"Archive and install" 10.5.8 with 10.5.6 DVD?

Hello,
I just tried to archive and install my 10.5.8 installation from my original 10.5.6 installation DVD. This is the DVD I originally used to install on this computer, I then upgraded via "Software Update" to 10.5.8.
I am having problems with my 10.5.8 installation ad want to archive and install a fresh install of it. Buuuuuuut, the DVD won't let me saying "There is a newer version installed."
WTHeck? am I out of luck and need to buy a new install DVD to archive and install it?
Please help if anyone knows what's up.

Did you follow these directions?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710?viewlocale=en_US
Should be working.
The version of Mac OS X installed by this process is the same version included on your installation CD or DVD. If you have installed Mac OS X updates, they are not automatically re-installed by this process....
Message was edited by: WZZZ

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