Appletalk or IP Printing?

Should we still be using Appletalk in the 10.4.5 environment?
Setup: We have a small office network with everyone on 10.4.5 but have our old HP LaserJet 4000 for printing (on Local Zone). It comes and goes from the network, especially for those mobile staff members who come and go from the network with laptops (their old link to the printer in their list doesn't work).
Our network is compiled of a 2 D-Link GigaBit 10/1000 switches, G5 Server, DSL modem with static IP, and the D-Link Gaming router.
It feels like I should have the company buy a new printer that can use IP printing because it feels...OLD to have to turn on and off Appletalk to print.
Reactions?
Tips on new printer for our network?
Thanks
Jake

Like they told you on that other web site, moving to IP printing is pretty easy. Start by setting the IP address of the printer to a static value outside the DHCP range (example - all computers get IP addresses in range 192.168.1.10-50, so use 192.168.1.100 for the printer). I don't know that printer (does it have a front panel that allows you to set the IP address?), but I know two other ways to set the IP address. Use the Classic App HP LaserJet Utility (included in HP's OS 9 driver installers). Or, from the OS X Terminal, use telnet - type:
telnet [current printer IP address]
(and then follow help instructions)
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