Applications keep quitting - why?
Applications keep quitting on me - anything from word, to DVD player, to firefox. It's getting rather irritaing. Could it be my RAM? I bought a 512mb to go with the 256mb I already had. Admittadly I bought it from ebay, could it be corrupt or could it be something else?
Thanks
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9) First Generation
Welcome to Discussions - try using Rember to check your RAM, also, you can try switching the slots they are in, and running without the 512 stick. Hopefully you have a money back guarantee from the vendor. If the RAM proves to be bad, do buy the next stick from a place that gives you a lifetime guarantee and the right to return the faulty RAM.
Please post back and let us know what happened,
Miriam
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Chrome Crashing report:
Process:
Google Chrome [1346]
Path:
/Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome
Identifier:
com.google.Chrome
Version:
34.0.1847.131 (1847.131)
Code Type:
X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [273]
Responsible:
Google Chrome [1346]
User ID:
501
Date/Time:
2014-04-25 13:53:08.225 +0700
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: 2BE9F7D6-4419-441B-FC6D-1CA4EF1D7F7D
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: EXC_I386_GPFLT
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libicucore.A.dylib
0x9a600000 icu::TimeUnitAmount::getTimeUnit() const + 2
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d643 CFLocaleCreateComponentsFromLocaleIdentifier + 243
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d4e0 __CFLocaleCopyCodes + 80
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d34f CFLocaleGetValue + 671
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d0a8 -[__NSCFLocale objectForKey:] + 24
5 com.apple.Foundation
0x9662afba -[NSUserDefaults(NSUserDefaults) init] + 703
6 com.apple.Foundation
0x9662a552 +[NSUserDefaults(NSUserDefaults) standardUserDefaults] + 93
7 com.apple.AppKit
0x9b3882e8 +[NSView initialize] + 159
8 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28eb6 _class_initialize + 526
9 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28cdb _class_initialize + 51
10 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a2ede1 lookUpImpOrForward + 109
11 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28ca3 _class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache3 + 55
12 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a284e1 objc_msgSend + 81
13 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28199 call_load_methods + 740
14 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a27cc7 load_images + 61
15 dyld
0x8fea4dd7 dyld::notifySingle(dyld_image_states, ImageLoader const*) + 231
16 dyld
0x8feb2918 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 274
17 dyld
0x8feb28bb ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 181
18 dyld
0x8feb27bc ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 62
19 dyld
0x8fea505e dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 193
20 dyld
0x8fea8828 dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2603
21 dyld
0x8fea4264 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 430
22 dyld
0x8fea4077 _dyld_start + 71
Thread 1:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93170dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93174cce start_wqthread + 30
Thread 2:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c992 kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib
0x9883d8ad _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 238
2 libdispatch.dylib
0x9883d546 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93170dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93174cce start_wqthread + 30
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xbff310d7 ebx: 0x00000101 ecx: 0x9aa88014 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0xbff30fd6 esi: 0xbff30f6c ebp: 0xbff30f28 esp: 0xbff30efc
