Aquamark 03

I tried aquamark and scored 43. 332 . is that a decent score?

sounds pretty good. i got around 42,000 with my 9800pro at stock speeds and ati catalyst 10.0. im up to 52,000 now with a new heatsink(vga silencer) which allowed me to overclock to 450/375 and using omega drivers. I just got some ramsinks in today which i hope will let me push the ram speed a little more.

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Low aquamark CPU scores :(

I have a 3200+ newcastle(stock) and neo platinum. my aquamark cpu score seems low at 7019. is this abnormal and if so, any ideas on what could be causing it? btw, my 3dmark01 score is 16,900...is that low too?

OK this is how it supose to be, just ran AM3 again after i gave my AGp some juice here is the new result:
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1152541865
AquaMark Score: 47921
AquaMark CPU Score: 9904
AquaMark GFX Score: 6321
Average FramesPS: 47.921
Average TrianglesPS: 14425 K
Im aiming to 50k, but need to break the wall first on my fsb coz neo freezes up on 216 x 11 fsb 1:1.
ill loosen the timings next time mayb i get better luck then.
Oh yeh is this the latest cpu driver( AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP, Version (exe) 1.1.0.14 )?????/
Got it from AMD.com

Low 3dmark 03 / Aquamark score

For some reason im getting low scores for these 2 programs, im not sure why.
Anyone have any ideas?
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2729106
my CPU score seems extremely slow.
Ive also tried installing the intel chipset drivers (latest ones) but still no luck...
Same with aquamark:
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1621912558
only 8,000 for the CPU test... many of them have 9,000-10,000 at 3.25GHz

the other card was a 5900XT with 56.72 drivers.
ok ill give it a go with the 3 tests and see what the outcome is...
here are the results from the 5900XT (as i can only publish 1 result with 03)
Main Test Results
3DMark Score   5439 3DMarks
CPU Score   631.0 CPUMarks
Detailed Test Results
Game Tests
GT1 - Wings of Fury   174.0 fps
GT2 - Battle of Proxycon   39.3 fps
GT3 - Troll's Lair   31.6 fps
GT4 - Mother Nature   31.7 fps
CPU Tests
CPU Test 1   65.4 fps
CPU Test 2   12.0 fps
this was done at 2.6GHz, no overclocking
the 9800 pro has:
3DMark Score   5914 3DMarks
CPU Score   559.0 CPUMarks
Detailed Test Results
Game Tests
GT1 - Wings of Fury   198.4 fps
GT2 - Battle of Proxycon   37.6 fps
GT3 - Troll's Lair   33.9 fps
GT4 - Mother Nature   38.2 fps
CPU Tests
CPU Test 1   62.0 fps
CPU Test 2   10.0 fps
this was done at 3.25GHz, FSB on 250MHz, RAM on 333. 250 fsb made it to 400.
note the huge difference? almost 100 marks.

AquaMark 3 scores

Just installed and results,
system slight O/C 169fsb
1280x1024X32 @ 85hRZ (desktop)
bench auto setting
1024x768x32
AA off
Aniso 4X
Details VHigh
169fsb 175fsb
GFX 5,430 5,463
CPU 6,705 6,839
38,657 38,934
Ref: 3DMark2001SE @ 175fsb 16719
O/C 10.5
200 fsb 205fsb
GFX 5,427 5,451
CPU 7,069 7,249
39,212 39,528
Ref: 3DMark2001SE @ 205 17213

37,828 with new ultra FX 5900
34,821 with the none ultra

Bios 1.1 & Bios 1.2 (1.3b1) - Aquamark 03

Default VGA clock (400MHz) MSI FX5900SP K8N bios 1.1
Default VGA clock (400MHz) MSI FX5900SP K8N bios 1.2 or 1.3b1

I don't understand the editing in the first post....
There was a speed drop with the new bioses in the original post...
Did you switch that on purpose (meaning you don't have any problems??)
Or you made a mistake in the new speeds???

6800 GT AGP aquamark 3 scores 1024x768 4xAF VERY HIGH

Do you find a 8000 graphics score low with 6800 gt AGP?

Quote from: tstathop2003 on 05-May-05, 01:46:59
Do you find a 8000 graphics score low with 6800 gt AGP?
It depends on the Drivers, CPU, RAM ,PSU, Motherboard and general settings of the computer. A lot of factors will come into play as to why the score is so low. It should at least be over 10k, unless it's running in a 3 year old XP or P4 rig, then 8k would be OK.... For what it's worth, I can squeeze 10.5k out of my 6800nu, but that is OCing it to hell and back. The link to my score is in my sig.

ONE LAST HURRAH: Before saying Goodbye to my Beloved MSI Eclipse!!!

