Aquamark3

Hey all,
I did some overclocking benchmarks with the gear listed and was surpised at what I found:
Fixed RAM timings of 2-2-5-2 limit DDR 400, were only achieveable by setting memory voltage to 2.7V. FSB will not sustain an overclock of more than 205 at the tighter timings for me. Anything over 205 FSB w/ Aquamark3 will tear, freeze, or produce a truncation error. Highest attainable score of 46,957 at FSB 205,2-2-5-2, 2.7V. Three times for assurance.
Setting all RAM timings to auto(CPU-Z reports auto timings at 2-3-3-7) and manually specifying memory voltage to 2.7V in Bios; an FSB of 216 was solid but a lower score in Aquamark3 than that of FSB 214. At FSB 214, RAM all set auto, Mem V. at 2.7V, the rig scored 47,189.
I was surprised to see just how touchy the components are and where the convergence takes place. Default mem. voltage is 2.6V with this board. Previously I had all RAM timings set to auto and Mem V at 2.6V, and consistently score 46,800-46,850. By raising my Mem V to 2.7V, though still using auto timings I picked up near 400 pts. w/Aquamark3.
Perhaps Aquamark3 isn't the ideal testing measure, but I have found it to be very consistent and rigorous. It doesn't hurt that a round takes only about 5 mins. compared to 3DMark03 (12 mins. or more).
Does anyone have any experience with Powerstrip? I would like to use it to OC the vid card, but would like to know if the free Demo does anyone any good or do you have to purchase the full version of Powerstrip to get the very last drop of juice out of the card?
Also, is anyone using the onboard sound for K8T Neo? I can not get the 60 sounds in 3DMark03 to work (N/A). My Asus a7n8x onboard will do 60 sounds, shouldn't K8T? Do I have something wrong with the drivers or is this even a unique problem?
TIA

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Originally posted by McGeyser
Thanks for the info. I am surprised the K8T can't do 60 sounds.
Though 3Dmark03 tests the games, the sound is part of the games in the last three tests. Scottg26, you are saying the score is based solely on the FPS and CPU score?
Side note:
After running 3DMark01 SE three times the highest score was 20,385.
3dmark's score is always (3dmark99/00/01/03) made up of the game tests, which is the first 4 or so tests. in 3dmark03 case, it is the plane one (only at the start, not the sound test), the space one, the woman in cave one and the nature test.
the CPU tests only affect the CPU score, not the 3dmark score
Bas: thats the one!!!

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Aquamark3; my score and questions

1.) First I was wondering if this is a good bench to use to see if my computer is up to handling Farcry, Half-life-2, or if there is a better one that you guys prefer for Forum discussion purposes.
2.) Second what do you think of these scores for my setup. I have had driver issues forever that I just solved. Turns out that even though I was loading ATI, MSI and Omega drivers there was a setting that was screwing things up: for some reason "3D" tab under properties had "use custom" selected. I didnt even know that was selected. Dont you think its weird that loading Omega drivers and other wouldnt have reset that?
3.) Are these scores what I should be getting for my setup? Ive been DLing a lot of demos over the last 8 months since I built this. I toyed with the Aquamark3 settings and they are not all on highest which I question as this will effect peoples scores:
(I think I have the latest Aquamark, I cant find a version #. I also have all the latest drivers off the MSI auto DL site)
Res: 1024X 768
Gama: 1.07
FSA: Q3
Texture filtering Anisotropic
Aniosotropy.: 16X
Vsync: on
3 times buffering : on
Scores:
38.88 FPS
GFX 5,565
CPU 6,453
38,880
On the results screen it make it look like its saying 5,565+6453 = 38,880. How is that?
Anyway let me know what your thoughts are. Even if its to go do somthing thats no physically possible or call me a poser. Id like to get my system up to expected speed and then add a mild OC. (Keep in mind the only I have adjusted on my setting is to bring the monitor res to 1024x768. As noted above my system seemd to be retaining certain setting from old drivers and possible my old FX4000 MSI card....so there may be some issues there.)
Thanks
K7n2 Delta - LISR
AMD 2600 (AXDDA26000DKV3D 9486085287232)
1 Gig Memory: 256 Corsair XML Twins 2700 LL + 1 Corsair 512 CMX 2700C2
Antec True480W +5V/38A, +12V/22A, +3.3V/30A; MaxW 480
MSI ATI 9800 Pro
MSI Combo 48x-32x-48x; 16xDVD
Linksys Wireless PCI Adapter
Nothing overclocked(motherboard set on high performance).
XP SP2

"16x AF and vSync ON?"
mmm.....inside aquamark I set Vsync to on. However Antiostropic quality is set to 4x. I think that is what you meant by AF.
If a great question though bc I have know Idea how those people are bench marking against eachother with variable settings. Can you elebortate on AF? I kind of forgot about that one and Im not sure if you talking about setting it outside the Aquamark program or inside it as I remember that can do both.
Im starting a seperate thread about my driver that relates to this, but I think my finding may be of interest to others so I thought a new thread appropriate. Please see it your comments are appreciated.

Help OCing Neo2 Plat w/ 6800

Ok, just for a heads up, I used the search and I couldn't find anything related to my problem, so here I am. With that being said, my specs are in my sig. Here's the problem:
I built this rig about 1 1/2 months ago. I have had a few issues, but nothing major that couldn't be solved by reading through the forums here.
Anyway, I finally decided to OC it a bit. I had previously only been playing with the BFG 6800. I had gotten some pretty good AM3 scores out of it. The CPU OCing was a piece of cake. I kept the multi at 11 and just kept raising the FSB. Now at about 223-225FSB I notice that Aquamark3, or any other 3D app, starts to become slightly glitchy. Some weird flashes of stuff here and there. This is with the graphics card running stock speeds of 350/700. I then lowered the CPU down to 11 x 209 @ 2.3G and the problem went away, even OCing the vid card as high as 380/760 wasn't a problem. I tried raising the FSB to 225 and the problem persists, regardless of vid card clocks.
Here's what I have tried so far. With the card running stock clocks of 350/700 I have tried setting the AGP frq. to 66,67,68 and 69, to no avail. I'm pretty sure the norm is 67 for it to lock. Thinking it may be my RAM, I tried it with the 166 divider, rather than the 200. So at 225FSB, the RAM should be @ 191FSB if I'm not mistaken. That didn't work, so then I tried the HTT multi, thinking it could be related to that. I tried it at 5x(when FSB below 209), 4x(when FSB sbove 209) and 3x(with ANY FSB) and still nothing worked.
I'm really kind of stumped with this and don't really know what else I can try? Is it possible the AGP/PCI lock is just failing? Is there another setting somewhere in the BIOS I need to look for? Also, the BFG 6800 has been softmodded and has all pipes enabled(16/6). Could that be the cause? If it is, why would the graphics only go crazy at higher clock speeds(hmm...I'll have to persue that)? Like I said, I'm just stumped here. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Scooter, the FSB will NOT go past 225 before the graphics get all crazy. I've tried different multi's, memory dividers, memory voltages, AGP speeds, AGP frequencies, fastwrites, sideband addressing and a ton of other crap I can't even remember at this point. If there is a configuration that works, among all the options that there are to play with, the odds of me finding it are the same as winning the lottery.
I also would like to mention that this faulty board does indeed have a 6800/MSI Nforce3 conflict that is totally unacceptable!!! I don't have the same issue with the 5900 in this box that I do with the 6800! I posted in the umpteen page thread regarding the 6800/Nforce3 conflicts too...After 3 previous MSI purchases, I can honestly say that this is the straw that broke Sillys back!
This thread has been up for almost a week and not a single moderator has even offered a lame assed solution to make me feel as if someone gave a ratsass, or was trying to help, so much for the user to user help eh?...Scooter, thanks for at least trying bro, I'll catch ya around AIM...I'm done.
Thanks.