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010207 eip: 0x9a600000 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0xa06187dc
Logical CPU:
2
Error Code:
0x00000000
Trap Number:
13
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0x98832000 - 0x98839ff2 com.apple.NetFS (6.0 - 4.0) <915AA303-C02B-3B0C-8208-D8AAA4350DB4> /System/Library/Frameworks/NetFS.framework/Versions/A/NetFS
0x9883a000 - 0x98852ffd libdispatch.dylib (339.90.1) <871AC354-D1B6-3475-889E-AF594448CF43> /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib
0x98853000 - 0x98854fff com.apple.AddressBook.ContactsData (8.0 - 1369) <F973C097-C9A2-3B8D-A33A-A87E4A41E56B> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ContactsData.framework/Versions/A/ContactsDat a
0x98855000 - 0x9887ffff libxslt.1.dylib (13) <249D54AB-1D82-38FE-ABEC-0D575450C73B> /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
0x98880000 - 0x98883ff7 com.apple.help (1.3.3 - 46) <AB6292FA-D3BC-3D56-B3A5-2BE630A503E7> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framewor k/Versions/A/Help
0x98884000 - 0x988a1ff4 libsystem_kernel.dylib (2422.92.1) <20AE426A-E386-3119-A740-14E13CBD0596> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x988a2000 - 0x988a3ff7 com.apple.diagnosticlogcollection (10.0 - 1000) <B2525E0D-2BB1-3AF6-BDCA-56DCDC1F7DBF> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiagnosticLogCollection.framework/Versions/A/ DiagnosticLogCollection
0x988a4000 - 0x988e1ffb libGLImage.dylib (9.6) <EAC640A8-CD71-3AB2-9918-21CACCBCCB0D> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dyl ib
0x988e2000 - 0x988ebfff libsystem_notify.dylib (121) <623269F5-1518-3035-A916-8AF83C972154> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_notify.dylib
0x988ec000 - 0x988f4fff libsystem_dnssd.dylib (522.90.2) <A73663C9-CE65-3FF3-B41B-686728BBFB00> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_dnssd.dylib
0x988f5000 - 0x98beaff8 com.apple.CoreImage (9.2.7) <AD2199E4-B18B-3CFC-94C4-B1B8D20CFB8B> /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreImage .framework/Versions/A/CoreImage
0x98beb000 - 0x98c44ffe libTIFF.dylib (1042.2) <5589DBDB-4324-3DAE-8530-0B8273D3F21C> /System/Library/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libTIFF.dylib
0x98dd6000 - 0x98dd6fff com.apple.Cocoa (6.8 - 20) <407DC9E6-BBCE-3D34-9BBB-00C90584FFDF> /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
0x98dd7000 - 0x98ddeff1 com.apple.phonenumbers (1.1.1 - 105) <4279F426-BD5E-3716-A23E-5A718B01F466> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PhoneNumbers.framework/Versions/A/PhoneNumber s
0x98e7f000 - 0x98e99ff7 com.apple.GenerationalStorage (2.0 - 160.2) <8755F7F1-2402-387C-A32A-2270E7D680C8> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GenerationalStorage.framework/Versions/A/Gene rationalStorage
0x98e9e000 - 0x98eacff7 com.apple.Sharing (132.2 - 132.2) <87DBFC7A-9689-3B8E-AD16-5A9DFF9DE625> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Sharing.framework/Versions/A/Sharing
0x98ead000 - 0x98ebaff7 com.apple.AppleFSCompression (56 - 1.0) <0C44B3E4-C4A7-3A65-9C1A-334CA3E35BDB> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleFSCompression.framework/Versions/A/Apple FSCompression
0x98ebb000 - 0x98ebbffd libOpenScriptingUtil.dylib (157) <4D06E8ED-D312-34EA-A448-DFF45ADC3CE5> /usr/lib/libOpenScriptingUtil.dylib
0x98ebc000 - 0x98f27fff com.apple.Heimdal (4.0 - 2.0) <3DEF31F9-7F59-3DEF-9DC8-7DDD23CA816F> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Heimdal.framework/Versions/A/Heimdal
0x98f28000 - 0x991a4fe7 com.apple.QuickTime (7.7.3 - 2826.17) <E8F7EFCE-41FD-3E30-AAA5-5C232317E9D2> /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime
0x991a5000 - 0x991d6ffa libsystem_m.dylib (3047.16) <28E614E8-7802-3E84-960A-AD4721EF10F7> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_m.dylib
0x991d7000 - 0x99347fff com.apple.QTKit (7.7.3 - 2826.17) <962F9FB1-7E46-3F93-9BAF-E05E7CF8D36D> /System/Library/Frameworks/QTKit.framework/Versions/A/QTKit