I already posted this article in the motherboard thread but seems like this is the best place to post this
ONE LAST HURRAH: Before saying Goodbye to my Beloved MSI Eclipse!!!
Well it has been two months since I purchased this MSI Eclipse SLI board and while waiting for its bigger brother MSI Eclipse Plus, I would like to try out a new board from another manufacturer. Before I pass this board to its new owner, I decided to give it a little review to so that other people who will be upgrading to i7 platform will have some idea how good or how bad this board is.
A few months ago and maybe until now, Eclipse is the flagship board of MSI in terms of i7 based motherboard. Its bigger brother MSI Eclipse Plus has already been sighted in some forums but no definite date yet on when it will be available in the market.
The Box
The size of the box was way bigger than my old P45 motherboards. It is actually almost 2x the size of the conventional ATX board box.
Upon opening the panel on the box, you will see a lot of information about the board! You will also see the added stuff from MSI like the Green Power Genie as well as the awesome Creative Xfi! Yes, a creative Xfi Extreme Audio PCIe sound card was included on the package.
Upon opening the box, you will see a plastic container (I am assuming that this is anti-static) that contains the motherboard, DLED2, Green Power Genie and creative X-fi.
There’s another box that contains a lot of stuff! MSI is as usual generous in giving their customers all the things the need to fully populate the board. This includes the cables needed to populate all the sata and ide slots, cross fire and SLI cable, additional USB bracket, ESATA bracket and the M connectors. All the manuals needed to setup the boards are also included.
The Board and Layout:
The board for me is pretty sexy! It comes with a black PCB. The RAM slots and the other expansion slots are only blue and black in color which is a perfect combination for an intel based platform. The IOH and the ICH10R is actually covered by a copper heatsink with heatpipes connecting them. Well, personally I do not like this design since I do know that x58 generates a lot of heat. The VRMs also come with a copper heatsink but no heatpipe . As far as I understand from the box information, this is MSI’s split thermal design as well as protection from warping.
MSI also provided 6 RAM slots and they come in blue and black sockets. Do yourself a favor by putting the ram in the black slots. I previously ran into problems of the system hanging in “ DDR ini “ and later found out from reading the manual and searching the web that the black slots should be populated first.
The board came with 10 sata ports! 6 of them in 90 degrees are connected to the ICH10 and the 4 are actually by the jmicron chips attached to the board and also function as
HW raid. Connect 2 HDD on sata 7 and 8 or sata 9 and 10, do some stuff in the BIOS and you are all set to run the system in raid 1 (mirror) or 0 (stripe). I have had no chance to test the raid 0 + 1 since I don’t have 4 identical drives. It also comes with an IDE slot for your old parallel IDE HDD and/or ODD.
The expansion slots come with 3 pci x16 slots, 2 pci and 2 pcie x1 which I believe is more than enough to suffice your daily needs. The bottom part of the board came with a power, reset and dled switch along with MSI’s OC jumper.
The back panel is not that good looking. Well it’s the same back panel style of their P45 series board. It doesn’t matter anyway since it is at the back of the chassis and what concerns me the most is functionality. The board came with 8 usb ports at the back, 2 Gigabit lan, 2 esata ports, a 1394 connector, a cmos reset switch and the conventional PS/2 ports for mouse and keyboard.
Bios and overclocking
I just captured the most important portion on the bios which is the Cell Menu. It is the overclocking tab on MSI’s BIOS
Overclocking and Benchmarking Results
Since I have not installed anything yet on my new board, I decided just to compare the stock and overclock result from this board.
Below are the lists of components that I will be using
Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz ( cooled by Thermalright HR 01 plus )
MSI Eclipse SLI – Beta BIOS 1.45
MSI 8800gtx (well a bit old but still reliable)
Team Extreme ddr3 1600 @ 8-8-8-25 rated 1.65V
Western digital Raptor 74gb 16MB cache
I tried setting up this board one last time on my DIY open system using the components above. And Good thing that my ever energetic and reliable assistant is always there to help … hahahaha
SPI Stock and 4Ghz OC Results
Stock = 15.313s
4Ghz = 10.405s
PC Mark 05 Stock and 4 Ghz OC Result
Stock = 9745
4Ghz = 13136
3DMark 05 Stock and 4Ghz OC results
Stock = 13388
4Ghz = 14289
3DMark vantage Stock and 4Ghz OC Results
Stock = 8160 ( 33530 on CPU score )
4Ghz = 8315 ( 43567 CPU score )
Aquamark Stock and Overclock
Stock = 131812 ( 18685 CPU score )
4Ghz = 179261 ( 23139 CPU score )
I tried playing with bclock since I have seen people in several forum saying that their boards( not specific to MSi eclipse ) / i7 proc cannot go above 200 or maybe just above 200 bclock. After doing some tweak I was able to get 215 bclock and the max I was able to get is 218, All the test that had been done are just after vista installation. No tweaks done on windows.
SPI = 10.343 ( 19 x 215 )
SPI = 10.030s ( 19 x 218 )
Wrap-up / Conclusion
I really don’t want to let this board go but I don’t have extra budget to buy and try new boards from other manufacturer so that I can compare the result. So right now I am stuck with selling this just to buy another x58 board (of which I will try to post a mini review soon)
I did encounter IOH temperature issue when I first bought this motherboard. IOH temperature is at 65C and this still goes up while running benchmarking tests. I made minor modifications on the board and as far as I know, it did not void the warranty. Below are the modifications that I have made:
1.   Removed the violet thermal paste that MSI used and replaced it with Artic Silver 5.
2.   Removed the plastic pushpin and replaced it with a bolt and plastic nut.
3.   Added a 40mmfan that is just enough to take out the heat from the IOH
Guess what, the temperature after these is just below 55C even under benchmarking (done during night time and I would expect that this will go to probably 60 degrees during daytime given the tropical climate in the Philippines).
I was able to overclock my i920 at 3.6ghz without even adjusting anything on the voltages. Meaning they are at stock settings! I managed to reach 4.0 ghz by simply adding 0.040v (around 1.29 Vcore only)
Pros
-   Easy to overclock board
-   Supports both SLI and crossfire
-   No issue on bigger after market cooling
-   90 degrees placement of ICH10’s sata port
-   Server grade VRM’s and Capacitors used
-   Creative Xfi included
Cons
-   Only one SLI bridge included. It would have been better if a tri SLI connector was given by MSi.
-   IOH temp an issue for my board. Need to monitor and maybe try my modifications.
-   Power/Reset/DLED Switches location will not be accessible if a 3rd video card is installed.
Other thoughts
-   It would have been better if the BIOS of the eclipse comes with nominal values on the Cell Menu. This is to serve as guide for the users if they are trying to alter the voltages.
-   Maybe swap the ide and the sata 7 to 10 ports? It is better looking if all 10 sata ports are on 90 degrees. It will also ensure that even if you use 2 or 3 video cards, it will not hit any of the sata 7-10 cables if you use them.