Overclocking Guide

Overclocking Guide
Disclaimer: Overclock at your own risk!
Data and information provided in this guide are for informational and educational purposes only, and are not intended for trading purposes. Neither MSI nor any of this thread’s authors shall be liable for any errors or delays in the content or be held responsible for any damage caused by modifying or overclocking your computer. Manufacturers may or may not honor the warranty on any overclocked or modified computer components. Perform any modifications to your systems at your own risk.
Why Overclock?
Today, overclocking is not any secret. It has become more popular and almost become an addiction to some people. The definition of Overclocking is simple: it means operating an Integrated Circuit beyond its specified clock speed.
But why overclock? Some people say to get more out for the same money. “It’s there; why not get more out of it?” However, the best business reason for overclocking is that it can make “out of date” equipments useful again. If the equipment is already out of warranty, the risk is very limited. (I personally suggest any beginners to overclock any out of date PC first just to have some first time experience.)
Know more about the Central Processing Unit (CPU)
Processor speed is based on two factors. The first is the interface between the motherboard and the front side bus (FSB). From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), FSB is the speed at which the CPU communicates with RAM (memory). Many system components - including the PCI and AGP buses usually run at speeds derived from the frontside bus' speed. In general, a faster frontside bus means higher processing speeds and a faster computer. The other factor controlling a CPU's speed is the clock multiplier. It defines the ratio of processor speed to the FSB.
The FSB on new processors ranges from 400 MHz to 800 MHz. These are not straight clock speeds but instead they are quad-clocked speeds. These processors actually transmit data four times per clock cycle, for example, 800 MHz FSB is actually four times the 200MHz clock (200 MHz x 4 = 800 MHz).
The core speed of the CPU is the product of the front side bus clock and the multiplier. A processor running at 3600MHz (i.e. 3.6 GHz) might be having 800 MHz FSB, this means there is a clock multiplier setting of 4, and thus the CPU is set to run at 4 times the MHz speed of the front side bus.
But we said earlier that they are quad-clocked speeds, so 3600 MHz actually came from 18 times 200 MHz (200 MHz x 18 = 3600 MHz).
Please note that not all processors have quad-clocked speed FSB. For example, the Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood core) has quad-clocked speed FSB. But for example, the Intel Pentium III, AMD Athlon XP and AMD Duron have dual-clocked speed FSB only.
To know more, please read:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2178
Let’s lock the clock multiplier
Few years ago, you could overclock processors by choosing a higher multiplier. This option was eliminated in order to fight CPU remarking. Counterfeit processors have regularly appeared in the market, as the CPU speed was only defined by your setting. Nowadays, the restriction to only one multiplier is both of overclocking and counterfeit prevention.
As you can see, the only way of overclocking today is choosing a higher front side bus clock and the offer of small increments e.g. 1MHz in today's motherboards give us a great advantage in overclocking.
However, some CPUs nowadays are still unlocked, for example, the AMD Athlon MP and AMD Athlon64 families. And some motherboard companies offer the chance to unlock the Pentium 4 (Socket 775 CPUs only) overclocking potential by using special bios, for more please read:
http://www20.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040916/index.html
Look at your motherboard
Before you overclock anything, have a look if your motherboard can overclock CPU. Look at the CPU installation section in the motherboard manual. Normally you will find either BIOS setup options or jumpers on the motherboard that allow you to adjust the FSB, CPU voltage, PCI/AGP ratio etc.
If you have a computer that came from a major manufacturer like HP, it is likely that your motherboard does not provide any overclocking function although it is very rare nowadays.
You need more Power!
This is also the time to check the power supply in your computer. Like a car, speed requires power, and unstable power inevitably leads to unstable processors, so I would recommend the power supply has to be at least 350 Watts. You can find six power supply guides in this forum below:
A Power Supply Guide
AND
Powersupplies(Written by Bas)
AND
Choosing The Right Power Supply
AND
Powersupply calculation....
AND
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles/guides/Power_Supply_Guide_1.html
Both Intel and AMD processors are power hungry, consuming 40 to 100 watts (e.g. the new Prescott) of power. Also, your graphics card may take another 55 watts of power. Now you are consuming more than 100 watts of power for merely two components in your system.
You can also voltmod your Power Supply Unit, for more please read:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/psu-voltmodding.html
Using higher voltages
Today, almost each processor can be run faster than the speed it was labeled for. This applies even more if you raise the core voltage a little bit. This is just like a car running at higher speed requires more power. But this is one of the “riskiest” aspects of overclocking - by using too much power you could burn your CPU. You should always raise the voltage step by step and never go higher than 15% beyond the specification. This way it is quite easy to get a faster system without risking the processor. Apart from raising the voltage of the CPU, similarly you can raise the voltage of memory as well. One problem is of course the increasing chip temperature, so cooling is very important. We will cover that later.
Memory Speed
Memory speed is often tied to the FSB. For example, a Double Data Rate (DDR) 400 memory has frequency 200MHz and the module rating is PC3200. Half the performance increase you may see from overclocking a CPU comes from increasing the speed at which the processor can talk to the memory.
When you buy memory, you may see it has label 2-3-3-7-1T. And you may also hear people saying my memory is a 2-3-3-7 one. But what does it mean? The answer is:
CAS Latency = 2 clock cycles
tRCD = RAS to CAS delay = 3 clock cycles
