Apple Treats Mac Pro Users Third-class Customers

I have been disappointed by the fact that the latest ATI Radeon 4870 devoid of compatibility for the Mac Pros manufactured in 2006/7.
However, for once I thought it was a good news for a Mac Pro user like me when nVidia announced they will be releasing the GeForce GTX 285 for Mac Pro in June, only to be extremely disappointed that the upgrade again precludes the 1st generation Mac Pro.
So this is how Apple-nVidia/ATI pact treats its Pro customers...? Third-class...?

So Intel stopped production of the 5300-series Xeon. They needed to put their resources (R*D and everything else) into new Core i7 / Nehalem. That doesn't make any business sense.
DDR3 has a lot of advantages and improvements. Less heat and lower power requirements, "greener" than those slower hot high-latency FBDIMMs.
EFI64, or UEFI, wasn't finalized until 2008, so Intel wasn't ready with 64-bit EFI either.
Today's systems will help build tomorrow's OS and applications, same as last year's.
Poor Quad G5. It's life was over 6 months after it left the factory.
If yours can run Tiger, there is a good market. I could sell mine for half, and buy a 2008 and come out pretty much ahead of the game, with nearly 3 yrs use.
Graphics may have its best year ever, and I'm sure someone will conjure how to make it work, so if you really must have GTX285 and run Mac Pro 3,1 rather than build a $1800 PC, you can.
Upgrading graphics has always been very limited. Adding RAM and disk drives, and being able to add PCI storage as such is what it was sold as, and no one said that three yrs later a 1st gen could run things that didn't yet exist.

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