Archive and Install from external DVDROM?

My Dvd-rom is broken so I bought an external optical drive. Lately, my software (such as Word and Powerpoint), have not been opening correctly. Apple Support suggested that I do an Archive and Install.
Will I be able to do this from an external optical drive?
Thanks,
Danielle

Yes, as long as the external drive is bootable. Insert the installer DVD into the external drive then restart the computer. After the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the icon for the external DVD then click on the downward pointing arrow button. The computer should boot from the DVD. Follow these instructions for the Archive and Install:
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

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Can you do an archive and install from a download update?

I upgraded to Tiger and 10.4.4 came on the disc I bought. I'm running into some problems w/ utilities that I have and would like to do an archive and install from the 10.4.10 download. The only option is an easy install though.

Welcome to the forums!
You cannot Archive & Install from a downloaded update. You need to do an Archive & Install from your 10.4.4 DVD, then download and run the 10.4.10 Combo Updater.

Tiger Archive and Install Using External Disk for Archive?

Any way to do an archive and install by moving the saved stuff to an external usb drive? My 10.4.3 install disk is offering me only erase and install, I was updated to 10.4.8 and quite invested with software, etc., would really like to at least try archive and install, but of course the main drive is too full for that.
As an alternative, is there any way to use single user mode command line to locate and move files before doing the erase and install?
Finally, I gather I cannot boot os 9 with my mini. Is there any workaround for that?
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> One of the unexplained mysteries to me is what users are supposed to do about iTunes libraries?
Create and maintain a backup saved to an external drive or media (used for backup purposes only) as should be done with all other data that is important to you - for this very reason and for other important reasons. It isn't a matter of if but when your hard drive has a partial or complete failure since none last forever.
Since an iPod can be accessed/used via Disk mode as with any other external drive, many use their iPod for backup purposes which is a big mistake IMO since this isn't what an iPod is designed for. There are ways to retrieve music from an iPod but if you have your iPod preferences to automatically launch iTunes and update with iTunes and/or don't have Disk mode enabled, it makes it much more difficult if not impossible.
Do you have access to another Mac that supports being connected to another Mac via Firewire Target Disk mode? If so, you can connect your Mini to another Mac this way to retrieve your data and then you should probably consider reformatting the drive (which completely erases the drive) and then re-install Tiger and all software.

Can I Archive and Install From Leopard Up-To-Date Disc?

I'm a Mac newbie, so I apologize if this is an obvious question.
I purchased my iMac this month, so I received a Leopard Up-To-Date disc for $10. The CD says Upgrade on it, and I can't find any options for what type of install I want to run. I've seen things like Erase And Install, Archive and Install, and Upgrade posted here on the forums, but the only options I have are whether or not to install things like Core Services, X11, etc. Can I not perform an Archive and Install with this disc, and if I can't, is there any chance I could request a full CD from Apple?
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You should be able to -- when you get to the screen that asks you to choose your installation destination, highlight the drive, then you will see in the lower-left an options buttion. CLick it and you will find three choices: upgrade, archive/install and upgrade install. Choose the one you want and enjoy!
Keep in mind that when you put the disk in, the system will verify that the DVD is OK -- it takes a few minutes, but it is worth knowing that the disk is not corrupt before you start. Also, repairing permissions seems to take awhile -- just let it happen.

Installing OS X on external hard drive, and installing from external HD

my ibook's optical drive does not work, and the hard drive in my computer is completely empty. can i use another mac to install OS X on my external hard drive, and then install the OS from the external hard drive back to my ibook?

There are a few fairly good clone utilities available; although I use a
donationware (runs uninhibited direct from download online) by Mike
Bombich named Carbon Copy Cloner, with a good amount of inform-
ation available at the home and download pages for reference; users
have had good use of Super Duper, CloneX, to do backups & clones.
Other utilities, such as the Disk Utility in your system install/boot disc
can be used to move a bootable archive of your system between disks.
Drive Genius (a retail software product) is said to be able to utilize
clones, but I have no experience in that product; although I do own it.
I like Carbon Copy Cloner, and test my clone's ability to run the Mac
before attempting to zero-reformat the machine's internal hard drive, etc.
A simple search of Mac sites (I use google.com/mac) can bring up
discussions specific to these third-party tools. The home page of
Mike Bombich's Carbon Copy Cloner is worth a detailed look into.
OS specific versions are available. http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

Failed Archive and Install. Unable to restart from CD.