0x99348000 - 0x99354ffc libbz2.1.0.dylib (29) <3CEF1E92-BA42-3F8A-8E8D-9E1F7658E5C7> /usr/lib/libbz2.1.0.dylib
0x99355000 - 0x99365ff5 com.apple.LangAnalysis (1.7.0 - 1.7.0) <71DE7754-0A47-3F35-B1BF-B1FE7E1311E0> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis
0x99d76000 - 0x99d78ffb libRadiance.dylib (1042.2) <3AE35DFA-AAF0-37C0-8544-1B19E9B5FCE1> /System/Library/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRadiance.d ylib
0x99d79000 - 0x99da1fff libsystem_info.dylib (449.1.3) <BB68E8CC-422F-3121-8C86-D0F766FB696D> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_info.dylib
0x99da2000 - 0x99e40ff7 com.apple.PDFKit (2.9.1 - 2.9.1) <37D112C0-3AF4-399F-B1E0-09162CBA3741> /System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PDFKit.framew ork/Versions/A/PDFKit
0x99e41000 - 0x99e54ff7 com.apple.CoreBluetooth (1.0 - 1) <A9362E6E-732A-39CA-B523-CB847C92A159> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOBluetooth.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreBlue tooth.framework/Versions/A/CoreBluetooth
0x99e55000 - 0x99f41ff7 libxml2.2.dylib (26) <32040145-6FD6-3AD2-B98B-39F73BF9AC47> /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
0x99f42000 - 0x99f97ff3 com.apple.ImageCaptureCore (5.0 - 5.0) <69A007AE-4654-3C79-9AF6-5EC8F173F225> /System/Library/Frameworks/ImageCaptureCore.framework/Versions/A/ImageCaptureCo re
0x99f98000 - 0x99fa1fff com.apple.AppleSRP (5.0 - 1) <6B946F4B-7DC4-3E82-BF2C-BE0930E3CF47> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleSRP.framework/Versions/A/AppleSRP
0x9a08e000 - 0x9a0c4fff com.apple.IconServices (25 - 25.17) <A4B5242B-765E-3D58-B066-BBEDB5947AAD> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IconServices.framework/Versions/A/IconService s
0x9a0c5000 - 0x9a13affb com.apple.framework.IOKit (2.0.1 - 907.90.2) <AFF50D8E-7D1D-38B9-A77E-DF0C0C4C97E0> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
0x9a13b000 - 0x9a183fff com.apple.PerformanceAnalysis (1.47 - 47) <EC8DB814-693E-354D-9571-A4B2F0350BDF> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PerformanceAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/Perf ormanceAnalysis
0x9a184000 - 0x9a196fff libsystem_asl.dylib (217.1.4) <51EB17C9-9F5B-39F3-B6CD-8EF238B05B89> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_asl.dylib
0x9a1d2000 - 0x9a4bcfd2 com.apple.vImage (7.0 - 7.0) <256972F0-3DBC-3CE1-9EE8-B48243868729> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vImage.fr amework/Versions/A/vImage
0x9a4bd000 - 0x9a4c7ff2 com.apple.AppSandbox (3.0 - 1) <FE0793BE-50CF-3E3B-82C9-71F7A294E10F> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppSandbox.framework/Versions/A/AppSandbox
0x9a4c8000 - 0x9a68effb libicucore.A.dylib (511.31) <9C25D145-E785-357B-9833-1980A1A738C9> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
0x9a68f000 - 0x9a698fff com.apple.audio.SoundManager (4.1 - 4.1) <68B7CEB7-AF09-3E24-8548-6ABF065B5186> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.f ramework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
0x9a6c6000 - 0x9a7acff7 com.apple.coreui (2.1 - 231) <1C1AE894-C5C2-3F1C-BF29-B152ECD9BD88> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/CoreUI
0x9aae2000 - 0x9ab40ffd com.apple.AE (665.5 - 665.5) <54F2F247-160C-3A22-A6E3-5D49655A67AB> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.fram ework/Versions/A/AE
0x9b302000 - 0x9b333ffb com.apple.GSS (4.0 - 2.0) <E935DA55-0DBE-3D5A-9DFB-FBBFDB457F33> /System/Library/Frameworks/GSS.framework/Versions/A/GSS
0x9b334000 - 0x9b369ffd libssl.0.9.8.dylib (50) <F3BEA2DF-DB84-37F0-B4C7-97C0A4DF19C9> /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib
0x9b373000 - 0x9bf91ff3 com.apple.AppKit (6.9 - 1265.19) <07125263-9E97-3A47-BBD3-6FB462910565> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
0x9bf92000 - 0x9bfd2ff7 com.apple.bom (14.0 - 193.1) <FFF1C8E5-41FF-357B-8681-69B21DCED2E4> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Bom.framework/Versions/A/Bom