tRP = RAS Precharge = 3 clock cycles
tRAS = Active to Precharge = 7 clock cycles
Command Rate = 1 clock cycle
Different motherboards may call the above differently and not all of them will appear in the BIOS. You may need to check with your motherboard’s support team and the motherboard manual. If you have any option above in your BIOS, you can also start to adjust them. Obviously, the smaller the number the faster the memory will be.
To know more about memory please read:
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/tech/memory_basics/153707/index.html
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Memory Roundup
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http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2223
Video Card
To overclock video card, we need a third party utility to overclock the card. Although increasing numbers of manufacturers include utilities to allow customers to overclock their cards in their drivers or through an extra application, most of them do not provide this facility. Simply because overclocking stresses the system and voids manufacturer warranties. Third party utilities tend to be universal that they work on different cards irrespective of manufacturers.
Some utilities and the places to download included:
1. OMEGA Drivers
http://www.omegacorner.com/
2. StarStorm Drivers (Nvidia cards only)
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10
3. RivaTuner
http://www.guru3d.com/
4. PowerStrip
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/
5. Rage3D Tweak (ATI cards only)
http://www.rage3d.com/index.php?node=r3dtweak
6. RadLinker (ATI cards only)
http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/
7. ATITool (ATI cards only)
http://atitool.ocfaq.com/
Please read their own manuals in their corresponding web pages. Also, if you want to be able to have the hidden functions in Nvidia card, create a file with notepad and put this in it (thanks for Deathstalker to provide this source):
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"Coolbits"=dword:ffffffff
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage"=dword:00000001
Save it as agpsetting.reg to your desktop or anywhere you like. Then run it and it will give you all the hidden options from Nvidia which include extra resolution settings for your desktop and overclocking for both the memory and core.
For ATI Radeon X800 Pro softmod, please read (link provided by mopey):
http://www.ocforums.com/showindex.php?t=312063
For ATI Radeon X800 Pro voltage mod, please read (link provided by NovJoe):
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=817&s=1
For ATI Radeon 9800 XT voltage mod, please read (link provided by NovJoe):
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=760&s=1
To can change your Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB graphic card to Radeon 9800XT card, please read (in English):
http://www.rojakpot.com/(jiljtv55hwgq5uabzft0f5re)/default.aspx?location=3&var1=92&var2=0
To change your GeForceFX 5900 graphic card to GeForceFX 5900 Ultra, please read (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0403/readocarticle.asp?id=2410
To change your GeForceFX 5700 Ultra graphic card to QuadroFX 1100, please read (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0403/readiyarticle.asp?id=2387
Get the temperature down
Cooling is probably the most important aspect of overclocking. Overclocking causes circuits to cycle faster, generating more heat. If the CPU is not cooled properly, your CPU will not run reliably and there is a very good chance that you will permanently damage your CPU.
The heat sink and fan unit that Intel and AMD ship with its CPU are fairy good. However, for maximum stability, we need to get something better than that. For example, for CPU fans, we have Vantec Tornado, Thermaltake volcano 7+, CoolerMaster Aero 4 and Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu etc.
Be sure that the cooling solution you choose is specifically designed for your processor. Improperly mounting a heat sink, using the wrong model can damage your processor.
Also, the airflow in the case is very important. If heat cannot escape the case, the CPU is still at risk. Thus, more case fans are needed apart from the power supply's exhaust fan. Tidying up the cables inside the case can help too. In addition, clearing the dust in the case by using canned compressed air can enhance the airflow but never use vacuum cleaner as it may generate electrostatic and harm the IC components.
For more about cooling, you can also read these:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle3.html
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http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle2.html
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Cooling guide(Written by J*A*G)
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http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_cooling
For more about CPU fan, please read:
BEST Overclockers CPU cooler????
For more about Water Cooling, please read:
Water cooling...
Keep the Noise Down
Unless your computer is cooled by a water cooling system, it will be pretty noisy. To keep the noise down, please read this:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle_quiet_computing.html
Overclocking Process
Essentially, overclocking processors consists of increasing the FSB in the BIOS, booting the computer, and then testing for stability. You repeat the process until you identify the maximum stable speed.
In case your board offer 1 MHz-increments (which most of your boards do), you have the chance to find out the maximum clock speed by slowly closing in on the final limit MHz for MHz. Of course this cannot be done in an hour, but you will have to spend one or two days just playing with different clock speed settings. In the end you should have your CPU running at the highest possible core speed. The Most important thing to remember is that you must go Slowly!
Also, you can overclock the processor by using software although it may not be as effective as overclocking using the motherboard BIOS. Such software includes:
1. ClockGen
http://www.cpuid.com/
2. CPUFSB
http://mitglied.lycos.de/podien/
3. 8rdavcore
http://www.hasw.net/8rdavcore/
Here is a thread that talks about overclocking an Intel Pentium 4 2.4cGHz to 3.0GHz using Intel 865PE chipsets. (You may treat it as an example of overclocking.):
Best 865PE Overclock for 2.4C to 3.0+
