Apple tv and home sharing using lots of data??

Just purchased apple tv and turned on home sharing to listen to songs in my iTunes library through my home theater. I am not streaming video or listening through iCloud. My satellite data usage went through the roof. About 350MB in alittle over an hour. I unplugged the apple tv and still had usage. About 50 MB the next hour. I turned off home sharing and the bleeding stopped. That type of continuous datat usage would consume my monthly data allowance in no time.
Without a solution I will have to return my apple tv. :( Please help. Thanks

Is some broadband use to be expected. I would not have thought so but perhaps I am wrong. Any help, insight or information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

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Apple TV and Home Sharing "An error occurred loading this content"

Recently I moved and switched my homeshare library from my Mac to a Window8 PC. I'm running the same network equipent, but the bandwidth to the internet was less in the new place then the old one so I wanted to store more on the PC. My bandwidth to the internet is slow at times so I like to download to my PC and watch the shows on my appletv. I thought it might be a Windows 8 issue, but I powered up my Mac Pro (2008) again and it has the same problem. I thought it might be a WIFI issue so I ran network wires, same issue. The only new thing I can think that happened was the apple tvs recently took a SW update, I'm not sure what version they had before. (tend not too look at versions when things are working).
What I know:
All the shows play fine when I stream. (they can just take a 5-10m to start due to internet bandwidth, but they play fine).
Some shows play fine with homesharing (I have found no common thread between ones that do and don't).
All shows play fine on my PC in iTunes
Between my 2 AppleTvs (both running version 6.1) It is consistent which shows will play in home sharing and which will not. There have been a couple shows that will play on one but not the other and a couple shows that won't play one day but will the next day.
I have tried playing a show that will not play over and over for 10m. The status remains the same.
If the show has an option to resume playing or start from beginning. I'll be asked "Resume/Start over" first then be told "An error occurred loading this content"
The first time I try and play a show it takes 5-10 seconds to give me an error, repeat attempts typically take < 1 second to show the error.
Most shows on both my AppleTVs with home sharing return an error "An error occurred loading this content". I've tried running network wires, rebooting, holding menu and shift down to reboot, pulling power. I have examined the files that play versus ones that do not and they all appear to be in good working order. As an example. Episode 1, Season 2 of Big bang theroy plays fine, but Eposodes 2-5 don't, but then Episodes 6-8 do play ok. I find the same problem with Movies and Music Videos.
Setup Facts:
Asus Wireless Router is connected to my DSL modem into the Ausus router WAN port. The ASUS router creates a network 192.168.1.X my DSL has a 192.168.0.1 IP address.
On the AppleTV it has a valid IP address and I'm fairly confident the network is ok since I have NO issues streaming any shows from the internet via Music, TV shows, Movies, Hulu, Netflicks, etc.
PC is running Windows 8 and I've disabled all power reduction settings to be always ON. (Again some shows play fine, the ones that play seem to always play). Running itunes version 11.1.5.5
All the shows are ones I've downloaded iTunes. None of the shows are handbraked home videos.
AppleTV version 6.1 for both AppleTVs.
What I've tried:
Power Clearing Devices
Switching locations of Apple TV with different TVs
Trying Mac Pro and Windows 8 Home Shares
WiFi and networked
Changing HDMI Cables.
Every TV I have, 1: Sony (new), 1 LG (about 2 yers old), 1 Samsung (about 5 years old).
Any Adivce?