0x9bfd3000 - 0x9bfd4fff com.apple.marco (10.0 - 1000) <F7AD1FF7-5B1E-3D3C-AF00-FA3A43118CE5> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Marco.framework/Versions/A/Marco
0x9bfd5000 - 0x9bfd6fff liblangid.dylib (117) <F18F76C6-7E4B-34AD-AE81-C1C031BF2F7D> /usr/lib/liblangid.dylib
0x9bfd7000 - 0x9bfdbffa libcache.dylib (62) <9730D7F2-D226-3F30-8D26-BF598CB781F6> /usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib
0x9bfdc000 - 0x9bfe6ff7 com.apple.speech.synthesis.framework (4.7.1 - 4.7.1) <C4CC55E5-6CC4-307E-9499-AF89A6463AF4> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis
0x9bfe7000 - 0x9c3acff6 libLAPACK.dylib (1094.5) <E6286E68-3501-31AC-813E-75B3B3968011> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.fr amework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
0x9c3ad000 - 0x9c3b9ffe libkxld.dylib (2422.92.1) <EDA98A27-A9F0-3487-A635-B7FE6AC1C8B6> /usr/lib/system/libkxld.dylib
External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 1350
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=260.2M resident=49.6M(19%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=210.6M(81%)
Writable regions: Total=50.9M written=2004K(4%) resident=2156K(4%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=48.8M(96%)
REGION TYPE
VIRTUAL
===========
=======
Kernel Alloc Once
4K
MALLOC
41.1M
MALLOC (admin)
48K
Stack
65.1M
VM_ALLOCATE
852K
__DATA
18.9M
__IMAGE
528K
__LINKEDIT
42.9M
__OBJC
4024K
__PAGEZERO
4K
__TEXT
217.3M
__UNICODE
544K
mapped file
49.0M
shared memory
4K
===========
=======
TOTAL
440.2M
Model: MacBookPro8,2, BootROM MBP81.0047.B27, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.69f4
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 512 MB
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6490M, AMD Radeon HD 6490M, PCIe, 256 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000000000000000000000000000000000
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x830B, 0x4D3253344736344342384844354E2D434720
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD6), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.22)
Bluetooth: Version 4.2.3f10 13477, 3 services, 15 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: TOSHIBA MK5065GSXF, 500.11 GB
Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898
USB Device: Hub
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
USB Device: Hub
USB Device: IR Receiver
Thunderbolt Bus: MacBook Pro, Apple Inc., 22.1
Skype Crashing Report:
Process:
Skype [1172]
Path:
/Applications/Skype.app/Contents/MacOS/Skype
Identifier:
com.skype.skype
Version:
6.14 (6.14.0.351)
Code Type:
X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [273]
Responsible:
Skype [1172]
User ID:
501
Date/Time:
2014-04-25 13:43:44.318 +0700
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: 2BE9F7D6-4419-441B-FC6D-1CA4EF1D7F7D
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: EXC_I386_GPFLT
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libicucore.A.dylib
0x9a600000 icu::TimeUnitAmount::getTimeUnit() const + 2
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d643 CFLocaleCreateComponentsFromLocaleIdentifier + 243
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d4e0 __CFLocaleCopyCodes + 80
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d34f CFLocaleGetValue + 671
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x92f2d0a8 -[__NSCFLocale objectForKey:] + 24
5 com.apple.Foundation
0x9662afba -[NSUserDefaults(NSUserDefaults) init] + 703
6 com.apple.Foundation
0x9662a552 +[NSUserDefaults(NSUserDefaults) standardUserDefaults] + 93
7 com.apple.AppKit
0x9b3760e3 +[NSApplication initialize] + 104
8 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28eb6 _class_initialize + 526
9 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a2ede1 lookUpImpOrForward + 109
10 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a28ca3 _class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache3 + 55
11 libobjc.A.dylib
0x97a284e1 objc_msgSend + 81
12 com.skype.skype
0x000030d5 0x1000 + 8405