Changing the FSB is a relatively simple matter of entering the computer's BIOS setup screen, switching from automatic to manual configuration and selecting the FSB speed you want. Here are some utilities that you can check your computer’s setting, especially CPU speed:
1. CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com
2. WCPUID (Linux supported)
http://www.h-oda.com
3. AIDA32
http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php
http://aumha.org/freeware.htm
4. PC Wizard
http://www.cpuid.com/
5. EVEREST
http://www.lavalys.com/
6. Motherboard Monitor
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
7. HWiNFO and HWiNFO32
http://www.hwinfo.com/
8. SpeedFan
http://www.almico.com/
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
9. Motherboard Monitor
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/download.html
10. Intel Processor Frequency ID Utility (Intel CPU only)
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/tools/frequencyid/
11. AMD CPU Information Display Utility (AMD CPU only)
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871,00.html
For more, you can go to the following to have a browse:
http://www.3degs.net/
Bear in mind that if the processor is capable of a 20-percent or more speed increase say, it is unlikely that your video card or memory can have the same amount of increase. And the one thing that you must remember to do if you overclock the FSB is to Set (i.e. Lock) your AGP/PCI Buses, to as close to their Default Frequencies as Possible (to PCI bus at 33 MHz and the AGP port at 66 MHz for example), or you will most definitely experience problems across the whole board e.g. your graphics card, onboard sound and IDE channels may start giving you data and other errors.
Test for Stability and Benchmarking
The purpose of testing is to apply a heavy workload to every aspect of your system to ensure that there are no hidden problems and stability issue. You can do testing by using special testing suites, software and games. The aim of benchmarking is to measure the performance of your system. In overclocking, benchmarking can tell you how far the system’s performance has increased when you adjust certain settings.
For a test suite, you may try Winbench, which you can download from:
http://www.etestinglabs.com/benchmarks/winbench/winbench.asp
Special software for testing and benchmarking included:
1. CPU Burn (Linux supported)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/
2. PCMark 04
http://www.futuremark.com/
3. Aquamark 3
http://www.aquamark3.com/
4. SiSoftware Sandra Standard 2004
http://www.sisoftware.net/
5. Prime95 (Linux supported)
http://www.mersenne.org/
(For more about Prime95, please read: how to use prime 95 properly)
6. Memtest86 (Linux supported)
http://www.memtest86.com/
7. Memtest86+ (Linux supported)
http://www.memtest.org/
8. Super PI (Linux supported)
http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/Pi/Super_Pi.html (Windows version)
http://ftp://pi.super-computing.org/Linux/super_pi.tar.gz (Linux version)
9. ScienceMark
http://www.sciencemark.org/
10. SETI @home (Linux supported)
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
For testing video card, you can run Games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament demo mode and left running in loops. You should be able to run a game in a loop for at least two hours after a reboot without a problem. Also, you can use 3DMark05 from FUTUREMARK (download from http://www.futuremark.com/).
1. Unreal Tournament (Linux supported)
http://www.unrealtournament.com/
2. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (Linux supported)
http://games.activision.com/games/wolfenstein/
3. Quake (Linux supported)
http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/
4. Call Of Duty
http://www.callofduty.com/index.asp
5. X2 - The Thread
http://www.egosoft.com/
6. Colin McRae Rally 4
http://www.codemasters.co.uk/colinmcraerally04/uk/colinmcraerally04.php
7. Nascar Thunder 2004
http://www.easports.com/games/thunder2004/home.jsp
8. Halo
http://www.microsoft.com/games/halo/
9. Farcry
http://www.farcry.ubi.com/
10. Half-Life
http://games.sierra.com/games/half-life/
11. Doom 3 (Linux supported)
http://www.doom3.com/
Tips: The benchmark can be performed by using “demo1” which ships with Doom 3. Open the console (Windows: Ctrl+Alt+~; Linux: ~) and type “timedemo demo1”.
12. Battlefield Vietnam
http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/vietnam/us/home.jsp
13. Serious Sam
http://www.serioussam.com/
14. Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness
http://www.tombraider.com/
15. Halo
http://www.bungie.net/
16. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
http://www.splintercell.com/
Conclusion
I suggest you to read this guide one more time before you overclock to make sure that you have not missed anything. Wish you have a good overclocking experience, have fun! Here is also another guide to make your have a Happier and Healthier System:
http://www.antec-inc.com/pdf/article/info_DIYArticle4.html
The following teaches you how to change an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ to an Athlon MP 1700+ (in Traditional Chinese):
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0304/readocarticle.asp?id=1390
Also, for a Step By Step Overclocking Guide and other overclocking guides, you can go to:
1. General overclocking tips
2. more overclocking help
3. Hardware & Overclocking FAQ in bit-tech
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showindex.php?t=51323
4. Overclocking Guide in OC Forums
http://www.ocforums.com/showindex.php?t=263753
5. Link Guide for anyone new to Overclocking in PC Perspective
http://forums.pcper.com/showindex.php?t=173635
6. Overclocking Guide in Help Overclocking
http://www.helpoverclocking.com/english/index.htm
7. AMD Optimal BIOS settings + Overclocking Guide
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&howtoID=43
8. Tom's Hardware CPU Overclocking Forum (contains a few overclocking guides)
http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_cpu (for CPU)
9. Tom's Hardware Graphic Cards Overclocking Forum (contains a few overclocking guides)
http://www.community.tomshardware.com/forum/postlist.m?Cat=&Board=over_graphics (for Graphic Cards)
For a guide on Modding Tools, please read:
Modding Tools
Please post any comment and/or suggestion as well as dead link of this guide (Version 1.49) at the following thread:
Overclocking Guide Suggestion/Comment
I would like to thank for the help and support from Bas and Wonkanoby as well as advice from Raven_, Slimbooyphat and The Fellow in setting up this guide.