I can see you got your use out of it. I hope the new owner tortures it, too!

Performance and bios problems with K8T

Hi, I recently installed a new graphics card (6800 LE) but when I went to benchmark it the scores were way down, 6377 in 3dmark 03 and 28,421 in Aquamark, and that was after I had installed the latest bios and mobo drivers from MSI, unlocked the cards pipelines to 16 and shaders to 6, installed the latest XG Nvidia drivers (80.40 ) and checked about everything else I could think of.
I looked at RivaTuner and in the Northbridge info it said AGP status - disabled and in the Display Adaptor info, AGP status - disabled. In the bios the setting for AGP is greyed out ( or blued out ) so I am unable to set it to 8X or even check what it is set for.
Just to add the icing on the cake I now find that I can't get into bios with my existing keyboard as it's a USB model. I refitted my old ps2 keyboard and got into bios where I enabled the setting for legacy devices but there was no setting for usb 1.1 port 64/60 Emulation as listed in the manua.
Any assistance on any of these problems would be gratefully received. Tal

I reloaded the 4 in 1 drivers and the XG 80.40 graphics drivers and my bechmarks soared. Thank a lot Tiresmoke.

Overclocking Guide

Overclocking Guide
Disclaimer: Overclock at your own risk!
Data and information provided in this guide are for informational and educational purposes only, and are not intended for trading purposes. Neither MSI nor any of this thread’s authors shall be liable for any errors or delays in the content or be held responsible for any damage caused by modifying or overclocking your computer. Manufacturers may or may not honor the warranty on any overclocked or modified computer components. Perform any modifications to your systems at your own risk.
Why Overclock?
Today, overclocking is not any secret. It has become more popular and almost become an addiction to some people. The definition of Overclocking is simple: it means operating an Integrated Circuit beyond its specified clock speed.
But why overclock? Some people say to get more out for the same money. “It’s there; why not get more out of it?” However, the best business reason for overclocking is that it can make “out of date” equipments useful again. If the equipment is already out of warranty, the risk is very limited. (I personally suggest any beginners to overclock any out of date PC first just to have some first time experience.)
Know more about the Central Processing Unit (CPU)
Processor speed is based on two factors. The first is the interface between the motherboard and the front side bus (FSB). From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), FSB is the speed at which the CPU communicates with RAM (memory). Many system components - including the PCI and AGP buses usually run at speeds derived from the frontside bus' speed. In general, a faster frontside bus means higher processing speeds and a faster computer. The other factor controlling a CPU's speed is the clock multiplier. It defines the ratio of processor speed to the FSB.
The FSB on new processors ranges from 400 MHz to 800 MHz. These are not straight clock speeds but instead they are quad-clocked speeds. These processors actually transmit data four times per clock cycle, for example, 800 MHz FSB is actually four times the 200MHz clock (200 MHz x 4 = 800 MHz).
The core speed of the CPU is the product of the front side bus clock and the multiplier. A processor running at 3600MHz (i.e. 3.6 GHz) might be having 800 MHz FSB, this means there is a clock multiplier setting of 4, and thus the CPU is set to run at 4 times the MHz speed of the front side bus.
But we said earlier that they are quad-clocked speeds, so 3600 MHz actually came from 18 times 200 MHz (200 MHz x 18 = 3600 MHz).
Please note that not all processors have quad-clocked speed FSB. For example, the Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood core) has quad-clocked speed FSB. But for example, the Intel Pentium III, AMD Athlon XP and AMD Duron have dual-clocked speed FSB only.
To know more, please read:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2178
Let’s lock the clock multiplier
Few years ago, you could overclock processors by choosing a higher multiplier. This option was eliminated in order to fight CPU remarking. Counterfeit processors have regularly appeared in the market, as the CPU speed was only defined by your setting. Nowadays, the restriction to only one multiplier is both of overclocking and counterfeit prevention.
As you can see, the only way of overclocking today is choosing a higher front side bus clock and the offer of small increments e.g. 1MHz in today's motherboards give us a great advantage in overclocking.
However, some CPUs nowadays are still unlocked, for example, the AMD Athlon MP and AMD Athlon64 families. And some motherboard companies offer the chance to unlock the Pentium 4 (Socket 775 CPUs only) overclocking potential by using special bios, for more please read:
http://www20.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040916/index.html
Look at your motherboard