Thread 1:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93170dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93174cce start_wqthread + 30
Thread 2:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c992 kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib
0x9883d8ad _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 238
2 libdispatch.dylib
0x9883d546 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x9889c046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93170dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x93174cce start_wqthread + 30
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xbffffa47 ebx: 0x00000101 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0xbffff946 esi: 0xbffff8dc ebp: 0xbffff898 esp: 0xbffff86c
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010a82 eip: 0x9a600000 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0xb0115000
Logical CPU:
0
Error Code:
0x00000000
Trap Number:
13
Binary Images:
0x1000 - 0x9b0fff +com.skype.skype (6.14 - 6.14.0.351) <75E1A291-9B8F-355F-AB9B-93E12F7136BB> /Applications/Skype.app/Contents/MacOS/Skype
0x1ba5000 - 0x1bbdff7 com.apple.ScriptingBridge (1.3.1 - 63) <6A12D8A2-A60D-3304-B3A8-DFE3901CC94A> /System/Library/Frameworks/ScriptingBridge.framework/Versions/A/ScriptingBridge
0x1da4000 - 0x1dd8ff7 +net.hockeyapp.sdk.mac (2.0 - 19) <7136E2CD-31A5-3027-BDA2-AC4069AD664F> /Applications/Skype.app/Contents/Frameworks/HockeySDK.framework/Versions/A/Hock eySDK
0x8fe62000 - 0x8fe94417 dyld (239.4) <2E655535-479B-3E48-ADD3-6278819CA38A> /usr/lib/dyld
0x90008000 - 0x90135ff9 com.apple.avfoundation (2.0 - 651.12) <5D46DA01-3CFB-375E-B134-8625EA3466A7> /System/Library/Frameworks/AVFoundation.framework/Versions/A/AVFoundation
0x90136000 - 0x90138fff com.apple.ExceptionHandling (1.5 - 10) <0434251E-AB8E-359A-9283-DA3B086E8AE9> /System/Library/Frameworks/ExceptionHandling.framework/Versions/A/ExceptionHand ling
0x90139000 - 0x90164ff7 libsystem_network.dylib (241.3) <71EBA489-386D-3608-ADE6-CB50EBD1AB1B> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_network.dylib
0x90165000 - 0x9018cfff com.apple.CoreVideo (1.8 - 117.2) <A53FDD90-F200-3F7C-8A8E-5DE36D3DFBB0> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CoreVideo
0x90191000 - 0x90196ff6 libcompiler_rt.dylib (35) <9924DF2E-D80B-3A21-920D-544A4597203F> /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib
0x90197000 - 0x901abff9 com.apple.MultitouchSupport.framework (245.13 - 245.13) <1576F96C-385B-3AAE-8A09-1D49091FE931> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MultitouchSupport.framework/Versions/A/Multit ouchSupport
0x901ac000 - 0x901c4ff7 libsystem_malloc.dylib (23.10.1) <CB52555E-0F5B-31E3-A42A-FD4F930E2192> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_malloc.dylib
0x901c5000 - 0x901defff libAVFAudio.dylib (32.2) <C4CBDFDF-8F77-3872-B7DE-D2D7982084BA> /System/Library/Frameworks/AVFoundation.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libAVFAu dio.dylib
0x901df000 - 0x901e0fff libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib (100) <B936B1D4-90BB-395D-8EA9-E1237608E7D0> /usr/lib/libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib
0x901e1000 - 0x901ecfff com.apple.CrashReporterSupport (10.9 - 538) <7ED18744-8296-3AB8-BBAA-77B0849CF88E> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CrashReporterSupport.framework/Versions/A/Cra shReporterSupport
0x901ed000 - 0x901f5fff liblaunch.dylib (842.90.1) <B259692D-D60B-3BCE-9E03-32F457CB5046> /usr/lib/system/liblaunch.dylib
0x901f6000 - 0x902c4ff7 com.apple.backup.framework (1.5.2 - 1.5.2) <BE2F37D3If you reset the user's password you should be able to log in again:
Start up in safe mode (you must hold the RIGHT Shift key during boot): http://support.apple.com/kb/ph11212
Reset the password for your user: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11390Choose Apple menu > System Preferences, click Users & Groups, click the lock to unlock it and provide an administrator name and password, select a user, and then click Reset Password.