Quote from: ferohh on 01-March-05, 04:39:20
I tried to overclock my p4. 2,66ghz to 3.18ghz.
l increased the cpu fsb only since the multiplier is fixed at 20x.
l tried to change it but couldn´t.
l then increased my cpu voltage from 1.525v to 1.732v.
At 3.2ghz, the computer was on and restarts automatically, so l turned it to 3.18ghz.
does it mean the cpu will not overclock further or l need a new cooler?
I did not overclock anything except the fsb.
any help?
I have a 2.6C Northwood pentium 4 on an MSI 875P Neo2-FISR mobo. On air I'm able to get it to about 3.14Ghz stable. I don't believe it's a good idea to go past 1.6 for the voltage, from what I've read, voltage doesn't help too much with the northwoods.
I can overclock mine higher without any significant changes in temperatures, but the overclocks aren't stable and the system freezes up from time to time. I'm using Kingston HyperX PC4000 DDR, which can run at up to 500mhz, so I can do a 1:1 ratio on the overclock. I'm using a modular 500-watt power supply, Arctic Silver 5 and a huge honking Swiftech heatsink with an 80mm fan.

Help with XP2400, low scores and OCing...

This is my first post on this forum, just to let everyone know right off the bat you are dealing with a nOOb!! I have a little knowledge on the subject from all the reading I've done the last week or two, but still am new to this...Ok, that being said, here we go...
AMD Athlon [email protected](15x150)(49 idle, 55 under load)
MSI KM2M combo MS-6738
768MB pc2700(set:BY SPD, 6,3,3,2.5)
BFG Gforce FX5900XT 475/794
SoundBlaster Live 5.1
40G HD / Win XP Home
stock PSU 250 watt (yea,yea, more power, I know)
Ok, I just upgraded my vid. card to play BFV because my old Gforce4 mx440se just wasn't cutting it anymore....When I upgraded I started to run some benchmarks(N Bench, SiSiftwareSandra2004, Aquamark3...).....After running AM3 I noticed that my cpu score was much slower than many of the others(cpu 4989 gfx 6099 overall 37,774)...I mean slower than 1.6 G machines, which I found to be quite disturbing! My graphics score holds up nicely compared to others (the FX5900XT OC's like a champ!)...I have all the latest chipset drivers, vid card drivers, sound card drivers etc....My cpu is overclocked using fsb only because my mobo won't allow access to multipliers and voltage controls. After unlocking the 2400, it set to 933Mhz(7x133) to show it was working, but no added options are found...Ater locking it, I realize I need a new motherboard(micro-atx) that will support my pc2700 and a 400 fsb....I don't know if an Nforce 2 will work because they are very selective about the memory they accept...Any suggestions?
I just basically wanted to know why my cpu tests so low in AM3, but not on Sandra2004 with her MIPS and MFLOPS.....It tests well above theXP2400,XP3000, and just better than theXP3200!!! If I use AIDA32, my cpu tests really low as well...What the hell is going on here? I want to know why 1.6 G machines are beating mine? is it possible my cpu just doesn't like certain benches? Why does it test well in 1 test and bad in another? My cpu score should be almost 2000 points higher in the AM3 bench than it is...Right? What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, run on post....I wrote it on my way out the door just before work...If any more info is needed, please let me know...
Thanks in advance for any replies..Like I said, I'm new to this and any help would be greatly appreciated..Thanks again!
TY,
Silly

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hate to put u down again slider, but remember your ram may not work with the nforce2 chipset, but theirs a very slim chance u may get lucky
i've never had a compatibility issue with nForce2 board, EVER
ur kidding right? ive been at these forums almost as long as the nforce2 chipset has been out, and many ram modules will not work with the nforce2 chipsets, now the k7n2 series is a bit more pickier then other manufacturers, but come on dude, check these out:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=14555&sid=
ever notice why when someone says their comp wont boot and we ask for the ram type?
some of my ram is ON that LIST, early revisions DID have problems with RAM, i have never had problems with the ultra and turbo revisions

Memory timing (2,2,2,5 vs 2.5,3,3,6 vs 3.0,4,4,8) Benchmark scores..

Hi
See ..
PCMark2002
3DMark2k3
AquaMark3
Lame MP3 Encoder
3D Studio MAX v5.1
Unreal Tournament 2k3
Warcraft III
Main Concept 1.3.1 Mpeg Encoder
Comments?
Source : Toms Hardware

Yes I read the Article, and Yes of Coarse CAS 2 is going to be Faster than CAS 2.5, and CAS 3.0 When you Are Only Comparing DDR-400 Memory ..I want to see a test Between DDR-400 at CAS 2.0, and DDR-500 or 533, at CAS 3.0 and You will Not see the Gaps that you Do with just DDR-400 againt itself....As you can see be the First Chart on the How it Works Page (That you did not Post) that the Max Bandwith that DDR-400 has when in Dual DDR Configuration is 6.4 GB/SEC, But if you Look at the DDR-533 With CAS 3.0, It Has a Max of 8.4 GB/SEC!!..That is a 25% Increase ...............Sean REILLY875

CPU and GPU slow down after system upgrade

Ok, I can't find anything similar to the question I have...but this forum goes on forever
As my system specs appear below, my machine was running quite comfortably a week ago, with same setup...minus the acrylic case and second 120GB hard drive.
At that stage I had "nomal" benchmarking scores 3dmark03 - 5850, Aquamark3 41.000, PC mark 2002 - cpu7020 mem8438 hdd1050.
Life was good and I loved my system
Then I decided it would be cool to upgrade to an acrylic case (which has better cooling with 3 fans) and a second 120 GB HDD to make a striped raid array.
My first concern was the raid Array. I was carefull to buy the exact same seagate hard drive, size etc. the original was only a month old anyway. The second was to use the intel southbridge chip for SATA RAID or the Promise controller? After researching these forums I decided to go with the Intel as it has more possible bandwidth and doesn't sit on the PCI bus.
I got the new case and wearing those stupid white gloves, proceeded to move the components over and trash my "old" metal case.
The windows NTFS format (full) flew by in 30 seconds and I was really impressed.
Once windows xp and all it's drivers and updates were installed, incl sound and graphics etc. I did a 3Dmark 2001 test before upgrading to Dx9...what a bad mark! 3Dmark2001SE - 9950 (terrible for this system).
I thought it was a DX problem...so I installed Dx9
Then opened that corecenter program (the old one, the one that doesn't crash...)
and my CPU was about 5c hotter than usual, it was running at 40-42c (I have standard intel cooling fan). It went up to 55 at times when running PC mark 2002.
This didn't concern me too much a the system was stable at 32-34c and the northbridge read 60c (but we all know that's not true , more like 35ish.
My PC mark 2002 is now cpu4200 - mem4800 - hdd1800
(at least the HDD improved!) LOL
I ran Aquamark3 next...29,900 (ouch!)
Previously my CPU was 8,700 and GPU was 5300
now the CPU read 4400 and the GPU 4600
I don't really notice the speed loss when working, but games and benchmarks tell a different story.
So, My question: What has happened? Why is my CPU power cut in half? and the graphics card slightly slower? The memory speed stayed the same and the HDD speed improved....not a worthwhile upgrade IMO
What went wrong?
Here are my theories.
1) The CPU and system case is getting too hot
Does the CPU "throttle" when it overheats? this could be the reason.
Also both HDD get really hot and the fan in front blows air over them, this hot air could be going over the CPU or GPU. Maybe get 2 HDD coolers?
should I buy a better CPU cooler like the Thermaltake spark7+ ?
2) The PSU does not have enough watts
I couldn't find traces of voltage lack or spikes...but it could still be a problem
3) The RAID0 array is a strain on the CPU and chipset
I'm not sure about this.
My appologies for the lengthy thread, but I wanted to be sure that anyone trying to figure this out had as much info as possible
Thanks if u can help me figure this out.

