Apportionment of semi variable cost
Dear SAP Gurus,
We define the cost components in the cost component structure (OKTZ) with attributes as variable or fixed and variable costs.
Suppose if we define one component with attribute as fixed and variable - where do we maintain the settings as to how much is fixed and how much portion goes to variable - Please clarify.
Please provide example as to how KP06 and KP26 differentiates fixed and variable costs and how it is displayed in the output of CK13N.
Please explain.
Regards
Rajya Lakshmi
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
My client requirement is to show the costs under variable costs. For which I have defined the cost component as variable and planned them in KP06 and KP26.
Still while performing KSS2 and KSSI system is showing values under control costs fixed.
I need the solution as to what shall I do to show them under the variable control costs alone.
Please Help ASAP.
Regards
Rajya Lakshmi
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