Apple works opening an old file

trying to open a file get a window : An I/o error occurred. any clues how to open

AppleWorks 6.2.9 (the current version) can't open all ClarisWorks 4 or earlier files. It gives an I/O error. There doesn't appear to be a way to predict which files will cause problems. I've had it happen & not happen with all AppleWorks file types. These files can be opened by any other version of AppleWorks 6, so a good choice would be AppleWorks 6.2.4. AppleWorks 6.2.4 is the earliest version stable in OS X. Avoid 6.2.7 - very, very, very buggy! Hardcore Mac is selling AppleWorks 6.2.4 the last time I looked but only ships to the US & Canada. You also can sometimes find AppleWorks 6 on eBay, but it might be difficult to be sure it's no newer than 6.2.4 and has an OS X-aware installer.
There is no option other than an earlier version of AppleWorks 6 on an Intel or Leopard Mac or AppleWorks 5 on a Mac that can run Classic or OS 8/9. I have not had any problems opening AppleWorks 5 files with AppleWorks 6.

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    Path:            /Applications/Adobe Illustrator CS4/Adobe Illustrator.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Illustrator
    Identifier:      com.adobe.illustrator
    Version:         367 (14.0.0)
    Code Type:       X86 (Native)
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    Crashes Since Last Report:           5
    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  853 sec
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    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread:  0
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    1   ???                                     0x00000002 0 + 2
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