Arch gets really bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

I know distro devs get KDE a full week or so earlier to begin testing with their distro, etc., and the essentially unchanged RC was here before, but KDE 4.2 stable is in Arch's main repos now - _before_ it's available on the KDE web site! I mean, I knew Arch was bleeding-edge, but come on!
http://www.archlinux.org/news/431/
(And, yes, the 4.2 ChangeLog link is broken, I suspect there will be such a page within 24hrs)
www.kde.org still says KDE 4.2 is to be released tomorrow, and I can't download the 4.2.0 source from the location specified in the KDE 4.2 PKGBUILDs. None of the KDE mirrors have it.
Not that I'm complaining...
Last edited by Ranguvar (2009-01-27 00:18:31)

that seems to be a small problem with upgrade:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
archlinuxfr is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Targets (31): mysql-clients-5.0.75-2 mysql-5.0.75-3 akonadi-1.1.1-1 phonon-4.3.0-2 soprano-2.1.67-1 kdelibs-4.2.0-4 kdeaccessibility-4.2.0-1 kdebase-runtime-4.2.0-2 libical-0.43-1
kdepimlibs-4.2.0-1 kdebase-workspace-4.2.0-2 kdebindings-4.1.3-1 pycups-1.9.42-2 system-config-printer-1.1.1-2 kdeadmin-4.2.0-1 kdeartwork-4.2.0-1 kdebase-4.2.0-1
kdeedu-4.2.0-1 kdegames-4.2.0-1 kdegraphics-4.2.0-1 kdemultimedia-4.2.0-1 libmsn-4.0beta4-1 ortp-0.15.0-1 kdenetwork-4.2.0-2 libmal-0.44-1 kdepim-4.2.0-1
kdeplasma-addons-4.2.0-1 kdesdk-4.2.0-1 kdetoys-4.2.0-1 kdeutils-4.2.0-1 kdewebdev-4.2.0-1
Total Download Size: 0.00 MB
Total Installed Size: 773.78 MB
Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
checking package integrity...
(31/31) checking for file conflicts [######################################################################################################################################] 100%
error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/applet.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/data_engine.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-applet.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-dataengine.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
Last edited by zyghom (2009-01-27 05:22:22)

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Very nice issue, and thanks for it!
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As a hacker at heart, I like to keep up with the latest versions of my favorite software, excrutiatingly configuring every bit to taste.
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What happened was that most of my dotfiles simply didn't work with the versions packaged on these distros, to a point that trying to find the culprit options ended up being too time consuming, so I just gave up and used the dreaded defaults for most things, from bash to tmux, which was rather frustrating.
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After 10+ years I can't be arsed with this bleeding edge business any more. I'm getting to that point in life where one breakage is one too many. I blame the children.
Problem is I've never used any of the major distros other than Ubuntu (I was at college and needed the money) on a laptop so I'm interested in the opinion of the community when the time comes for a bit more "stability".
I'm considering Debian or Fedora. I guess they're solid choices?

dtw wrote:I'm getting to that point in life where one breakage is one too many.
What kind of breakage are you trying to avoid?
You will ALWAYS experience some form of breakage no matter which operating system you use, the reason being perfectly summed up in this 30 second video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7JH1FT_yM
dtw wrote:I'm considering Debian or Fedora. I guess they're solid choices?
For what reasons would you consider using Fedora? The Wikipedia describes Fedora as "focusing on innovation, integrating new technologies" and having "a relatively short life cycle". ..."Having no breakage" is not on the list of features for Fedora.
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The NEXT stable release of Debian is (probably) happening within the next few months. If you were to install and configure Debian today, you would be RE-installing and RE-configuring it in a few months. Is that something you are willing to do every two to three years?
Debian (and Red Hat Enterprise Linux and others, I'm sure) are VERY GOOD operating system, and are used extensively around the world, especially in situations where "no breakage" is a requirement. But they come with a trade off. Make sure you are willing to accept those trade offs before jumping in!
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