine to the latest Lion and possibly even Moutain Lion System Software. Any issues perceived?
To reiterate, I'd like to increase my storage to the max in my Early 2008 MacPro3,1 which has the Apple RAID Card utilizing a RAID5. This is spec'd at "4 - 3.0 Gbps Serial ATA (SATA) controllers" but no mention is made of what the MAX Size drives that will be addressed by the RAID Card.
Thanks, and so long for now, TOM

I thought it was an oxymoron to be using Apple RAID card, and to be happy.
It does not support drives larger than 2.2TB
Seagate's just seem to be more trouble. Any enterprise drive should do.
If you really really need RAID5 then maybe this card is useful, otherwise, no.,
There is much less than 300MB/sec x 4 in bandwith, they are shared and not independent, but the total is more like 800MB/sec maximum. Less overhead and other factors comes in more like 700MB/sec total max. \
SSDs have come a long way.
Use a PCIe cards to manage 2 x SSDs of 500GB up to 1TB
Use Disk Utility or SoftRAID 4 to manage 2-4 drive mirror or stripe arrays
10.8.4 has a bug that interferes with using 3TB and larger drives, just introduced bug.
This is the FIRST time there have been limits on drive size. And Apple RAID card. Seems the card is not getting updated firmware to address the need for larger drives. For those using SAS it is also a viable candidate.
SSD on its own to hold the system. 4 x 2TB WD Black for data and media storage. 4 x SSDs for scratch and graphic catalogues and media... all depends what your goal and use and type of programs.
No you do not need to use Apple's.
I cannot vouche for or seen someone doing so but I would hope that WD RED series would be suitable.

Work Around Help: Apple RAID Card & Boot Camp

-Hello and thanks for taking the time to read my post and possibly provide me with a solution.-
I have the newest Mac Pro (early 2009) and the apple RAID card.
I want to be able to run boot camp with winXP, but it appears from talking with tech support that the 3x SAS 15,000 rpm drives (RAID 5 config) with the RAID card does not support boot camping. I guess the RAID card is still unsupported through windows/boot camp?
I have a 1tb 7200 rpm drive spare.
Is there a work around to get boot camp to run natively (no virtual machines via Parelles or VMware Fusion please) on my computer? What options for running boot camp do I have?
Can anyone out their solve my issue?
Kind regards,
Will

Is there a work around to get boot camp to run natively?
Hi,
Unfortunately, Apple does NOT support Boot Camp when the Apple RAID card is installed.
What I would suggest is to remove the Apple RAID card and insert a SATA hard disk into the Mac Pro. At this point, you can install Mac OS on it (using the Apple DVD) and then Boot Camp.
I know this is not the solution you are looking for but its the best I have
This is why I did not purchase the Apple RAID card and I cannot recommend it to users that would like to install Boot Camp.
Have fun!

Apple RAID Card (Early 2009) Firmware Update 1.1

The update is recommend for all Mac Pro (Early 2009) and Xserve (Early 2009) systems with the Apple RAID card.
This update provides several fixes, including:
Reliability improvements during boot and power fail recovery
Improves handling of hard drives with bad blocks
Improves RAID 1 read performance
Improves hard drive compatibility with non-Apple drives
Improves support for systems with 48GB or larger memory
Improves battery handling and reporting
This update requires Mac OS X v10.5.8 or Mac OS X Server v10.5.8 or later. You will need to restart your computer as part of the update process.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3831
After this update has successfully completed,
your RAID Firmware Version will be: E-1.3.2.0
The updater application will be installed in the /Applications/Utilities folder and will launch automatically. Please follow the instructions in the updater application to complete the update process.

I have a few of these RAID cards in a couple servers, and then I have an earlier version of the RAID card in a few different servers.
The earlier servers are running non-apple 1.5 TB drives. It will be interesting to learn if this firmware update will indeed allow me to boost the capacity by installing non-apple drives, as the firmware previously has not.
Ohh I'm excited to update and try! This will greatly help out if it does!

Apple Raid Card, multiple drives and volumes

Hallo,
my xserve (early-2008) has an Apple Raid Card and two 300GB SAS-drives installed (mirroring).
Is it possible to install a third disk (300GB SAS) and to use it as a separate Volume ?
Disk 1 (300GB SAS) - Apple Raid Card mirroring: Volume 1 (300GB)
Disk 2 (300GB SAS) - Apple Raid Card mirroring: Volume 1 (300GB)
Disk 3 (300GB SAS) - Volume 2 (300GB)
How do I have to set this up using Apple Raid Utility ?
Thanks for your help !

Is it possible to install a third disk (300GB SAS) and to use it as a separate Volume ?
Yes. Of course.
How do I have to set this up using Apple Raid Utility ?
No. A third drive should just appear on the desktop. You only need RAID utility if you want to add that drive to an array, which doesn't sound like the case here.