I could use some help solving a tricky problem. Please redirect me if I am posting this to the wrong forum.
My MacBook was having difficulty staying asleep. If I select sleep or close the lid, within a few seconds it makes a sound like it is testing the disk drive and wakes up. Oddly doesn't seem to happen as quickly if it just falls asleep from prolonged inactivity. This was causing severe battery drain so, unable to solve the issue on my own, I made an appointment with my local Genius at the Apple Store.
He told me I needed to do an Archive and Install, which he proceeded to try and do, but couldn't get the drive to accept the new OS. He therefore diagnosed me with a dying hard drive and told me I needed a new one. I groaned a bit since they seem to tell me this every 2 years or so, so they kindly offered to do this one for free.
I took the new machine home today and used Time Machine to restore my old settings/software. Unfortunately the problem was still there. However, this got me thinking. I have two backup clone drives with SuperDuper. One is current and regularly. The other I made 2 years ago shortly after we last replaced the hard drive and never touched. (Paranoid, I know.) When I boot from the current clone, the problem recurs but, if I boot from the earlier clone, the problem is no longer there. Clearly, I think, a software issue.
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I held down "C" on start up, but it still started from the HD. I clicked on the "Install" icon from the CD, but the restart again used the HD. I tried to select the CD as a Startup Drive in the System Preferences panel but the CD doesn't show up as an option.
I would be grateful for any ideas. Sorry about the length. Thanks.

It looks like your MacBook is one of these models, and that it shipped with Tiger:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-black -13-specs.html
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white -13-specs.html
The comment there about RAM is
1 GB of RAM is installed as two 512 MB modules, no slots free.
*Apple officially supports 2 GB of RAM, but third-parties have been "unofficially" able to upgrade it to 3 GB or 4 GB of RAM (it can hold 4 GB but cannot fully utilize the memory beyond 3 GB).
You will not want to run Tiger even if you find the original discs, so I would get Snow Leopard in any event. The original install discs do contain a machine-specific version of Apple Hardware Test which is not available elsewhere, and for this reason it is nice to have them around. Apple will usually send you a replacement set for a nominal charge if you call them with your serial number - you can decide if doing this is worth it, depending on the cost.
I do think it is worthwhile upgrading your RAM to 2GB, though your actual need will depend upon how you use your computer. If you don't do much multitasking or manipulation of of large media files you might be able to get by with your current 1 GB. Since your current Leopard system seems to meet your needs with 1GB of RAM, I guess you first could try running Snow Leopard this way also, and then add RAM if you find you need it. If you want to do it now, I think that a matched pair of 1GB modules would cost about $50.

Trackpad no input after archive and install

Please help, i did an Archive and Install from the tiger 10.4 cd trying to resolve a problem with my iphoto wich was not working properlly, when i finished and enter again, the trackpad is not working no respose at all. What can I do?
I just realise that some of the functions of the keyboard are not working either, like the keys for the sound and the brightness
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If you have an external Apple USB keyboard and mouse, you may use these to
see if the iBook has a hardware issue in relation to the symptoms you've noted.
If the computer is booted from the Installer disc and you can run Disk Utility from
the menu bar options (short of running the actual installer) which appear, you
may be able to see if the keyboard and trackpad work when the computer is not
running from the installed system on the hard disk drive.
There may be an issue with the operating system; it could be traced back to the
hard disk drive, and if so, perhaps these new symptoms relate to a failing HDD.
If you have the original system Apple Hardware Test for that computer, you may
be able to start the computer from that disc, and see if there are any tests which
may yield trouble or error code messages.
If the computer is running a newer system than it shipped with the original disc
set which accompanied the computer when new would be needed to get the
Apple Hardware Test to work, there isn't one on a retail OS X install disc. If the
hard disk drive has errors on it that Disk Utility can't fix, it may be repaired by
a more aggressive tool such as Disk Warrior; or Drive Genius2, but these are
tools best owned and understood. Could be this new system folder is another
problem and not an answer to an existing problem, if the drive has bad data.
An external USB keyboard & mouse is helpful in troubleshooting a portable computer.
I try to have at least one spare available, and run my iBook G4 as a desktop with a
external USB white Apple keyboard and optical mouse; and powered USB hub.
Look into troubleshooting this; see if the booted system installer's Disk Utility can
tell you the status of the computer's hard disk drive; the SMART status, and the
amount of free space remaining. Could be the drive is overfull and in a bad way.
(If you need to, you could access the computer's hard disk drive via FireWire
Target Disk Mode to see about saving files you may want off of there, to another
Mac computer. Read up on FireWire Target Disk Mode, searchable in Support.)
Good luck & happy computing!

After Archive and Install, there is less room on disk

I recently had to do an archive and install from my Mac OS X Disc 1 & 2, and I new it would take up between 10 and 15GB of Disk space, but I can't figure out how to clean up the disk so I have the amount of space I had before the archive and install. I recently had 59.8 GB, after the archive and install I have 50.08. Any suggestions?

Hi Tha Shiz, Welcome to Apple's Users Help Users Forums.
When you do an A & I you create a 'Previous System Folder.' I suspect that's the difference.
You can keep that for a while till you are sure that everything is OK.
Joyous Computing, JP
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After archive and install, can you go back to old system?