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Originally posted by Reaver
When I originally installed the intel p4 cooler, I used artic silver ceramique paste...and the CPU temp operates at 36-38c with no load.
Perhaps I should upgrade the overall cooling. Get a Thermaltake copper fan and two HDD coolers.
Well, your temps sound allright, no need to worry them, if they really operate at that level.
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The solution to set the FSB to 201Mhz sounds good. But do I set this in the BIOS or with Corecenter in windoze?
Propably meant to adust your FSB at BIOS, at least that is what I would suggest.
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I will try to re-install the VGA drivers because something strange DID happen when I first installed them. I started with the hercules driver CD, this installed CAT 3.2 drivers. I then upgraded to CAT 3.7 and before it completed I got an error window (send, dont send).
Remove drivers AND ATI control panel first, and then re-install. Use drivers from ATI site, and rather Catalyst 3.7. I Have had problems with 3.8 Catalysts.
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Still wouldn't explain why the CPU seems so crippled. I have managed to get a "normal cpu score of 7000+ in PCmark2002 by shutting down, restarting later and killing every process except explorer.
Do you have any processes that seem to eat more juice thant hey should? Arrange your processes by CPU usage and see if there is something strange.
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If this cant be fixed I will reinstall over the weekend. Does anyone know of the RAID0 array on the southbridge causing a system slowdown?
I'm using Intel RAID and it works perfectly, no extra CPU usage is shown and it's pleasantly fast!
And Install latest Intel INF updates and Application Accelerator from Intel site. That's what I'm using, and works fine.

Problems With my nx7900gt...HELP!! (SOLVED)

I got like a week ago an msi nx7900gt it isntalled fine, and the first game a trew at her looked amazin (TES Ovlibion)... how ever after that I installed all my favorites benchmarks 3Dmark03,05,06 and aquamark3... All of them rab just fine, but aftehr the end of this test on 3dmark06 (deep Freeze). the screen froze, I managed to get to the desktop but the the monitor woul toun off an on every couple of seconds.... I had to manual reset the card.. and form the on things got worse... Now only aquamark runs on my system, Im getting artifacts on Tomb rider legends, ( however Ovlibion and hitman: Blood Money Woked just fine...) and I can even get F.E.A.R to run.... and any time I have a graphic glitch threre goes the monitor, On off on off..... I tried using nvidial latest oficial drives, and even the ones that are in msi pages (It was worse with those....) And I must say Its almos impossible for me to return the card The store I got it from Imports forms the states every copule on moths and the say something about me having to pay to ship it back..( im In Venezuela.) And the cost was like 150$!!! the is no temp porblems on the core it idles at 40c and goes up to 47 on load... is not over clocked (neither is my CPU)...
Here are My specs...
CPU AMD 64 X2 4200
MoBo: Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe.
Video: MSI NX7900gt.
Memory: SmartVision 1Gb (512 x2).
HDD: WD caviar 250 SATA.
PSU Thermaltake Purepower 600 wts..
runnig on winxp sp2.
Peripheral: logitech g15( keyboard.)
Logitech g5 (mice).

Thanks god for the flu!!!
I got Sick yestreday so I skipped work today...and this time I took My time to work out the errors I was getting from My video card. I first Un-Installed The thermaltake PurePower, and installed the MSI Turbo Stream...
I only Plugged in The MoBo molex one Of the SATA HDD and The PCIe plug.( the one form the psu). turned on Mi pc and it was fine, so I started aquamark3... It ran fine, 3dmark03, 3dmark05 FIne! it was time for the dreaded 3dmark06... IT pass the deep freeze test.... so I went for one last test... re installed FEAR, and yes It ran perfectly....tested all the other games I had installed ( Sin episodes, Tomb Rider Legends, Ovlibion NFS, Most wanted...) and all ran fine!!!! Althoug In tomb rider I had to disable nex gen graphics... It kind of lagged with that on...
So it was a power Issue... dam My brand new 240$ psu did not worked were a 32$ did....
but then I start to think It had to do with the way I had connected the components on the thermaltake psu so re installed the TT did some changes on the connections!!!! IT did it, I even installed al 3 case fans plus the other SATA HDD, And it was all ok....
Thanks a lot to $SOLID$ Necro form pcapex.com for all the help..
Hope this help other 7900 owners....

Reset Games

I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH MY COMPUTER.
WHILE I AM PLAYING 3D GAMES(GENERALS.GENERALS ZERO HOUR,MAX PAYNE 2,MATRIX,NFS UNDER,I THINK ALL GAMES.....),COMPUTER RESET OR RETURN DESKTOP OR FREEZE .I CANT UNDERSTAND.I CHANGED MY PSU(NEW PSU=480W THERMALTAKE) BUT ANYTING DIDNT CHANGE.PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!! MY COMPUTERS PROPERTY
*INTEL 3GHZ PRESSCOT
*i865PE PSERIES
*512mb KINGSTON
*160GB SEAGATE SATA
*LEADTEK FX5900XT 128MB
*480W THERMALTAKE PSU
*SAMSUNG CDRW AND CDROM
*BIOS 3.5v

I think i'll add my story too. Since i'm pretty new to hw i'd like to learn as much as possible.
Recently i bought a Sapphire Radeon 9800XT. I already know that it appears to be normal for the card to get hot. Personnally mine has a constant temp of 66°C in idle status so without playing 3dgames. Now that may be normal but it crashes during COD gameplay and on top of that it also crashed during a standard aquamark3 benchmark, resulting in a reset button push.
It's not the previous (nvidia) drivers problem since i did a clean install (format c:\).
I'm not sure if it's a heat problem, my case (mentionned further on) has four fans, three intake (i think) one exhaust.
Following tech. details of my machine:
.CPU intel pentium 4 - 2.6GHz
.MSI mobo 875P NEO series
.Video Card (Model: RADEON 9800 XT; Driver: ati2mtag.sys)
.Sound Card (Manufacturer: Creative Technology Ltd.) Model: Creative AudioPCI
.RAM 512mb
.Zalman psu 400W
.Case=ThermalTake Lanfire (http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCas...ire/vm2000a.htm)
Core centre (idle status):
Vcore=1.57v
3.3v=3.34v
+5v=5.03v
+12v=11.76v
cpu temp=33°C
sys temp=33°C
case temp=25.9°C
CPU fan speed=+/- 2766rpm
NB fan speed=+/- 4115rpm
Could anyone help me out plz? Many thx in advance!