Before you overclock anything, have a look if your motherboard can overclock CPU. Look at the CPU installation section in the motherboard manual. Normally you will find either BIOS setup options or jumpers on the motherboard that allow you to adjust the FSB, CPU voltage, PCI/AGP ratio etc.
If you have a computer that came from a major manufacturer like HP, it is likely that your motherboard does not provide any overclocking function although it is very rare nowadays.
You need more Power!
This is also the time to check the power supply in your computer. Like a car, speed requires power, and unstable power inevitably leads to unstable processors, so I would recommend the power supply has to be at least 350 Watts. You can find six power supply guides in this forum below:
A Power Supply Guide
AND
Powersupplies(Written by Bas)
AND
Choosing The Right Power Supply
AND
Powersupply calculation....
AND
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles/guides/Power_Supply_Guide_1.html
Both Intel and AMD processors are power hungry, consuming 40 to 100 watts (e.g. the new Prescott) of power. Also, your graphics card may take another 55 watts of power. Now you are consuming more than 100 watts of power for merely two components in your system.
You can also voltmod your Power Supply Unit, for more please read:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/psu-voltmodding.html
Using higher voltages
Today, almost each processor can be run faster than the speed it was labeled for. This applies even more if you raise the core voltage a little bit. This is just like a car running at higher speed requires more power. But this is one of the “riskiest” aspects of overclocking - by using too much power you could burn your CPU. You should always raise the voltage step by step and never go higher than 15% beyond the specification. This way it is quite easy to get a faster system without risking the processor. Apart from raising the voltage of the CPU, similarly you can raise the voltage of memory as well. One problem is of course the increasing chip temperature, so cooling is very important. We will cover that later.
Memory Speed
Memory speed is often tied to the FSB. For example, a Double Data Rate (DDR) 400 memory has frequency 200MHz and the module rating is PC3200. Half the performance increase you may see from overclocking a CPU comes from increasing the speed at which the processor can talk to the memory.
When you buy memory, you may see it has label 2-3-3-7-1T. And you may also hear people saying my memory is a 2-3-3-7 one. But what does it mean? The answer is:
CAS Latency = 2 clock cycles
tRCD = RAS to CAS delay = 3 clock cycles
tRP = RAS Precharge = 3 clock cycles
tRAS = Active to Precharge = 7 clock cycles
Command Rate = 1 clock cycle
Different motherboards may call the above differently and not all of them will appear in the BIOS. You may need to check with your motherboard’s support team and the motherboard manual. If you have any option above in your BIOS, you can also start to adjust them. Obviously, the smaller the number the faster the memory will be.
To know more about memory please read:
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/tech/memory_basics/153707/index.html
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Memory Roundup
AND
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2223
Video Card
To overclock video card, we need a third party utility to overclock the card. Although increasing numbers of manufacturers include utilities to allow customers to overclock their cards in their drivers or through an extra application, most of them do not provide this facility. Simply because overclocking stresses the system and voids manufacturer warranties. Third party utilities tend to be universal that they work on different cards irrespective of manufacturers.
Some utilities and the places to download included:
1. OMEGA Drivers
http://www.omegacorner.com/
2. StarStorm Drivers (Nvidia cards only)
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10
3. RivaTuner
http://www.guru3d.com/
4. PowerStrip
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/
5. Rage3D Tweak (ATI cards only)
http://www.rage3d.com/index.php?node=r3dtweak
6. RadLinker (ATI cards only)
http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/
7. ATITool (ATI cards only)
http://atitool.ocfaq.com/
Please read their own manuals in their corresponding web pages. Also, if you want to be able to have the hidden functions in Nvidia card, create a file with notepad and put this in it (thanks for Deathstalker to provide this source):
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"Coolbits"=dword:ffffffff
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage"=dword:00000001
Save it as agpsetting.reg to your desktop or anywhere you like. Then run it and it will give you all the hidden options from Nvidia which include extra resolution settings for your desktop and overclocking for both the memory and core.
For ATI Radeon X800 Pro softmod, please read (link provided by mopey):
http://www.ocforums.com/showindex.php?t=312063
For ATI Radeon X800 Pro voltage mod, please read (link provided by NovJoe):
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=817&s=1
For ATI Radeon 9800 XT voltage mod, please read (link provided by NovJoe):
