Apple Thunderbolt Adapter Questions

I just bought a new iMac.
I still use FireWire peripherals, including a tape-based HDV camcorder.
I just bought two of Apple's Thunderbolt-to-FireWire Adapters. These adapters serve as "patch cables" to convert Thunderbolt to FireWire 800.
I have a couple of questions about the Thunderbolt interface.
1: If I want to connect other Thunderbolt peripherals (such as a Thunderbolt display, or Thunderbolt hard drives) down the road, both of my Thunderbolt ports on the iMac will be occupied . What choices do I have for Thunderbolt splitters/hubs?
2: Regarding the Thunderbolt-to-FireWire adapter: what other cable/patch/adaptor do I need to connect this adaptor to a DV or HDV camcorder?

1: Buy Thunderbolt devices with two Thunderbolt connections so they can be daisy-chained and leave a free Thunderbolt port for the FireWire adapter. Also the Appl Thunderbolt display includes a FireWire 800 port, so doesn't need a FireWire adapter.
2: DV cameras usually use 4-pin FireWire, so you will need to adapter from 9-pin (FireWire 800), such as:
<http://store.apple.com/ca/product/HA834ZM/A/belkin-firewire-800-99-pin-cable-94- pin-adapter>
or
<http://www.amazon.com/CiTi-FireWire-Cable-IEEE-1394B-Firewire/dp/B002U5F56W>

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I know this product works on our network providing an information service via a cable connection to TVs throughout the building, from a 1.25Ghz eMac.
My questions, however, are: Can I connect an 1.25GHz eMac directly to a single TV using a composite video cable or only via the s-video port. If a composite cable connection works what has to be done to tune the TV in to the eMac output?
If S-video is the way to go... are there any recommendations/restrictions with regard to cable length?
Hope I'm making sense (and that I have posted to the correct forum).
Thanks in advance.

If the TV has a S-Video connector, use it. It will give a sharper picture than composite video. If all you have is composite, use that. The TV should have an input selector to choose S-Video or composite. If the set has no video input you will need a RF modulator to convert the S-video or composite video to RF to feed into the TV's antenna input.

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Will the Apple external isight firewire web cam work on the macbook air through the Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter.

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Does the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter work w/ W540?

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Hi DIgitalsmear
I bought one of this adapters to connect my firewire audio interface to my lenovo carbon X1 which has a thunderbolt out. And atm i have no proper connection going on, but i'm not yet sure whether it is because of the adapter or something else.
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HT5299 i have an apple cinema display circa 2005. what thunderbolt adapter do i need in order to be able to plug it into a current mac mini?

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see > I have an Apple Cinema Display ADC. What adapters do I need to hookup my ADC connected monitor to my Mac Mini.
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Using Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter for Apogee Duet

My question is two-fold.
I currently run Logic Pro 9 on my mid-2011 I-Mac. I am looking into purchasing a new apple laptop to run Logic Pro 9 on mainly for the advantage of portability. From what I have read so far I would benefit from the processing power of a Macbook Pro over the Air. Does anyone have input on this or experience running Logic 9 on these newer machines?
The second part of my question involves my recording audio interface -- the first generation firewire apogee Duet. If I were to get a new generation laptop it would not come with a Firewire 800 port. To circumvent this I would need the adapter linked below:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r
The reviews indicate that it is not great for bus-powered external drives. Would the Apogee interface be in the same boat as these?
Would I want to trust sending audio signal through and from the computer with an adapter in between?
Any input or experience with this would be awesome. At worst, I could use a newer laptop for mixing and not tracking. And then upgrade my audio interface to the newer generation Duet at a later time.
Thanks!