6800gt, repeated short freezes, missing textures

Picked up a 6800GT today. Used ATI's cleaner app to get rid of my old 9700pro drivers, and installed the 6800gt. Installed the newest 61.77 drivers.
I ran Aquamark3, scored 58,536. Next I ran 3DMark. On the second test the screen started to freeze for 3-4 seconds, then it would continue normally for 5-10, then freeze for 3-4 seconds. I uninstalled 3Dmark, reinstalled it, and the problem went away. Scored 11,151.
Ran Doom3, works great. Reinstalled UT2004 (just did a full format a few days ago), d/l'd the latest patch, jump on a server, and its doing the same thing 3DMark did. Every 5-10 seconds the screen freezes for 3-4 seconds, the sound loops rapidly, and then it stops and everything looks great for another 5-10 seconds. Uninstalled 61.77, installed 61.76, still does it. Uninstalled UT2004, reinstalled it, same problem. Another game I run, Asheron's Call 2, is doing the same thing UT2004 is. Plus in Asheron's Call 2 I often see textures missing completely.
I would not be surprised if the issue is my PSU. Its a no-name 350w. +12v=12a, -12v=.8a, -5v=.5a. I nearly picked a new one up while in the store. But I had just finished reading a ton of reviews saying "350w is fine, even 300w is fine", so I figured I'd give it a shot. Now I don't mind going out and spending the cash for a new PSU, but I'd rather not do it purely for the sake of troubleshooting. I've already spent the entire day updating drivers, chipset drivers, and everything else I could think of. But I wont be offended if you suggest something really simple.
AMD 64 3200+
WD 250gig SATA 8mb HD
1 gig Corsair XMS DDR400
6800GT OC
Anyone have any suggestions?

Clocks, are you overclocking your GT? This sounds like clock throttling to me. It will happen when you try to OC the card too much. If you can, download Rivatuner and have it monitor your clock frequencies and temperatures while you are playing UT2k4. When it freezes, check Rivatuner to see if the clock frequencies changed, or maybe if the temps are too high.
Also, I've heard of some people having problems at stock speeds, but once they took off the HSF and replaced those thermal pads on the memory with AS5 it would work fine. If it's an option for you, I would put AS5 on the memory and core.

FX5600 freezes in 3D

Hi, got GREAT PROBLEM. My MSI FX5600 -VDTR128MB freezes in 3D applications.
IT IS NOT A MOBO ISSUE - i have got MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo with PC3200 512MB 400MHz memory (Kingston). As far as seen allready on forum THIS ISSUE COMES UP QUITE OFFTEN, so WHERE IS THE SUPPORT TEAM FROM MSI! I will never select MSI again, furthermore explaining that all errors occure becouse not up-to -date drivers is a big missunderstanding - I HAVE ALL LATEST DRIVERS.
So i am awaiting the support teams aswer.
Currently on updated WinXP Prof (Service Pack 1),
BIOS, drivers update made on 25-10-2003 using LiveUpdate3.
Regards
Mark

Thanx Calmcookie,
after running down AGP to 4x from 8x and replacing MSI Drivers with nVidia ones,
all works fine.
In fact I have also instaled the newest nVidia nforce drivers.
Currently the GFX drivers version is: 6.14.10.5216.
And the AquaMark3 benchmark result is:
for the GPU 6.517
for the GFX 2.040
(5.312.896 tps)
Overall: 17.648
how about the results? (config below) are thy OK? or should I worry?
but look at this, seems interesting:http://www.msi.com.tw/program/service/forum/index.php?threadid=33796&sid=
Best Regards
Marek
P.s.
...so I think i closed the configuration, time to say 'HELO' If you know what I mean

Found something very strange about Memory Bandwidth

Okay ever since I posted my 3.2Ghz overclock thread i've been doing some testing...
rolling back to 3Ghz from 3,2Ghz gives me 100% stability with prime95, which isn't that weird, BUT!
When I boot with a FSB of 250 (3Ghz) DDR400 (200Mhz) (4:5 divider) in the BIOS and run a memory bandwidth test in SiSoft Sandra I get a memory score of
~4800Mb/s
Which isn't that strange... A good score..
When I boot with a FSB of 267 (3,2Ghz) DDR427 (213,5Mhz) (4:5 divider) in the BIOS and run a memory bandwidth test in SiSoftware Sandra I get a memory score os
~5150Mb/s
Which isn't eithat that strange, a resonable gain considering the few extra Mhz I pumped out of the DDR (running at 2,5-3-3-6).
But here comes the really really strange part...
I boot with a FSB of 267 (3,2Ghz) into windows..
I change the FSB to 250 (3Ghz) with CoreCenter or ClockGen..
DDR goes back to 200Mhz (DDR400) (this all confirmed with Z-CPU)
I run a memory Bandwidth test in SiSoftware Sandra (restarted the program, not just running another one on top) and I get a memory score of...
....~5150Mb/s
I get similar scores running other benchmarks (in this case Aquamark3) that would suggest that there is a much greater performance loss in setting the BIOS FSB to 250Mhz rather than setting it to 367Mhz then lowering it in windows.
Does anyone have any idea why this happends?
I am really interested in peoples theories
Neo2-LS 1.8
P4 2,4C @ 3Ghz | 1Ghz FSB
2x256M Dual DDR400 @ 2,5-3-3-6-8 200Mhz
Radeon 9500PRO
Antec TruePower 430W

the 367 in the end is a typo, ment to say 267... ~1050Mhz FSB - 3,2Ghz for a 2,4C
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Maybe I'm not reading your post carefully enough-(its been along day)but on the final configuaration what are your memory timings? Also did you mean to say setting timings to 267 as opposed to 367?
My DDR timings are listed at the end of my post.. The same timings are used when i'm running at 3Ghz and 3,2Ghz. 2.5-3-3-6
At 3Ghz with a DDR Speed of 333 I get 400Mhz (200Mhz per module) running FSB 250 (from 200)
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Originally posted by REILLY875
I am confused to... When you say 367MHZ do you mean memory speed at a 5:4 ratio?..Sean REILLY875
Yes i'm running at a 5:4 ratio.. 367 is a typo, I ment to say 267 and I ment the FSB not the memory..
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What is your DRAM speed set as in BIOS?
What does your DDR Clock in BIOS shows?
Check with CPUZ and see what Freq x 2 is your RAM running at?
The DRAM Speed is left at 4:5 (333) and the speed is 427Mhz when booting to 3,2Ghz (FSB 267)
The DRAM Speed is left at 4:5 (333) and the speed is 400Mhz when booting to 3Ghz (FSB 250)
READ THIS CAREFULLY
Okay, to put this simply...
Overclock in BIOS to 3Ghz with a DDR Ratio of 5:4
BIOS FSB: 250
BIOS DDR: 400
Sandra Memory Bandwidth Benchmark Score: ~4800Mb/s
Overclock in BIOS to 3,2Ghz with a DDR Ratio of 5:4
BIOS FSB: 267
BIOS DDR: 427
CPU Speed: 3,2Ghz
Sandra Memory Bandwidth Benchmark Score: ~5150Mb/s
So far nothing strange, okay?
-This is where it gets tricky...-
Overclock in BIOS to 3,2Ghz with a DDR Ratio of 5:4
BIOS FSB: 267
BIOS DDR: 427
CPU Speed: 3,2Ghz
In Windows I change the FSB back to 250.
FSB: 250
DDR: 400
CPU Speed: 3Ghz
Sandra Memory Bandwidth Benchmark Score: ~5150Mb/s
To cut this short...
I get more memory bandwidth when booting to 3,2Ghz than 3Ghz even though when i'm in windows I change back to 3Ghz from 3,2Ghz.¨
Any more questions? =)
This is really easy if you just read it all closely and if I don't make any more typos :D

Vista SP1 decreased the graphic performance

I installed Service Pack 1 through Windows update today and it decreased my laptop performance a lot :(
For example my GPU and CPU had 68000 points in aquamark3 without SP1 but after install a made a test and got only 53000.
Later I removed SP1 and now everything works like before.
Anyone experienced the same?