Apple RAID Card, 4 SAS drives, 1 bootable large striped volume?

I have an Apple RAID card and 4 SAS 250GB drives. I did the migration when I set up the RAID to give me 1 drive for my bootable OSX volume and the other 3 combined into unused unpartitioned space.
But I want all 4 drives combined and striped for one large bootable OSX volume. I'd prefer not to have to reinstall OSX to do this.
Do I need to buy a utility? Can I use Disk Utility or the Apple RAID Utility? I've done searches and read all the help and can't find an answer.

Is it possible to install a third disk (300GB SAS) and to use it as a separate Volume ?
Yes. Of course.
How do I have to set this up using Apple Raid Utility ?
No. A third drive should just appear on the desktop. You only need RAID utility if you want to add that drive to an array, which doesn't sound like the case here.

Windows and Mac Pro w/ Apple RAID card

It happened i have a need to run Windows natively on Mac Pro with Apple RAID card installed.
I know there is no Windows driver for that card, but i had a hope to bypass RAID card via connecting of internal SATA drive directly to iPass(SSF-8087) connector of Mac Pro's motherboard and using of that drive for Windows.
So, i've connected SATA drive this way and it works fine with OS X.
But i can't even try it with Windows because Mac Pro doesn't boot up from Windows installation CD if Apple RAID card installed
Empty black text console is all that i've got after selecting of Windows installation CD in EFI boot menu.
I need a suggestion how to bypass my problem, or generally speaking, how to install Windows onto Mac Pro with Apple RAID card.

I've tried that.
Installation and booting of WinXP passed OK if RAID card removed.
But i've got black screen again trying to boot WinXP after RAID card re-installed.

Is there a firmware update for the Apple RAID Card [early 2009 Xserve] that will take it beyond the E-1.3.2.0 version and allow it to see 4TB drives?

Is there a firmware update for the Apple RAID Card [early 2009 Xserve] that will take it beyond the E-1.3.2.0 version and allow it to see 4TB drives?

I have a few of these RAID cards in a couple servers, and then I have an earlier version of the RAID card in a few different servers.
The earlier servers are running non-apple 1.5 TB drives. It will be interesting to learn if this firmware update will indeed allow me to boost the capacity by installing non-apple drives, as the firmware previously has not.
Ohh I'm excited to update and try! This will greatly help out if it does!

Installing Apple RAID Card on original Mac Pro 1.1

After months of waiting, I finally received my ordered Apple RAID Card suggested by Apple Italia per upgrading my Mac Pro station to handle HD editing. OK. Great. the problem is that the inside of my Mac Pro does not resemble the illustrations in the manual and I can't find any instructions for mounting the card (it's the right one, on this site I found it and ordered the right one, the blue card) but I DON'T have the PCI Slider illustrated in the manual. Since you clame that I CAN install this RAID card (otherwise I wouldn't have bought it!) but I don't know if the absence of ANY sliding element in the place of the PCI Slider mentioned means that I have to connect wires, change the inside, go to an Apple Authorized Dealer (where I bought the thing!)? Can anyone help me?

The instructions can be found here for the first generation Mac Pro:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/MacPro_RAIDCardInstallation.pdf.
Not sure what you mean by 'PCI Slider'. If you can reference the step this component is mention in the manual it might help.

Installing, a Apple Raid Card

Hi All
I have got my hands on a Apple Raid card (Free), I have checked it all out and it is the correct model for my Mac Pro (early 2009 i believe). now came the fun bit
I opend the MP up and installed the card as shown in the instructions (not to hard as im tech savvy) turned it all on and nothing, no apple logo, just the white screen and the little apple bing startup sound.
do I have to do any prep first to install this ?
do I have to hold any special keys down on start up ?
I dont mind having to do a full frech install ? (I was planning this anyway with Mavericks just come out)
inside the MP I already have
20gb ram
ATI GPU
Blackmagic Intensity Pro (HDMI in/out)
Esata pcie card
any help would be fantastic

Hi ada mann,
If you are having issues with an Apple RAID card, you may find the following articles helpful:
Mac Pro RAID Card: Identification and compatibility
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3514
Mac Pro RAID Card and Xserve RAID Card: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1346
Regards,
- Brenden

CAN the Mac Pro deep-sleep with the Apple Raid Card?

So, reading through previous posts, there seems to be a problem (or 'feature' to charge the battery?) that prevents the Mac Pro from sleeping when the Apple Raid Card is installed.
Can users owning this setup corraborate? Is this indeed the intended way to work?
Thx,
Dan

as far as I know, deep sleep is only available for portable machines. if you meant regular sleep I cant help you because I haven't got a RAID card.
edit: I may have confused deep sleep with safe sleep… sorry.