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=760&s=1
To can change your Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB graphic card to Radeon 9800XT card, please read (in English):
http://www.rojakpot.com/(jiljtv55hwgq5uabzft0f5re)/default.aspx?location=3&var1=92&var2=0
To change your GeForceFX 5900 graphic card to GeForceFX 5900 Ultra, please read (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0403/readocarticle.asp?id=2410
To change your GeForceFX 5700 Ultra graphic card to QuadroFX 1100, please read (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0403/readiyarticle.asp?id=2387
Get the temperature down
Cooling is probably the most important aspect of overclocking. Overclocking causes circuits to cycle faster, generating more heat. If the CPU is not cooled properly, your CPU will not run reliably and there is a very good chance that you will permanently damage your CPU.
The heat sink and fan unit that Intel and AMD ship with its CPU are fairy good. However, for maximum stability, we need to get something better than that. For example, for CPU fans, we have Vantec Tornado, Thermaltake volcano 7+, CoolerMaster Aero 4 and Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu etc.
Be sure that the cooling solution you choose is specifically designed for your processor. Improperly mounting a heat sink, using the wrong model can damage your processor.
Also, the airflow in the case is very important. If heat cannot escape the case, the CPU is still at risk. Thus, more case fans are needed apart from the power supply's exhaust fan. Tidying up the cables inside the case can help too. In addition, clearing the dust in the case by using canned compressed air can enhance the airflow but never use vacuum cleaner as it may generate electrostatic and harm the IC components.
For more about cooling, you can also read these:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle3.html
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http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle2.html
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Cooling guide(Written by J*A*G)
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http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_cooling
For more about CPU fan, please read:
BEST Overclockers CPU cooler????
For more about Water Cooling, please read:
Water cooling...
Keep the Noise Down
Unless your computer is cooled by a water cooling system, it will be pretty noisy. To keep the noise down, please read this:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle_quiet_computing.html
Overclocking Process
Essentially, overclocking processors consists of increasing the FSB in the BIOS, booting the computer, and then testing for stability. You repeat the process until you identify the maximum stable speed.
In case your board offer 1 MHz-increments (which most of your boards do), you have the chance to find out the maximum clock speed by slowly closing in on the final limit MHz for MHz. Of course this cannot be done in an hour, but you will have to spend one or two days just playing with different clock speed settings. In the end you should have your CPU running at the highest possible core speed. The Most important thing to remember is that you must go Slowly!
Also, you can overclock the processor by using software although it may not be as effective as overclocking using the motherboard BIOS. Such software includes:
1. ClockGen
http://www.cpuid.com/
2. CPUFSB
http://mitglied.lycos.de/podien/
3. 8rdavcore
http://www.hasw.net/8rdavcore/
Here is a thread that talks about overclocking an Intel Pentium 4 2.4cGHz to 3.0GHz using Intel 865PE chipsets. (You may treat it as an example of overclocking.):
Best 865PE Overclock for 2.4C to 3.0+
Changing the FSB is a relatively simple matter of entering the computer's BIOS setup screen, switching from automatic to manual configuration and selecting the FSB speed you want. Here are some utilities that you can check your computer’s setting, especially CPU speed:
1. CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com
2. WCPUID (Linux supported)
http://www.h-oda.com
3. AIDA32
http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php
http://aumha.org/freeware.htm
4. PC Wizard
http://www.cpuid.com/
5. EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/
6. Motherboard Monitor
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
7. HWiNFO and HWiNFO32
http://www.hwinfo.com/
8. SpeedFan
http://www.almico.com/
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
9. Motherboard Monitor
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/download.html
10. Intel Processor Frequency ID Utility (Intel CPU only)
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/tools/frequencyid/
11. AMD CPU Information Display Utility (AMD CPU only)
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871,00.html
For more, you can go to the following to have a browse:
http://www.3degs.net/