I have it working now.. BUT I still don't have 100% on both appleTVs. I'd guess it's closer to 99% (which is a huge improvement).
What I've done since:
First I verified that I had open on my firewall the correct ports. I use AVG Internet security so verified I had it setup ok. (this was after I tried a few times with it off). (this produced no improvement)
TCP
direction both ways
local ports 3689
remove port(s): all
remote addresses:all
UDP
direction both ways
local ports 5353
remove port(s): all
remote addresses:all
Might have been over kill, but I assigned both AppleTVs a fixed IP 192.168.0.200 and 201. by their MAC address on my router. I then added them to the whitelist in AVG Internet Security
I saved changes and rebooted my PC, AppleTVs and PCs
It still didn't work. (I described the above because when I tried removing them no shows played, so more an FYI if 100% of your shows don't play).
I then downloaded itunes (11.5) same version I was running.
I used 7-zip (winrar should work too) to unzip the file iTunes64Setup.exe into a folder iTunes64Setup. This is important, which I'll explain in the next steps.
I then ran the iTunes64Setup.exe and selected repair.
it then told me it could not find iTunes64.msi. which I gave it the directory iTunes64Setup that I had expanded the iTunes64Setup.exe into that directory. (Really apple??? This one anoyed me that it was in the EXE but I had to manually expand it and put it somewhere for you to refind )
It completed the setup and I rebooted my PCs and AppleTVs again.
I went to a show that was consistently not playing and it worked on both TVs. I'd say 99% are working fine now. What's special about the remaining shows I do not know. If the file was corrupt I would not expect to be able to play it on another appletv.
The few files that don't play:
I'm now convienced that my network is fine. with 99% playing ok. If it was an intermitent problem with the network I'd expect that re-attempts to play the shows would produce different outcomes.
What have I tried:
I've done a factory reinstall of the appleTV. (my advise is don't waste you time, it did nothing except eat up 30m of my time watching redownload and then entering passwords).
I've tried deleting the shows that don't play (which do play on my computer) and redownloading them (same outcome) (again, my advice would be don't waste your time). When I did a check of the files they redownloaded identically with only the creation dates different.
Open to move things to try. Any ideas anyone?

Does home sharing use my internet data?

I would like to be able to watch films on my iPod touch that are on my laptop via home sharing. As my iPod is always full of music, I don't want to have to delete music from my iPod everytime I want to watch a film. I have set up Home Sharing, and am curious as to whether my internet data is being used, as I have a download limit. Thanks

kitch1406 wrote:
The way I've always viewed it, is that it would be downloading them from my laptop and uploading them to my iPod. Is this not the right way to look at it?
sure.
so, the downloading part will involve your internet connection if your purchase content. once it is downloaded, the streaming to mobile devices (or Apple TV) from iTunes on your computer is purely over your local network.
if you rent content from the iTunes store (or on an Apple TV), the stream will obviously come from the iTunes store, i.e. via your internet connection.

Solution for Apple TV 2, Xfinity router, Ethernet connection and Home Sharing

I have read over the past week the problems people have been having configuring their Apple TV and Home Sharing. I was experiencing the same issues as others....until tonight. I finally got it to work with an Ethernet connection. Previously, I was only able to get it to work via wifi and home sharing would drop after awhile.
1) Xfinity router settings. Like others I was suspicious if the Xfinity router was causing the issues because of the separation between wifi network and Ethernet network. It's not the router problem. I disabled the firewall. Enabled port forwarding. Gave a static IP address to the Apple TV. Added forwarding of ports
   123 TCP
    3689 UDP (all other support says this should be TCP but searched through and found a thread that suggested changing to UDP...this was the key)
    5353 UDP
    80 TCP
    443 TCP
    53 TCP
DMZ is off
Device discovery is disabled
Port triggering is disabled.
The wifi is setup and functional using DHCP. Lease time is 1 week.
RESET ROUTER AFTER ENTERING CONFIGURATION.
2) Mac computer. As of this posting the latest version of iTunes installed. Latest Safari version. All programs updated. Turned on Home Sharing. Turned off firewall. Gave Mac a static IP address. Set Mac for hard drive to never sleep. Set monitor to sleep after 15 minutes. Set date and time to automatically find based upon time zone. ( Apple TV needs to be set to the same time zone as computer and set to manual). Enabled file sharing amongst users on Mac.
3) Apple TV. Ethernet connection. Configured TCP/IP to static IP address I configured on router for the Apple TV. Turned on AirPlay. Set date and time to manual and set as the same time zone as the computer with iTunes. Turned on Home Sharing. Using latest version of Apple TV.
Once the router was reset ( not restored and not just resetting the wifi. A complete router reset), the Apple TV found my iTunes library. It's been running now for over an hour and no drop in the home sharing. Working beautifully. I will be testing in the next couple days allowing the Apple TV to sleep, turning the firewall on the router to a minimal setting to see if it changes anything.
Just tested the AirPlay from my iPad 2 to the Apple TV while the Apple TV is connected via ethernet connection and it works. At this point it appears that the setup is correct and complete with no errors.
As a side note, the Ethernet connection between my router and Mac is via commercial devices using the power outlets as the wiring.
Hope this helps many of you that were/ are struggling to get this to work like I was.