I've been searching for such a device too. I need to perform a data transfer to MBA from a MBP and FW800 drive. For now, I can hook it up to a MBP and use AirDrop or simple wireless transfer...
This site keeps news on new peripherals: http://thunderboltreviews.com/
The Belkin Dock looks promising, but still expensive. Simple adapters are still aways and the first ones out are going to cost a pretty penny still (~$30-$40 is my guess). The dock from Belkin may be worth the cost in that sense. Except it seems to need an external power source.
Sigh, Thunderbolt hasn't really come out with a bang, but just more of a sizzle...sorry for the pun.
Someone had come up with a concept Apple Thunderbolt Pro Display. It was pretty cool. Built-in discrete graphics card, bluray superdrive, and all the ports you would ever need (among other things). Oh how I wish Apple would be willing to build such a thing.
Anways, let me know if you find a simple TB to FW800 adapter.

Apple Thunderbolt Display-Connection confusion!

OK, I have quite a lot to explain here so this is going to be a big post.
In September, I'll be going to University to study Computer Games Animation and as such over the past few months I've sorted out the computer I need for the course, or I thought I did anyway. I intended to buy a Mac Pro (the upcoming model, following the rumours of an early August update for 2011) and two Apple 27" Cinema Displays. Along with this, I was going to purchase the Atlona HD620 (on one side of the device there is an MDp output and HDMI output to put in your Mac and 360 into and the other side is another MDp output to your display) to connect my Xbox 360 to one of the displays (MDp). I was aware that the HD620 doesn't work with the 2011 iMac due to Thunderbolt and thus it was possible I would run into the same problem with the new Mac Pro and displays. I kept my plan however and decided I'd look into it when the time came.
....and then it did.
Yesterday as I'm sure you're aware, Apple went and released the new Thunderbolt Display which did away with MDp completely. I looked into the new displays and Thunderbolt and as I now understand it, Thunderbolt is backwards compatible with MDp but obviously, MDp can't be forward compatible with Thunderbolt. In other words you can insert a Thunderbolt input cable into a MDp output but you can't insert a MDp input cable into a Thunderbolt output (right?). This would make sense regarding the HD620 and the new iMac as the iMac only possesses a Thunderbolt output forcing you to input Mdp from the HD60 into the Thunderbolt and thus, doesn't work.
This however is not the case with the Thunderbolt display. As I'm sure you're also aware, the Thunderbolt display possesses an output AND the built-in Thunderbolt cable. Now I wonder if using the Thunderbolt cable into the MDp output on the HD620 would work? The HD620 would then be connected to the Mac Pro via the Apple Thunderbolt cable from the (highly presumed) Thunderbolt output on the Mac Pro into the MDp output on the other side of the device and I'm hoping this would work. I'm also wondering, despite using Thunderbolt cables between the Mac Pro and the display, even if this does work, would the MDp element on the HD620 cancel out the USB outputs, speakers, FaceTime camera and mic functionalities on the display?
I hope this makes some sense, I've been rattling my brain over this for months and as much as I love the new displays, it's a real pain that they've come out now and shaken my plans. I hope there are members here who know what they're talking about a lot more than I do on the subject, my understanding here could be completely mistaken. Infact the more I think about it and the more I learn, the less confident I become. If this isn't right, is there any way this set up could work?
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I'm in the same predicament. I'm making a series of purchase decisions, and unfortunately some are on hold until I can arrive to a solid conclusion. To give you some insight, I had the MacBook air with the MDp and just switched to a MacBook Air with the Thunderbolt primarily because I have a iMac 27" w/ Thunderbolt at the office i wanted to use as a external monitor.
With that said, I'm still waiting to decide on what to buy for the home to extend the MacBook Air as I have four choices:
- Cinema Display 27" w/ Mini DisplayPort
- Thunderbolt Display 27"
- iMac 27" with Thunderbolt (similar to office) (used in target display mode from time to time)
- iMac 27" with Mini DisplayPort (used in target display mode from time to time)
The burning question is, how do you plan to use the display and then determine if compatibility exists in those methods. In my case, I plan to use the display from OSX as well as Windows via Bootcamp. It turns out, through relentless research with a visit to the Apple store and purchases, I arrived to the colusions here:
http://mike952.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/thunderbold-and-minidisplay-mac-compatib ility-101/
It seems Mini DisplayPort works all around, meaning I can reboot and the display works even prior to the OSX loading, in BootCamp, etc. This lends credulence that the DisplayPort monitor will work with any DisplayPort device be it an XBox 360 or your latest cable box, whatever.
With thunderbolt, it seems as though the two end points need to be thunderbolt as they need to negotiate with each other and agree on how to transfer the video stream. This is validated somewhat with my bootcamp partition on my iMac 27" at work. When I boot into bootcamp, I cannot get the iMac27" to work in target display mode via the thunderbolt to thunderbolt with either mini displayport or thunderbolt cables. This is also documented on Apple support. However, Bootcamp does work fine with an iMac27" with Mini displayport and the thunderbolt MacBook via a mini display port cable (not a thunderbolt cable).
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With the iMac 27" thunderbolt, the devices need to be synchronized via thunderbolt in order to achieve the target display mode (meaning, they need to be on, macbook needs to be open to use the Command + F2) and there after you can close the MacBook to use the iMac 27" as the monitor.
With the newly released ThunderBolt display, and this is where I'm curious and wish Apple will step in and answer so I can make my purchase decision now, the question is will this display auto-synchronize with thunderbolt source (a requirement for it to work seamlessly when plugged in) and if so, this means their must be some software/hardware running in the monitor to accomplish this. Is this sync still broken when booting to BootCamp?
In other words, will BootCamp work with the thunderbolt display despite it not working with the iMac27" in target display mode?
As a software engineer, I'm inclined to say there are a few possible solutions here:
- firmware option to use thunderbolt port as a mini displayport and operating systems see it as so allowing for interoperability skipping the thunderbolt negotiation step
- bootcamp update allowing Windows to work with thunderbolt port similar to mac, allowing for negotation and the invokation of Command + F2 on iMac 27" and presumably auto negotiation and display iwth the Thunderbolt Display 27"
- some inteligent thunderbolt powered adapter which, when plugged in, tricks any device into seeing a mini displayport monitor and allowing it to function as so be it the iMac 27" in target dispaly mode OR the Thunderbolt display operating simply as a former cinema display. Whoever comes up with this adapter will be a millionair over night.

