Archive and install cannot acess admin

I did and upgrade from 10.3.9 to Tiger 10.4 using the "archive and install" which creates a previous System folder 1. I cannot acsses anything asking for admin and password, if i go to the accounts in the system prefs pane.
It has me listed as "standard user" so i can't even change me to Admin because it wants my admin and password to unlock.
I have already used the install disk to change password, the only change was to my login name and password.
I did an archive and install so that i could if possible use any of the files from the previous system from 10.3.9 in any of the Tiger's system.
I done a lot of searching here, some i knew few i didn't.
Suggestions anyone?
Steve

That is very strange -- the OS is supposed to make sure there is always at least one admin user account. Niel's helpful link should get you going again, but you might want to consider calling AppleCare about this anyway. They should know if something in the installer or migration assistant is buggy enough to let this happen.

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