spma3,
Appreciate your further message. As you say "it's not fixed", but at least your solution appears to be a viable workaround!
My Cisco RVS4000 Router will permit me to forward ports for up to 15 applications. Of these, thirteen already have default entries added, although none of these are presently Enabled. For example, here's just 2 lines...
Application           HTTP        NTP
External Port          80           123
Internal Port           80            123
Protocol                TCP          UDP
IP Address            No entries at both
and the Enabled box for both is unchecked. In fact none of these 13 possibilities is Enabled.
To do what you are advising, I would need to...
1) Enable the above Port 123 entry, changing it from UDP-->TCP.
2) Add new entries for 3689 UDP & 5353 UDP... using the two free slots at the end of the table.
3) Select three of the default entries, and reconfigure them for 80 TCP; 443 TCP; 53 TCP, all as per your guidance. And Enable them.
Now, my present setup here has...
1) My PC is wired straight to Port 2 of the Router, and has a Static IP Address set.
My new ATV2 is hard-wired into the same subnet, albeit thru a series of switches, and again a Static IP is set. My understanding is that hard wiring an ATV automatically disables its WiFi.
3) My wife's iPad2 is set for DHCP, so it can pick up an IP Address when on the move. It connects into the LAN using one of two WAP4410N Wireless Access Points. Ch-1 & Ch-6, with same SSID and security stuff set up on both. The WAPs in turn are wired in, again with Static IPs set. So depending where she is in the property she can connect with excellent signal strength, reaching the ATV2 by WiFi+LAN.
On the Router DMZ is OFF, Port Range Triggering has no entries, nothing is Enabled, so is OFF. No idea about Device Discovery!
Home Sharing is ON for the PC, ATV2 and iPad2, with the same Apple ID/Password set for each. It does work, just not consistently as it should.
So to fully implement your idea, all I need to do is to enter these details. But I am unclear which IP Address I should put in at each new Single Port Forwarding entry field. Certainly not the iPad2, as its DHCP allocated value will change. Is it the ATV2 or the PC? Not sure, please clarify.
BTW, I have no plan to deactivate my AVG Firewall on this PC. It is happy to pass all traffic related to iTunes, so cannot see this as a factor. Time zone same on all equipment.
I tried with just 3689 UDP and 5353 UDP yesterday, and things were definitely better. I used 192.168.20.227, the IP Address for the ATV2.
Look forward to your answer.

Two apple TVs, 4 computers and home sharing

We have four computers that work well with our Apple TV and home sharing. Is it possible to have a second Apple TV operate on the same network and stream content to a second TV? I seem to recall there was a limit to the number of computers that could be a part of home sharing but I don't recall if there was a limit to Apple TVs
Thanks.

You can have up to 5 first gen models connected to each mac, the five limit counts but macs and Apple TVs have a five count each not between them.
I'm not really sure how many second gen models you can have but it's certainly more than one, I'd imagine at least five and likely more - because it's homeshare not an authorised device.

HT202213 Does Home Sharing use up data allowance?

Hi,
Does Home Sharing use up broadband data allowance, or is the data streamed between iMac and Apple TV kept just within the home using the wireless router? I'm unsure as the info on Apple's site says homesharing requires an active internet connection.
All I really want to do is stream photos and music from my Mac to the HDTV as it has the sound system hooked up to it. I don't want to have to use iCloud for this, as I don't believe the satellite connection is consistent enough.
I'm concerned as I only have a 3GB monthly allowance, and am on satellite broadband, so service is a bit patchy.
Any thoughts/solutions greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the Apple Community.
NZAidan wrote:
Hi,
Does Home Sharing use up broadband data allowance
No

HT4437 What is difference between air play and home sharing if you just want to show iPhoto's on HD tv through apple tv (just purchased MacBook Air and Apple tv)

What is difference between air play and home sharing when wanting to show photos on HD tv through apple tv? Just bought Mac book air and apple tv.

You would have to use home-sharing if streaming from a computer. Computer would need to be on and running iTunes.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4352
Airplay would be useful if streaming from an IOS device
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4437

Can't wake Lion over wifi (or ethernet) using iPad and home sharing.