Apple Video Adapter Blew my Inverter and HELP?

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Well..Apple Palo Alto fixed my machine in one day. I'm very impressed. Unfortunately, I couldn't de-authorize my machine (ITMS) prior to the midplane replacement so now iTunes isn't working since it thinks it is authorized or something. I'm trying here, but any suggestions would be good.
In summary. A) Good people at Apple told me to switch drives to my other imac to backup and this worked fine. B) Repair was completely quickly and machine works.
C) If you have this situation with authorization: 1) Open terminal, type cd /users/shared then type mv "SC Info" "old_SC Info". 2) Create a new user (I did w/ admin). 3) login to the new user account, launch itunes and try to deauthorize (you should get a message you aren't authorized) so buy a free song and authorize. Login to your original user and try itunes (shoudl work) delete the newer user and you can remove "old_SC Info" or keep it if you so choose.
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I assume this all stems from the same issues you are having. There is a glitch in either the video driver or the new core for video that they have not fixed yet.
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Can you afford a new Thunderbolt case and cable? any case with FW800 is going to be slow 72MB/sec and less, and any new 1TB drive is capable of 75MB/s minimum up to 125MB/sec.
Thunderbolt storage can of course when setup properly reach 100's of MB higher using multiple drives.
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G-Technology 1TB G-DRIVE mini High-Speed Portable Hard Drive
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Sorry it won't work. It will fit but the laptop can't communicate with it. Please see many of the other threads here, specifically this one just above your post, that is discussing this exact question.
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take
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