If that didn't work, you may have to clear the AuthenticationAuthority directory service property belonging to your user: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20583726#20583726
If you follow those instructions you may see some error messages indicating that certain properties aren't found, you can ignore those errors. After logging in, you may have to login to your Apple ID in the App Store application which you can do by opening App Store -> Store menu option -> Sign In. -
I have photoshop cs, application keeps quitting, illustrator OK
I have photoshop cs, application keeps quitting, illustrator OK
You have posted to the Forum Comments forum, which is for discussing general issues with the fora, and not for product support.
If you are on Windows, THIS is the PS Forum to post to.
When you do, please give your full computer specs., and exactly what is happening, as that info will help others to help you.
Good luck,
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Hi
Wondered if anyone can help...
I have a 6 month old iMac 5,1.
Recently the safari application and mail application keep quitting without warning.
This isn't all the time but is becoming more frequent.
The system seems to be running slower some of the time as well.
I haven't added any major new software or peripherals but I have been downloading some movies lately... might this have something to do with it.
I have tech tool delux installed and have scanned (except surface scan as someone told me this doesn't need to be done..?) with all passing.
Any ideas?
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While editing photos,iP keeps quiting.WHY?
While editing photos,iP (iP "09 v.8.1.2) keeps quiting. WHY?
Process: iPhoto [153]
Path: /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/MacOS/iPhoto
Identifier: com.apple.iPhoto
Version: 8.1.2 (8.1.2)
Build Info: iPhotoProject-4240000~8
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [92]
Date/Time: 2011-10-16 12:03:28.191 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000025
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Application Specific Information:
objc_msgSend() selector name: respondsToSelector:
Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x99e2af87 objc_msgSend + 23
1 com.apple.iPhoto 0x003796fe 0x1000 + 3639038
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x9253646a -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 6014
3 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00229973 0x1000 + 2263411
4 com.apple.AppKit 0x9278121f -[NSApplication _realDoModalLoop:peek:] + 806
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x9277aeca -[NSApplication runModalSession:] + 79
6 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00208e29 0x1000 + 2129449
7 com.apple.iPhoto 0x000efa0e 0x1000 + 977422
8 com.apple.iPhoto 0x000f4b12 0x1000 + 998162
9 com.apple.iPhoto 0x0038cd21 0x1000 + 3718433
10 com.apple.iPhoto 0x0038ec05 0x1000 + 3726341
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x92546a26 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 112
12 com.apple.AppKit 0x92626255 -[NSControl sendAction:to:] + 108
13 com.apple.AppKit 0x92621d02 -[NSCell _sendActionFrom:] + 169
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x92620ff9 -[NSCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 1808
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x926766ed -[NSButtonCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:] + 524
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x9261fa4f -[NSControl mouseDown:] + 812
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x9261da58 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 5549
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x9253660b -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 6431
19 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00229973 0x1000 + 2263411
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x924ca253 -[NSApplication run] + 917
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x924c2289 NSApplicationMain + 574
22 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00124b80 0x1000 + 1194880
23 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00003172 0x1000 + 8562
Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90374382 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90374a9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90373f59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90373cfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90373781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x903735c6 start_wqthread + 30
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9034db5a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b6e1 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x903aa5a8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9747295c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 453
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9742b451 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 279
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9742b334 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.proxtcore 0x00f6c201 -[XTMsgQueue waitForMessage] + 49
7 com.apple.proxtcore 0x00f5a363 -[XTThread run:] + 387
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436564 -[NSThread main] + 45
9 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436514 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b259 _pthread_start + 345
11 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b0de thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9034db5a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b6e1 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x903aa5a8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9747295c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 453
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9742b451 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 279
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9742b334 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.proxtcore 0x00f6c201 -[XTMsgQueue waitForMessage] + 49
7 com.apple.proxtcore 0x00f5a363 -[XTThread run:] + 387
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436564 -[NSThread main] + 45
9 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436514 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b259 _pthread_start + 345
11 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b0de thread_start + 34
Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9034dafa mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9034e267 mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9969630f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x996953f4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x99695221 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x97470227 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 279
6 com.apple.proxtcore 0x00f5b8a5 -[XTRunLoopThread run:] + 421
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436564 -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436514 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b259 _pthread_start + 345
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b0de thread_start + 34
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b75e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037d3f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
3 com.apple.iPhoto 0x00506841 0x1000 + 5265473
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436564 -[NSThread main] + 45
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x97436514 __NSThread__main__ + 1499
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b259 _pthread_start + 345
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b0de thread_start + 34
Thread 6: WebCore: LocalStorage
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037baa2 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b75e _pthread_cond_wait + 1191
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037d3f8 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
3 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x96ef6901 ***::ThreadCondition::timedWait(***::Mutex&, double) + 81
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b259 _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9037b0de thread_start + 34 -
Applications keep quitting unexpectedly
Salut,
I have run into a problem with my all of application quitting unexpectedly upon launch or shortly thereafter. About 2 months ago I upgraded my internal HD to a Samsung 300GB Model. Had it swapped by the local Apple store. Ran flawlessly after replacing a cracked memory module. Then more and more this application crashes began to occur 2 weeks ago. First few and far between, then more repeatedly.