I've upgraded to Lion and everything's fine apart from one problem: using my iPad to access home shared iTunes content on my mac no longer works when my mac is asleep.
That's a change in behaviour from Snow Leopard; I used to be able to sleep my mac and then wake it over wifi using either my iPad or iPhone to access all of my home shared libraries. The mac screen used to light up for ten seconds and then go dark again, but it served me the files.
Lion seems to go into a deeper sleep which it can't be woken from. If I attempt to wake my mac from my iPad within about ten minutes of putting my mac to sleep then home sharing seems to work and lets me use the home share libraries, but if I leave it any longer than that then the mac seems to fall into a coma and can't be woken. The weird thing is that I still see a "shared library" folder on my iPad, but when I click on it nothing happens. I think my Time Capsule is listening for wifi access and issuing the magic packet to the mac, but the mac just ain't listening.
I'm using a Time Capsule in bridge mode from an ADSL modem and I've accepted a TC firmware update last week and I'm on lion 10.7.3. I've tried using Ethernet to connect the mac to the TC (and temporarily disabled the wifi connection) but that still doesn't work. Also, note I'm NOT suffering from the problem that 10.7.3 seems to be giving a few other people - my mac reconnects to my wifi just fine when I wake it up manually. For the record, This was an upgrade, so there's still a tick in "wake on network" in power settings and home sharing on iTunes is still configured the same as it was before.
Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can get home sharing to work when my Lion mac is asleep please?
Jon

Jonathan:
The reworked release of the Combo came available the 2-nd or 3-rd of Feb, if you downloaded 10.7.3 complete after that date it will be OK already, no need to instal the Combo. But you can see the exact number of 10.7.3 in System Information/ Software panel: it should be 11D50b.....
fzahn:
I understand, I have TC and Extreme also, no need to set anything. And indeed I understand that it may be important for (as it is for me),
BUT even if it worked after you replaced the kext, I advise strongly not to read in an old kext over a new one, that may give other issues (you observed one already: Airdrop)... I hope you backed up the Lion one... for example such "replacing" was done in one (lousy) tool called TrimEnabler (to install Trim on a non-Apple SSD in the SnowLeopard OS): it replaced the whole kext. I read that there is a new version for Lion that just replaces the text piece that regards the identification for the Apple SSD's.... I do not dare to use such methods.... I advise to read the kext and compare the two (SL and Lion) and perhaps find a way to just replace the one string that is different (be sure it is precisely the same lenth in caracters)... BTW: after every update of Lion you have to do it again probably. Keep searching for a better way to solve your problem.
Did you do the firmware update of the TC and Extreme already?
BTW: there are two Airport Utilities for Lion: Airport Utility 5.6 and Airport Utility 6, the 5.6 is the "old" visual but in the new one 6 you can not change as many settings; if you want them both, change the name of the one you already have by putting the version number at the end of its name in Utilities, and install the other one, it will be installed additional not over.
Lex

If I use my husbands apple id for home sharing can i still use my own for downloading apps?

If I use my husband apple id for home sharing, can I also use my own to purchase apps and music?

Sorry, let me clarify. I have two Apple IDs A and B:
A: Used for iCloud. All my calendar, mail, contacts, and other iCloud features are here. This is the ID I use as "the" iCloud on my iOS devices and OS X machines.
B: Used only for purchases, on all my devices and machines. This is what I used to log into iTunes, or to buy apps for iOS or OS X.
The issue is that the only way (currently) to set up Family Sharing is to invite from an iCloud ID (A, in my case) on an iOS 8 device. That's not the ID (B) I use for purchases. The question is whether there's a way to share those purchases given that I'm configured on all my devices with A for iCloud. (Clearly if I somehow send invitations from B, I can share purchases; but that's not the question.)
It sounds like the answer to that question is 'No'.
If that's the case, how do I invite from B? Do I have to configure an iOS device with B as the iCloud ID? My problem isn't that I want to ("willy nilly") avoid inviting form B; it's that there seems to be no way (certainly no convenient way) to do that.

HT4352 I want to use a different apple ID for home sharing...how do I do it?

I want to use a different apple ID for home sharing...how do I do it?

