AppleTalk Gone, Network Printers Now Invisible

Despite Apple's claims that printing is now "easier," Snow Leopard has seriously mucked up network printing. Used to be I could Add a Printer, and under "Default" see all the available printers on the network; I could then Add a printer I selected and a driver would be applied, and that was it.
With Snow Leopard, AppleTalk is gone, and now the printers simply don't even show up, period. Apple tech support was unhelpful, suggesting that it was a problem for the printer makers which they suggested I call; I replied that they should know full well that the printer makers would not be of any help whatsoever--they usually take a year or more to get up to snuff with this kind of stuff.
It amazed me that Apple made this move without having a suggested fix prepared. The best the tech support person could do was to suggest that I move the files to a computer that could print and do my printing from there. Naturally, that is a completely unacceptable "fix," except for emergencies.
I wound up digging out my old Powerbook and setting it up in the office, enabling printer sharing; it works, but it means having a computer running just for that purpose.
Does anyone know a better workaround for getting network printers back up? In my office, we have a few Fuji-Xerox network copiers which have up-to-date drivers--it's simply a matter of getting Snow Leopard to see the printers at all in the first place. Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Luis Poza wrote:
Many help documents I have read about printing in Snow Leopard mention a submenu in the Print dialog called "Nearby Printers," presumably in the "Printer" drop-down menu. I don't see that. Is it contextual, or can it be activated somehow, or am I possibly looking for it in the wrong place?
I am beginning to get the feeling that something went wrong with my 10.6 install and somehow an important element for printing got broken....
From what I've seen, the "Nearby Printers" only show up if you have bonjour printers (or shared printers) available to add. The menu doesn't seem to appear at all if you don't have any bonjour printers on your network.

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