I ran DiskUtility and the repair Disk function returned an "underlying error, task could not be completed". So I ran diskwarrior and had the directory rebuilt and then checked again with diskutility and all went fine - it reported no errors, same for permissions. But when I log back in...same old, same old - crashes. Happens to both my accounts on my iMac incidentally...
When I go back to DiskUtility it tells me again - underlying error...
What to do? Is this more likely a hardware or software issue?
Thanks for the help!!Hi heiko,
theses article might help:
Disk Utility reports "Underlying task reported failure" when repairing a volume
Apple applications unexpectedly quit
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I am up against a major deadline and I can't get my computer to cooperate with me!
It started a few weeks ago when my mail kept quitting. Then it wouldn't start up and I had to archive and install twice. Now my InDesign keeps quitting. I have cleaned off a lot of pictures and misc. stuff I had on my computer. Everything has been running fine on the eMac for over a year since I got it and now it is all messing up on me!
I have ordered Tiger and I should get it this week, please tell me that will help!Have you tried the usual?
eg
1. repair disk permissions
2. repair disk (boot up from OSX cd and select disk utility, or use disk warrior or similar) -
Some of my applications keep quitting unexpectedly.
Random applications like Steam, Safari, or even games I've bought close unexpectedly at different times. Safari will close if I try to watch videos occasionally; Steam will close if I try to click on random games; and some games won't even launch, it will still say they "quit" unexpectedly. I'm not sure what to do?
Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.
Step 1
For this step, the title of the Console window should be All Messages. If it isn't, select
SYSTEM LOG QUERIES ▹ All Messages
from the log list on the left. If you don't see that list, select
View ▹ Show Log List
from the menu bar at the top of the screen.
In the top right corner of the Console window, there's a search box labeled Filter. Initially the words "String Matching" are shown in that box. Enter the name of the crashed application or process. For example, if Safari crashed, you would enter "Safari" (without the quotes.)
Each message in the log begins with the date and time when it was entered. Select the messages from the time of the last crash, if any. Copy them to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Paste into a reply to this message by pressing command-V.
The log contains a vast amount of information, almost all of which is irrelevant to solving any particular problem. When posting a log extract, be selective. A few dozen lines are almost always more than enough.
Please don't indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
Please don't post screenshots of log messages—post the text.
Some private information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting.
Step 2
In the Console window, select
DIAGNOSTIC AND USAGE INFORMATION ▹ User Diagnostic Reports
(not Diagnostic and Usage Messages) from the log list on the left. There is a disclosure triangle to the left of the list item. If the triangle is pointing to the right, click it so that it points down. You'll see a list of crash reports. The name of each report starts with the name of the process, and ends with ".crash". Select the most recent report related to the process in question. The contents of the report will appear on the right. Use copy and paste to post the entire contents—the text, not a screenshot.
I know the report is long, maybe several hundred lines. Please post all of it anyway.
