Apple RAID card II - will it work in single CPU Mac Pro 4,1?

Will the Apple RAID card work in a quad core 2009 Mac Pro?  I'm refurbing a used Mac Pro I got at a great price and just wondering if I can put in this card (which was "thrown in" with a used 8 core I also bought) with the idea of doing a RAID 10 to experiment with getting top disk read/write performance. I know most do not like the Apple RAID card II but it might be a cost effective way to max out performance on the single CPU, quad core Mac Pro. Ultimately I want to falsh the firmware to 5,1 and upgrade the CPU to a W3690 hex core. I plan to use this box for photography, light video and possibly sound editing. If my plan will result in high benchmarks and provide some fault tolerance I'm comfortable with using the card. I have heard from other users that the new card is much better than the first version and that it actually works pretty well. Any insights appreciated.

Heck!
Im about to win an eBay auction for a blue Apple RAID card together with a pair or SAS 300gb cheetah 15.5k discs for 75 bucks *happy*. Would have been healthy fast upgrade for small investment I thought?!
Guess it probably would have been if the thing worked!?
Why doesnt it work? iPass cable or something like that?
Suppose I still want to go the SAS route with those drives for performance. Any other cards not too expensive that will enable SAS in the Pro?
I use my MP 4,1 as a photo edit workstation but I also keep it on 24/7 for home server, web server, nas, backup etc. So i like to use items that are made for round the clock usage.
Or i just get inexpensive SATA drives and SoftRAID them. So RAID 0+1 is no problem in software RAID?
Thank you guy for quick informed response

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    Message was edited by: Darlyne

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    Power Pig wrote:
    "Hesitant to plunk down $160 on a new spare disk if the present one isn't actually dead ...
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    RS1           RAID 5     1,2,4      5.23TB    0.00MB  Rebuild: 0% complete     
    I was talking about this.
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