Bear in mind that if the processor is capable of a 20-percent or more speed increase say, it is unlikely that your video card or memory can have the same amount of increase. And the one thing that you must remember to do if you overclock the FSB is to Set (i.e. Lock) your AGP/PCI Buses, to as close to their Default Frequencies as Possible (to PCI bus at 33 MHz and the AGP port at 66 MHz for example), or you will most definitely experience problems across the whole board e.g. your graphics card, onboard sound and IDE channels may start giving you data and other errors.
Test for Stability and Benchmarking
The purpose of testing is to apply a heavy workload to every aspect of your system to ensure that there are no hidden problems and stability issue. You can do testing by using special testing suites, software and games. The aim of benchmarking is to measure the performance of your system. In overclocking, benchmarking can tell you how far the system’s performance has increased when you adjust certain settings.
For a test suite, you may try Winbench, which you can download from:
http://www.etestinglabs.com/benchmarks/winbench/winbench.asp
Special software for testing and benchmarking included:
1. CPU Burn (Linux supported)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/
2. PCMark 04
http://www.futuremark.com/
3. Aquamark 3
http://www.aquamark3.com/
4. SiSoftware Sandra Standard 2004
http://www.sisoftware.net/
5. Prime95 (Linux supported)
http://www.mersenne.org/
(For more about Prime95, please read: how to use prime 95 properly)
6. Memtest86 (Linux supported)
http://www.memtest86.com/
7. Memtest86+ (Linux supported)
http://www.memtest.org/
8. Super PI (Linux supported)
http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/Pi/Super_Pi.html (Windows version)
http://ftp://pi.super-computing.org/Linux/super_pi.tar.gz (Linux version)
9. ScienceMark
http://www.sciencemark.org/
10. SETI @home (Linux supported)
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
For testing video card, you can run Games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament demo mode and left running in loops. You should be able to run a game in a loop for at least two hours after a reboot without a problem. Also, you can use 3DMark05 from FUTUREMARK (download from http://www.futuremark.com/).
1. Unreal Tournament (Linux supported)
http://www.unrealtournament.com/
2. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (Linux supported)
http://games.activision.com/games/wolfenstein/
3. Quake (Linux supported)
http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/
4. Call Of Duty
http://www.callofduty.com/index.asp
5. X2 - The Thread
http://www.egosoft.com/
6. Colin McRae Rally 4
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/colinmcraerally04/uk/colinmcraerally04.php
7. Nascar Thunder 2004
http://www.easports.com/games/thunder2004/home.jsp
8. Halo
http://www.microsoft.com/games/halo/
9. Farcry
http://www.farcry.ubi.com/
10. Half-Life
http://games.sierra.com/games/half-life/
11. Doom 3 (Linux supported)
http://www.doom3.com/
Tips: The benchmark can be performed by using “demo1” which ships with Doom 3. Open the console (Windows: Ctrl+Alt+~; Linux: ~) and type “timedemo demo1”.
12. Battlefield Vietnam
http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/vietnam/us/home.jsp
13. Serious Sam
http://www.serioussam.com/
14. Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness
http://www.tombraider.com/
15. Halo
http://www.bungie.net/
16. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
http://www.splintercell.com/
Conclusion
I suggest you to read this guide one more time before you overclock to make sure that you have not missed anything. Wish you have a good overclocking experience, have fun! Here is also another guide to make your have a Happier and Healthier System:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle4.html
The following teaches you how to change an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ to an Athlon MP 1700+ (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0304/readocarticle.asp?id=1390
Also, for a Step By Step Overclocking Guide and other overclocking guides, you can go to:
1. General overclocking tips
2. more overclocking help
3. Hardware & Overclocking FAQ in bit-tech
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showindex.php?t=51323
4. Overclocking Guide in OC Forums
http://www.ocforums.com/showindex.php?t=263753
5. Link Guide for anyone new to Overclocking in PC Perspective
http://forums.pcper.com/showindex.php?t=173635
6. Overclocking Guide in Help Overclocking
http://www.helpoverclocking.com/english/index.htm
7. AMD Optimal BIOS settings + Overclocking Guide
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&howtoID=43
8. Tom's Hardware CPU Overclocking Forum (contains a few overclocking guides)
http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_cpu (for CPU)
9. Tom's Hardware Graphic Cards Overclocking Forum (contains a few overclocking guides)
http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_graphics (for Graphic Cards)
For a guide on Modding Tools, please read:
Modding Tools
Please post any comment and/or suggestion as well as dead link of this guide (Version 1.49) at the following thread:
Overclocking Guide Suggestion/Comment
I would like to thank for the help and support from Bas and Wonkanoby as well as advice from Raven_, Slimbooyphat and The Fellow in setting up this guide.