If you don't see any reports listed, but you know there was a crash, you may have chosen Diagnostic and Usage Messages from the log list. Choose DIAGNOSTIC AND USAGE INFORMATION instead.
In the interest of privacy, I suggest that, before posting, you edit out the “Anonymous UUID,” a long string of letters, numbers, and dashes in the header of the report, if it’s present (it may not be.)
Please don’t post other kinds of diagnostic report—they're very long and rarely helpful. -
All my applications keep quitting unexpectedly.
It started with firefox and safari. now it's almost anything i'm using. i know my computer is sort of old but is there anything i can do to keep this from happening all the time?
Hi Sonia, and a warm welcome to the forums!
First important question... How much Free Space is on your Hard Drive?
It would also help us to know more about your Mac.
Go to the Apple icon at top left>About this Mac>More info...>Hardware & post like this...
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.21f4
DO NOT post the Serial# for safety!
Have you booted off the Install Disk by holding the *d key* down at boot-up, (not the c key), and run the extended Apple HW Test? Some Install disks require holding the Option key at bootup to select the AHT. Some Macs came with separate AHT CDs.
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Tiger Mac OS X Install disc , then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, *you must select your language first.)*
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
Then Safe Boot , (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it finishes.
Safe Boot... holding Shift key down at bootup. Safe Boot is a special way to start Mac OS X 10.2 or later when troubleshooting.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107392 -
MP Navigator EX 3.1.3 keeps quitting - why?, MP Navigator EX 3.1.3 keeps quitting - why?
I use a MacBook Pro Retina 17" running OS X (10.8.4)
I've been using MP Navigator EX 3.1.3 quite happily but now it has started to quit whenver I tried to save the scanned files.
Using ScanGear suffers the same issue.
Any advice?
Cheers,Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.
Step 1
Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select
View ▹ Show Log List
from the menu bar.
Enter the name of the crashed application or process in the Filter text field. Select the messages from the time of the last crash, if any. Copy them to the Clipboard (command-C). Paste into a reply to this message (command-V).
When posting a log extract, be selective. In most cases, a few dozen lines are more than enough.
Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
Important: Some private information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting.
Step 2
In the Console window, look under User Diagnostic Reports for crash reports related to the crashed process. The report name starts with the name of the process, and ends with ".crash". Select the most recent report and post the entire contents — again, the text, not a screenshot. In the interest of privacy, I suggest that, before posting, you edit out the “Anonymous UUID,” a long string of letters, numbers, and dashes in the header of the report, if it’s present (it may not be.) Please don’t post shutdownStall, spin, or hang logs — they're very long and not helpful. -
I am posting on behalf of my daughter. This is the information she has supplied. She has a four year old lap-top PowerPc G3. It has a memory of 128MB. Capacity 18.62 MB. Available memory 15.19 and has used 3.43 on the disk. The system she has installed is Mac OS X 10.1.2.
She is able to load applications onto her lap-top but as soon as she attempts to open any application it immediately quits.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I hope I am in the correct forum.
MikeThese are my model info - it should appear.
U think I need more memory?
Though I used to have 128 MB without any trouble.
The problem appeared very rescently
regards,
tom
iBook Powerpc G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) 933 Mhz 384 MB DDR SDRAM -
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Hi everyone, I have recently installed Snow Leopard on my 06 iMac, installed all the latest updates.
I then found that when I try to set up voice activation application: system preference–speech.
The application opens for a few seconds and then unexpectedly quit. As I'm studying I use Acrobat reader
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is mainly a 64-bit operating system. But I also find that the Read aloud option in the Acrobat reader does not work
and causes acrobats also unexpectedly quit.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on?
Thank you
SmileyD64kjo04 wrote:
After installing snow leopard 10.6.8 my mail application will not open. It says you can not use this version of the application Mail with this OS X. You have Mail 3.6. What do I do? I thought everything would just automatically update... am I doing something wrong?
I suggest visiting the following Apple Support Communities Thread, your problem is similar to the one described there...
Re: Just installed snow leopard but i can't use mail b/c 3.6 version -
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I'm kind of at my wit's end here. Please help!I'm having the same exact problem! Did you ever find out what was causing it??
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