If you want to share from a different account simply go into the settings and log in with that home-share ID

Why doesn't my itunes on my windows pc load on my apple tv? Home sharing is turned on and my ipad can see it!

why doesn't my itunes on my windows pc load on my apple tv?
Home sharing is turned on and my ipad can see it!

Welcome to the Apple Community.
Intermittent problems
Intermittent problems are often a result of interference. Interference can be caused by other networks in the neighbourhood or from household electrical items.
You can download and install iStumbler (NetStumbler for windows users) to help you see which channels are used by neighbouring networks so that you can avoid them, but iStumbler will not see household items.
Refer to your router manual for instructions on changing your wifi channel or adjusting your multicast rate.
There are other types of problems that can affect networks, but this is by far the most common, hence worth mentioning first. Networks that have inherent issues can be seen to work differently with different versions of the same software. You might also try moving the Apple TV away from other electrical equipment.
Consistent Problems
A frequent cause of consistent failure to enable AirPlay or HomeSharing at all, is the service being blocked on the network. Make sure your network isn't hidden, has a unique name, that MAC address authentication is disabled, security is set to use WPA 2 Personal and that there is only one router/device acting as a DHCP server and providing NAT services.
Make sure your router/computer allows access over the following ports
Port
Type
Protocol
Used By
80
TCP
HTTP
AirPlay
443
TCP
HTTPS
AirPlay
554
TCP/UDP
RTSP
AirPlay
3689
TCP
DAAP
iTunes/AirPlay
5297
TCP
Bonjour
5289
TCP/UDP
Bonjour
5353
TCP/UDP
MDNS
Bonjour/AirPlay
49159
UDP
MDNS (Win)
Bonjour/AirPlay
49163
UDP
MDNS (Win)
Bonjour/AirPlay
Refer to your router manual/manufacturer for any settings that are specific to that model.
Another frequent cause of consistent failure to enable AirPlay or HomeSharing at all, is security software, in many cases configuring it correctly, disabling it or even uninstalling it can help, but in some cases the security software can cause problems that simply reconfiguring, disabling or uninstalling cannot reverse.
If you are consistently unable to activate AirPlay, have tried all the steps in this article and have security software installed on your system, you might benefit from contacting its provider or participating in any online forums they run to discuss the matter with them.

Airplay and home sharing does not work with my 2nd gen apple tv

though my 2nd gen apple tv with version 7 and my iphone 4s with ios 8.0.2 are connected to the same wifi network, airplay and home sharing doesnt show up in my itunes nor in my phone! what should i do?

Hello there, Ashwin.
The following Knowledge Base articles offers up some great steps for troubleshooting issues with both AirPlay and Home Sharing, respectively:
Resolve issues with AirPlay and AirPlay Mirroring from iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts4215
and
Troubleshooting Home Sharing
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2972
Thanks for reaching out to Apple Support Communities.
Cheers,
Pedro.

I can't use home sharing because it says Bonjour is not enabled. So I went to administrative tools and started it. Restarted my computer and home sharing still isn't working

I can't use home sharing because it says Bonjour is not enabled. So I went to administrative tools and started it. Restarted my computer and home sharing still isn't working

I have also tried repairing Bonjour in adminstrative tools and still a no go! Frustrated!!! Looking for another idea

TS2972 I got a new computer. Apple TV states "to access your itunes on apple TV, turn on home sharing using.. I have done this. Still does not work

I got a new computer. Apple TV states "to access your itunes on apple TV, turn on home sharing using.. I have done this. Still does not work. Can anyone advise me on why - it was all working great before i switched computers

You mention doing all of the above, what would that be exactly?
The article linked above is for airplay, have you checked home sharing tips?
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2972

Remote app and home sharing

remote app & home sharing worked on my new iPad (3rd gen) but did not work on my iPhone 4. this went on for a week or so but now both of them (remote app and home sharing) work on my iPhone but stopped working on iPad. I tried re installing itunes to 10.6.1.7 (latest version) with no luck. please help because i prefer using my ipad to control my pc

Be sure that all devices are on the same network.
If apple tv and remote are on same homeshare you should be able to select and control the apple tv from with in the remote app.
If apple tv and the itunes are on the same homeshare the apple tv will see the itunes library (and shared photos) in the computer section.
Additionally if these are all on the same homeshare you should see both the apple tv and the itunes library in the remote app.
hope that helps.

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