Appletalk on a ?

Hello can anyone help?
Its an unravelling spaghetti problem:
I have several old Apples/Macs and am looking for a way to get 3 of them to share stuff with one another so as to get them all running right!
They are an LC475, a Powerbook 1400c/166 and a Powerbook Pismo.
     The 1400 and the 475 both have Apple talk sockets and SCSI Ext Sockets - the G3 has neither.
     The 1400 and the Pismo both have Ethernet sockets (in the PB 1400 via a Kingston Ethernet PC Card)
     The 1400 and the 475 both have 1.44 floppy drives - the LC drive works fine - the 1400's drive does not
     The 1400 and the G3 both have CD Drives - the G4s works the 1400s does not.
     The G3 has USB the 1400 & LC475 do not
     The internal drives of the G3 and the 1400 work fine. The int drive of the 475 is not reacting but does show its name size and driver.
So no one means of connection, including exchange of int drives, floppies or CDs is feasible.
I have lots of Appletalk cables and links. Two of my computers that work...partly....;-) have appletalk/serial sockets.
- if I can get the 475s scsi drive to run the whole picture changes. Is there any way of doing so?
I know I can link two of them to the same router (saving the need for a X-over cable) but what software would I use to get them to work together?
Appleshare?
Colin

HI Jan
Me again Im afraid.
You may have seen my latest posting and Im sorry to monopolise your expertise like this but I am stuck.
1. History - I have bought a working Performa 475 and removed the Disk to replace the old LC 475 Disk. It booted first time with 7.n
                - the power supply in the LC 475 was working fine at this point but the Performa PS is now a spare in case....
                - the 32 MB memory card works ok too now!
               - the 4 GB flash memory works great: on the MBP + R/D with a USB 3 card reader, on the Pismo with the above or in the PCMCIA slot, on the Powerbook in the PCMCIA slot. No way to use it on the LC 475... yet!
               - the 2 GB SCSI HDD that was in the LC475 is now back in its housing
So you might think all was well....
2. Latest - my Apple Multi Scan 15 Display (M2978 Serial Number CY4471EW3AD Manufd Nov 1994 in Korea ) was working fine on the LC475 and on the Performa. It also works with the adaptor off the PB 1400. However, after installing the new HDD in the 475 I thought I should run through the Cps and Extensions to see which I needed to change settings for and when  I got to Monitors CP and I found an option for a larger number of colours and higher quality and (like a fool?) chose it. The screen went black right away and so far has resisted my efforts to reset it.
a. The Display works fine from the PB 1400 still! I can reset its settings but do they stay with the display when i close and detach the cable?
b. I have the Floppy Disk that came with the Display
c. I can't find the Display anywhere on the web - its not the same as the Apple Multi Scan 15 Display that comes up if you search - it doesn't have a reset button or a paperclip hole.
Because its gone black I can't tell what is happening when I put the floppy in so I can't select the CP or install the Original floppy that came with it.
What can I do? (sounding like 'Help me Obewan Kannobie...
Colin

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