Non-Apple RAID card with internal drives possible on 2009 model ?

Hello there,
I have decided against the Apple Raid card, since it does not support any other drives than the ones sold through the Apple Store and it also only supports up to 1 TB drives.
My goal is to have 3x 1.5 TB drives in a RAID 5 array.
Does anybody know any hardware Raid 5 capable adapters, that can be used with internal 1.5 TB drives & the early 2009 Mac Pro model ?
Cheers,
Martin

Once upon a time, in a land far far away, ATTO and LSI, and Adaptec mainly owned the storage market for Mac controllers, and even then in those happy times we heard there was Voodoo in the land, and a curse on what were the Rules of SCSI Voodoo, and one had to be careful that a drive really was certified and tested, and one had to insure which firmware version one was talking about, not just any which firmware - and controllers also had to be updated as well.
Signal processing over SCSI with good active termination, cable length, and 160 pins (and cable strands) (and no noise or crosstalk, good insulation).
If one did all of the above, and was careful, you were rewarded with a working storage controller and array and the best possible performance at the time.
And sometimes you could venture off the reservation... a little, and some drivers could patch and work around bugs in firmware or other problems - just as bugs in cpu, boot firmware, and microcode can be patched by the OS kernel. And people would pay for retail drivers, or they would have to rely on the vendor's bundled driver (that may only work on their own drives and no others).
Hard Disk Toolkit, Silverlining and others made name for themselves, amoung others that now have faded into oblivion for most.
But it still exists when you venture beyond consumer and pro-consumer devices and venture to use FC-SCSI, SCSI, and SAS. And taking a chance when you try to use off the shelf SATA storage products and solutions. There are times when OEM drives really are OEM-only and a good thing; and times to avoid.
And there is no list of any kind of successfully used non-Apple drives, though there is word-of-mouth of a few that definitely need to be avoided.

Apple RAID Card Firmware Update crashes

Early 2008 Mac Pro 2.8GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon
I'm trying to install Apple's RAID Card Firmware update on my 2008 Mac Pro (which yes, has a RAID card) and every time the update utility launches it immediately crashes because it couldn't load the CoreRAID framework:
Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreRAID.framework/Versions/A/CoreRAID
Referenced from: /Applications/Utilities/Apple RAID Card Firmware Update.app/Contents/MacOS/Apple RAID Card Firmware Update
Reason: no suitable image found. Did find:
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreRAID.framework/Versions/A/CoreRAID: mach-o, but wrong architecture
I've tried reinstalling the CoreRAID framework directly from the Mavericks install image with no luck. The same thing was happening with 10.8 and I was hoping 10.9 would fix it.
I did a lot of Googling and someone in a somewhat related issue suggested running "lipo -info" on the library. If that's helpful to anyone here's the output:
lipo -info CoreRAID
Non-fat file: CoreRAID is architecture: x86_64
but from that it looks like it should have no problem being run on my Intel Mac Pro.
Any help would be appreciated, it's annoying that Software Update keeps informing me that I have a pending update, and every time I log into my server I get a crash alert from the

Well, I went ahead and opened a support ticket on this.
Tech on the phone was not immediately able to come up with a solution, and has escalated it to engineering.
I am willing to bet that the RAID Card firmware update doesn't "know" about MP11.005D.B00 -- and will only install with MP11.005C.B08.
The question is this: What is the difference between MP11.005D.B00 and MP11.005C.B08 -- and does this impact the Hardware RAID in any way?

Apple Raid Card: Raid-1 volume degrading

Hello,
I have 2 Raid-1 volumes running on a late 2009 mac pro with an Apple raid card. The second Raid volume has degraded now 3 times in the last 2 1/2 weeks. Raid utility is saying that the drive is damaged but when I shutdown, pull the drive out of the bay and push it back in and then restart it says that the drive is good. After assigning it as a spare the Volume rebuilds and lasts about a week until the same thing starts all over again. Perhaps the drive is somehow damaged but it seems more like a connection problem. If this is a familar issue to anyone and someone has a suggestion it would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe you need to do a full surface scan for bad or weak failing sectors.
Next time it drops out (or whenever you decide to remove it manually).
Use Disk Utility to Initialize with Write Zeroes option. This takes several hours.
If it completes without any error messages at all, it should then be good to use.
If Bad Blocks are found, they will generally be spared out by this process, and the drive can be good to use for a while, but is likely to fail within 6 months. You should consider moving it to light-duty or occasional use, such as backups.
Sometimes the Initialization will fail. If the drive is still under warranty, return it to the manufacturer for a refund/replacement. Original Apple drives have a one-year warranty, same as your Mac. Manufacturer warranties are often (but not always) 3 years or more.

Apple RAID Card help needed

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