Well this is pretty strange because the service pack 1 should do the opposite thing and increase performance, as you can read it often in the internet.
Have you reinstalled your graphic card driver too?
To be honest, I have not uses some benchmark tool to check if performance was changed, so I only got a Vista with integrated SP1.
One thing you could try is, to do a complete reinstallation of your operating system and after you installed Vista do a SP1 upgrade. Then install all drivers, tools and applications.

Why does 3Dmark05 give me this error?

This is a version I got off Limewire and its not full retail. Its only a demo. Got this error:
IDirect #DDevice9:Present failed:Device lost(D3DERR_Divice Lost)
I have the latest drivers off the Nvidia website. What gives? Never used 3d05 before, but I was just testing my new ASUS hybrid card with various benchmarks to make sure things seem to be running right. I do get a posted score in 3dmark05, even though it kicks me out and zaps my screen temporarily to 800X600. 3dmark05, after clicking the ok buttun after the error message posts my score 3,106 which seems about right seeing that I have a slower system.
So far I have only benched this card, havent played any games for more then ten minutes. graphics seem better.Im not seeing the improvements in Far Cry that I though I would get from a 6800GT on full settings. I know this is a DDR128, but I just though things would be a smoother. Clarity is much better then the 9800pro and this card runs suppringly cool that 6600GT I tested was dangerously hot and I didnt want anything that hot in my case.
I dont think there is anything wrong with the card. I tested a 6600GT the other week and the this 6800GT hybrid did get me from 43K to 46K on Aquamark3. My 9800pro was at 41K with a slight overclock.....maybe I try some Farcrytests to see if that shows anything...
BTW I just was going to tell you have the latest drivers and was going to post the version, because after I got the card up and running I downloaded the latest from Nvidia. Why does my Display Adapter when I click on properties say "7/9/2004" version "6.2.1.1"?....Now when I ran the driver update, it said it was updating the drivers and the drivers name they were version 9/13/05?

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>It sounds like the version you got may be damaged. I would try getting the download directly from futuremark. The link >to download it is http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark05.shtmlQuote
I tried it with another version of 3Dmark05 and got the same error. I also noticed it does it during the CPU test where it tries to make the CPU think its a GPU. I found this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/directx9_c/directx/graphics/programmingguide/gettingstarted/devices/lostdevices.asp
I also checked around the net. Seems like there are two reasons for this "lost" error. A resident program pissing 3dmark05 or a voltage issue....I havent had any problems with my system and only have then with 3dmark05. This is with a new version of 3dmark05 and newest drivers installed after Driver Cleaner. SO I still dont know whats up....Again it only does it durring the CPU test for 3Dmark05 and in particular always errors out right when the monster is emerging from the water During the zepplin test.
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>As far as the jump is scores, that does not seem like enough going from the 9800 to the 6800. I was able to play >FarCry on my machine will ultra settings with my 9800 (but no anti-aliasing or ansiotropic filtering). And only going from >41k to 46k with aquamark also seems low. Did you use a drivercleaner to fully remove your ATI drivers? If not I would >remove both the NVidia drivers and get the cleaner and clean both ATI and NVidia drivers off of the system and >reinstall your NVidia drivers.Quote
In my previous post I noted that I was only using the ASUS drivers dated 4/05. Well I went back and used Driver Cleaner then tested. The scores were about the same, but gameplay and visuals were much smoother as I would expect from a card like this. I though that was odd given I had pretty much the same scores(meaning Aquamark stayed the same and 3dmark went up about 300 points). I then went back to Nvidias site and got the newest drivers and they loaded right this time
Aquamark: increased 1,000 overal to a solid 47,000-47,500 (I was getting 41K with 9800pro,XTbios OC)
3dmark03: 9608 (from 9137)
3dmark05: same score no changes (as noted above still errors out at CPU test)
Thanks for the input I am VERY happy to be running solid 47000-47500 Aquamarks where as before I was runnign 45500-46000 with driver issues. I not as familiar with 3dmark scores and how the differences pan out when playing games. But you mentioned that My scored seemed low. Is this 47,500 more like what you thought? Also remember the card that I have is a 16,6 6800 GT but has 1ddr128. In this review this guy only gets for 3Dmark03 10,290(vs my 9,608) but he has a 64 bit system. In another review using 3Dmark05 the guy gets 3,838 vs my 4,060 Here the card with some scores:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-11.html
http://www.ap0calypse.com/showthread.php?t=1287
Things of note:
1.) Graphics seemed less chopy by just using driver cleaner, but scored stayed about the same.
2.) After gettting the latest drivers too. Aquamark showed a significant change, yet 3d05 stay the same
3.) Question Driver Cleaner said to "empty the recycle bin" while in safe mode. I couldnt do this. How do I do that?
4.) All this with the 1.3 Far Cry patch makes the game much nicer. I can do Full Blast settings, but there is some screen rippple every 15 seconds or so. Not to bad, But not flawlwss like a 64 bit system.

Overclocking the FX5900XT

As I can't currently get the 3D!Turbo Experience overclocking tool working, I have started to tweak my Core/Memory frequencies using the NVidia gfx driver tab.
The default values were displayed as Core 390 (I thought this was supposed to be 400MHz!), Memory 700.
When I used the Auto Detect facility, it suggested Core 419, Memory 761. I have heard that the Auto Detect facility is not very good though.
I am currently running with Core 460, Memory 750. No sign of any trouble whatsoever, testing with AquaMark3.
I have seen reports of people running much higher than this, but I wonded how I would know when I am pushing the card too hard. I don't want to overdo it! I am happy to find out from other people's experience what values I could expect to achieve, and then set mine well within those figures.

i tested 2 of them 2 weeks ago....one for myself and one for my old man. One went to 485/800 and the other 490/790.

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