Approvals (Process Management) question

Hi everybody,
In approvals (Bottom Up mode) we have an ability to set promotional path for Entity like Owner->Reviewer1->Reviewer2->etc.
As I understand Owner can edit data for the Entity and Reviewers can't.
Is it possible to give Reviewers ability to change data and to keep the promotional path like it was described?
Thank you.

Reviewer will not be able to write data to the intersection.
Reviewers can only review the data and follow-up with a Reject, Promote, Sign off, Delegate, Originate or Freeze.
Refer: Hyperion Planning Process Management Features explained By Example (Doc ID 1226783.1) in My Oracle Support.
HTH-
Jasmine.

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Guys,
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545515 wrote:
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