Quote from: ferohh on 01-March-05, 04:39:20
I tried to overclock my p4. 2,66ghz to 3.18ghz.
l increased the cpu fsb only since the multiplier is fixed at 20x.
l tried to change it but couldn´t.
l then increased my cpu voltage from 1.525v to 1.732v.
At 3.2ghz, the computer was on and restarts automatically, so l turned it to 3.18ghz.
does it mean the cpu will not overclock further or l need a new cooler?
I did not overclock anything except the fsb.
any help?
I have a 2.6C Northwood pentium 4 on an MSI 875P Neo2-FISR mobo. On air I'm able to get it to about 3.14Ghz stable. I don't believe it's a good idea to go past 1.6 for the voltage, from what I've read, voltage doesn't help too much with the northwoods.
I can overclock mine higher without any significant changes in temperatures, but the overclocks aren't stable and the system freezes up from time to time. I'm using Kingston HyperX PC4000 DDR, which can run at up to 500mhz, so I can do a 1:1 ratio on the overclock. I'm using a modular 500-watt power supply, Arctic Silver 5 and a huge honking Swiftech heatsink with an 80mm fan.

Problems With my nx7900gt...HELP!! (SOLVED)

I got like a week ago an msi nx7900gt it isntalled fine, and the first game a trew at her looked amazin (TES Ovlibion)... how ever after that I installed all my favorites benchmarks 3Dmark03,05,06 and aquamark3... All of them rab just fine, but aftehr the end of this test on 3dmark06 (deep Freeze). the screen froze, I managed to get to the desktop but the the monitor woul toun off an on every couple of seconds.... I had to manual reset the card.. and form the on things got worse... Now only aquamark runs on my system, Im getting artifacts on Tomb rider legends, ( however Ovlibion and hitman: Blood Money Woked just fine...) and I can even get F.E.A.R to run.... and any time I have a graphic glitch threre goes the monitor, On off on off..... I tried using nvidial latest oficial drives, and even the ones that are in msi pages (It was worse with those....) And I must say Its almos impossible for me to return the card The store I got it from Imports forms the states every copule on moths and the say something about me having to pay to ship it back..( im In Venezuela.) And the cost was like 150$!!! the is no temp porblems on the core it idles at 40c and goes up to 47 on load... is not over clocked (neither is my CPU)...
Here are My specs...
CPU AMD 64 X2 4200
MoBo: Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe.
Video: MSI NX7900gt.
Memory: SmartVision 1Gb (512 x2).
HDD: WD caviar 250 SATA.
PSU Thermaltake Purepower 600 wts..
runnig on winxp sp2.
Peripheral: logitech g15( keyboard.)
Logitech g5 (mice).

Thanks god for the flu!!!
I got Sick yestreday so I skipped work today...and this time I took My time to work out the errors I was getting from My video card. I first Un-Installed The thermaltake PurePower, and installed the MSI Turbo Stream...
I only Plugged in The MoBo molex one Of the SATA HDD and The PCIe plug.( the one form the psu). turned on Mi pc and it was fine, so I started aquamark3... It ran fine, 3dmark03, 3dmark05 FIne! it was time for the dreaded 3dmark06... IT pass the deep freeze test.... so I went for one last test... re installed FEAR, and yes It ran perfectly....tested all the other games I had installed ( Sin episodes, Tomb Rider Legends, Ovlibion NFS, Most wanted...) and all ran fine!!!! Althoug In tomb rider I had to disable nex gen graphics... It kind of lagged with that on...
So it was a power Issue... dam My brand new 240$ psu did not worked were a 32$ did....
but then I start to think It had to do with the way I had connected the components on the thermaltake psu so re installed the TT did some changes on the connections!!!! IT did it, I even installed al 3 case fans plus the other SATA HDD, And it was all ok....
Thanks a lot to $SOLID$ Necro form pcapex.com for all the help..
Hope this help other 7900 owners....

Decreased performance with CoreCenter 1.6.2.0

I just recently upgraded CoreCenter from 1.6.0.0 to 1.6.2.0. I had no problems with the original, but decided it was time to upgrade. I noticed right away that my voltages were now being reported differently, closer to what they should be. However, since installing the new version, I noticed that Outlook Express runs slower and I consistently get .75 FPS slower in Aquamark 3. This is not a big deal, but it still shouldn't happen. With v1.6.0.0 running in the background with C 'n Q enabled, I always got 31.25 or 31.26 FPS (at least 10 different runs). With v1.6.2.0, I always get 30.54 or 30.55 FPS (4 runs) and I notice hesitations at several points throughout the benchmark. I tried closing down Corecenter and got 31.26 FPS with no hesitation. Also, I have noticed when the computer is sitting idle, the frequency in CoreCenter keeps bouncing around. This tells me that CoreCenter is definitely the problem. This did not happen with v1.6.0.0. I have tried several reboots and I have even uninstalled CoreCenter and re-installed it with LiveUpdate. Does anyone else have this same problem? I always like to keep CoreCenter running, but it looks like I can't anymore. I would re-install v1.6.0.0, but since I used LiveUpdate, it's gone. Does anyone out there have a copy of v1.6.0.0, or better yet, a solution?

i've noticed with the new core center that the fan speed will randomly rise (to an audible level) even when CnQ is keeping the cpu at 800mhz. The only way to slow the fan down again is to close core center and start it again. The settings I use haven't canged, the only cause could be the new core center software.
I haven't updated to the 1.4 bios but I'm about to do that so if things change i'll post back here.

ATI Catalyst 4.9 problem

I searched for this problem with this board in this forum but didn't find anything. I just upgraded the driver for my built by ATI 9600XT to Catalyst 4.9 without the .NET Framework thing from Catalyst 4.4. I tried running Aquamark and got a reboot both times I tried it. The first time was about 30 seconds in, the second time was about 5 seconds in. I re-installed 4.4 and it works fine. Has anyone else had this exact problem? If there's already a post on this, please direct me. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me.
By the way, it's not an overheat or power supply problem as I have plenty of fans and a somewhat competent power supply. Overdrive was not activated either. Everything in the system is at stock speeds. This is the first time I've ever had a spontaneous reboot andI built this PC last December. I can't think of anything other than the driver that could cause this.

