Apple vs. Third Party memory

I'm looking to upgrade the memory on my 2010 Mac Pro, 2x2.4ghz Quad-Core Xeon processors currently with just 6gb. I have two empty slots and ideally would like to drop in two 8gb modules.
Looking at the Apple Store they want $500 each for the 8gb, which is absolutely insane: http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_MACPRO_S10_RAM
Looking at the specs of the compatible memory, I found this at a local computer store which seems to match: http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_611&item_id=48281Q
Is there something I'm overlooking here, any issues with using third-party memory? A spec that will not allow this to actually be compatible?
Thanks

Is there something I'm overlooking here, any issues with using third-party memory?
YES. These guys say, we might have some of this, we might not. We might ship it soon, we might not. It might work in your computer, it might not. If you send it back, we charge you a 15% restocking fee.
The Vendors you should be dealing with say:
• We know Macs.
• You tell us what Mac, we send you RAM that meets Apple specs and is guaranteed to work in your Mac, or your money back.
• If it EVER fails, we will replace it free.

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The letter states "During the testing process, it was
determined that a part Apple has not approved for use
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(then it checks RAM in the space provided."
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Just because you are not familiar w/the website, the OP should steer clear? <Edited by Host>
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(If this isn't the proper venue for suggestions, please forward this accordingly)
If anyone knows of some shareware/freeware/commercial ware out there that already does this, PLEASE share the info here.
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"If this isn't the proper venue for suggestions, please forward this accordingly"
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Anyone who would like to explore this idea, please feel free to contact me – [email protected].

You've just learned a hard lesson. Put your current energy into your education, not finding a way to wallow in ignorance.
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