Apple's approach to OS major OS revisions?

I purchased a new 24" iMac one month before the new models were announced (sniff). I don't want to be in the same situation again. I'm in the market for a new Mac mini, but with the pending October release of Leopard, should I wait, or does Apple have a grace period where they will provide the updates free if the hardware is purchased within a certain time frame?

They usually do have a "grace period", but it is generally not very long. Since you do not know precisely when Leopard is coming out, you do not know at what point it will be safe to buy a Mac that still has Tiger installed and be assured of being able to upgrade to Leopard at low/no cost. If it were me, I'd wait.
Regards,
Steve M.
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