Here's the verdict. I got crashes that caused complete reboots and crashes that only crashed back to the desktop and caused the error report thing to come up with both the ATI Catalyst 4.9 Driver and the Omega Driver with fastwrites enabled and disabled with AGP at 8X. I knew that lowering AGP to 4X fixed a lot of other people's problems, but I was hesitant to try it since I had always been rock stable. Based on the adivce in this thread, I lowered AGP to 4X and Aquamark 3 finished. However, I got a score of 30,436 at 30.44 fps where I used to get 31,273 at 31.27 fps with Catalyst 4.4 AGP X8 Fastwrites on. I know that this is very minor an I will see no real world difference, but an "upgraded" driver should not cause decreased performance or require the user to use less aggressive settings, shame on ATI.
McGeyser, I've been playing for about 12 years I guess. Unfortunately for me now, I didn't force myself to learn right-handed. What's wierd is that I'm right handed for most things, but I do write, eat, shoot a slingshot, play guitar, and brush my teeth left handed.....59 reissue....nice

Good tools to use in testing and overclocking

CPUz
A64 Tweaker
Clockgen K8T Neo2 must use version #CG-ICS950405
SiSoft Sandra
Everest
HD Tach 3
Memtest86
Speedfan
HiJack This
PCI Latency Tool
Prime95
3dMark 01, 03, 05 and PCMark 02, 04
PassMark Performance Test V5.0 30 Day Trial
Lavasoft Adaware SE Remove Spyware/Adaware
Spybot Search and Destroy Remove Spyware/Adaware
Netmeter Monitor downloads and uploads. (Freeware version of DU Meter)
Ace Utilities Program to clean registry, temp files, and more. (30-day trial)
Avast Anti-Virus Freeware virus scanner.
Grisoft's AVG 7, free version Free AV.
Aquamarks Benchmarking

Lavasoft Adaware SE Great program to remove Spyware/Adaware
Spybot Search and Destroy Another program to remove Spyware/Adaware. Use both for best results.
Netmeter Great program with a window to monitor downloads and uploads. (Freeware version of DU Meter)
Ace Utilities Program to clean registry, temp files, and more. (30-day trial)
Avast Anti-Virus Freeware virus scanner. (I like it better than Norton)
To tiresmoke...
If you don't want to include any of these that is fine. I wasn't completely sure what all you wanted this to be a list of.
Have Fun
Jeremy

Interesting result: Benchmarking MBP w Battery w/o Battery

Machine: MacBookPro3,1
Standard 15" version with 2GB ram and 256 Vram
Running windows XP SP2 with everything updated/patched via Bootcamp 1.4
Here are the following results: AC plug in w/o Battery AC plug in w Battery
Aquamark 3: 69,300 / 100,500
Final Fantasy XI - Hi: 4280 / 6310
(official Benchmark 3)
Couterstrike Source: 133 fps / 166fps
1440x900, everything max
no AA no AF
Super PI 1.1: 1m40s / 52s
Why battery plug-in or not is an performance issue under window XP? I haven't compared any benchmark on Mac OS X yet.
If battery plug-in will make MBP running in full speed is truth, then it is the best "NOT" to remove your battery even it is fully charged!
More benchmark's result will be coming soon...

Sunny,
Macbook Pros are capable of using more power than the magsafe adapters provide, for short periods of time. In such cases, the battery normally provides the additional power.
When you remove the battery, firmware automatically throttles the CPU to approx. 50%, to avoid drawing more wattage than the magsafe can provide. If it did not, and the magsafe's supply was exceeded, very bad things could happen (in addition to an abrupt and improper shutdown, your MBP's components could be "fried").
Scott

R9600PRO white lines after Omega drivers

Hias,
I installed a Radeon9600PRO on folling config:
-KT3 U2
-2x256MB DDR400
-AMD XP 2000+
-Win XP pro SP1 straight of cd, no updates
-Eizo 17" F56 CRT
-Catalyst 4.11
-Fastwrites is on
-AGP apenture size is 128MB
-AGP speed is 4x
When I tried Aquamark it crashed. So I tried catalyst 4.10, 4.7, 4.9 same result.
When i tried Omega 2.9.5, it did finish but it only gave 16K points on aquamark. According to tomshardware it should do 26K on aquamark.
Since I intalled the Omega drivers, there are thin vertical lines all over the screen. When I deinstalled them and reinstalled catalyst (several versions), the lines stayed .
Edit: White lines have gone after turning of fast write...
2 questions:
-Is 16K on aquamark normal with that config.
-What causes the message EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at the end of aquamark.
Everytime I think I am becoming a HW ace, something like this happens...plz help
Case temp is 26C, it also happens when comp is cold.

It appears KT3 chipset and DDR400 don't mix well.
Since downgrading goes against everything I believe in, I ordered a K8T Neo FSR and Sempron 3100+

Aquamark 03

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