After some trouble with permissions, I decided to do a clean archive and install from 10.2.8. Too late I realized that the install would be 10.2.
The permission trouble did not go away, and now I have additional trouble with upgrading everything, the combo upgrade to 10.2.8 does not work, error messages etc.
Is there a way I can undo this and use my old system 10.2.8 again which is saved in a folder?
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Hiltraut:
As ali brown has already pointed out your iMac does, indeed, have 2 Firewire ports. Depending on which optical drive you have (the computer shipped with CD-RW, DVD/CD-RW, or SuperDrive) you can install Tiger directly.
Since you have an older version of Jaguar, and since it does not seem to be very co-operative, I suggest that you seriously consider upgrading to Panther or Tiger. To install Panther your computer will need to meet the minimum system requirements for Panther. You will need to purchase the Full Retail version of Panther.
To install Tiger your computer will need to meet the minimum system requirements for Tiger. You will need to purchase the Full Retail version of Tiger.
You can purchase universal installer versions of Panther, guaranteed to install, or Tiger on CDs, from applerescue. Please note that Computer specific or upgrade versions should be avoided since they are optimized for the computer to which they are specific and will therefore, very likely, cause problems during or after installation. On the legal side, it may be a violation of the Software License Agreement which statesThis License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time...
If you decide to go that route please post back for assistance with how to proceed.
Good luck.
cornelius

Indexing goes on for 12 kours + after archive and install Leopard 5.8

Hi
I have because of a problem with Time Machine been suffested to run Archive and install from the installation disk. All has worked out fine, but before using Time Machine the computer need to index the contents on the HD. I only see a progres bar with "estimating time" when clicking on spotlight in the right upper corner. It has been doing this during more than 12 hours.
Any remedy abyone
Thanks in advance

can you launch activity monitor and "kill the offending app? I know that the indexing of spotlight is something quite major, but it should not take that long and cause so much difficulty.
There might be a possibility that spotlight is trying to access the old sparseimage (was it passworded?) and cannot. So could you try mounting that and see if that makes any difference? (NB that is usually a hidden file but you can make it "visible" with onyx).
Hope you'll be lucky.

Trouble with Archive and Install of Tiger 10.4.6

During a Software Update of QuickTime 7.5 I ran into multiple problems:
1. Iphoto would not import from any souce.
2. Safari quit when I used the Bookmark menu.
3. Itunes won't show any graphics.
4. Others I haven't run into yet?
I tried repairing permissions, then I downloaded the Quicktime 7.5 and tried to install, the installation quit.
I tried re-installing Iphoto from my ILife 06 disk, still could not import.
I tried to do an Archive and Install from my Tiger 10.4.6 DVD, the installatiion quit, said retry. I repaired permissions using the Tiger install DVD, the tried to do an Archive and Install again, but it quit during the installation.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot.
The usual reason why updates fail or mess things up, is if Permissions are not fixed before & after every update, with a reboot... you may get a partial update when the installer finds it doesn't have Permissions to change one obscure little part of the OS, leaving you with a mix of OS versions.
Some people get away without Repairing Permissions for years, some for only days.
If Permissions are wrong before applying an update, you could get mixed OS versions, if Directory is the slightest messed up, who knows!
If many Permission are repaired, or any Directory errors are found, you may need to re-apply some the latest/biggest updates.
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Printer issues after archive and install

So I recently took my iMac into the Apple store and they did an archive and install.
Now I can't get either of my printers to work. I have a Samsung ML2010 and an Epson 1400. They both show up in Printers in the system prefs printer pane, with green lights saying they are idle.
When I go to print with the Samsung, it even goes to far as to sound like its starting up, it says printing when I click on the printer in the dock, then quickly switches to stopped.
From there when I press resume, it pops up an error message saying "Operation Could Not Be Completed. client-error-not-possible"
If I'm not mistaken pretty much the same thing happens when I try to print from the Epson as well.
What's wrong and how can I fix it?
I've tried deleting the printers from the printer prefs page and reinstalling the drivers to no avail.

Did you make a backup before your archive and install?
If not, you may be forced to clone everything at least twice*:
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
Erase and install.
Test the drivers on a simply erase and installed system updated to the operating system it was at before (down to the free download)*:
http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html
And restore just the data that is known to work with that operating system from your backup. The other consideration you'll see in my FAQ is if you migrated from PowerPC to Intel, you might have mixed drivers that don't work well together.
are all Intel iMacs, and are not G5s.
are sometimes G5, sometimes Intel. If the Mac can boot, go to Apple menu -> About This Mac to tell the difference. If it won't boot, put the machine on its back, and read the under side of the foot of the stand. The EMC# on the foot of the stand will tell you the difference. EMC#s of 2104, 2105, 2110, 2114, 2118, 2111, 2133, 2134 are Intel. All others are G5.
An archive and install may fail if the system you are archive and installing from is older than what is already installed.
- * Links to my page give me compensation.

Archive and Install back to Tiger

Hello all!
After about a month of frustration, I think I am ready to take my PowerBook back to Tiger. I see that I can do an Archive and Install from my Tiger Retail. The only problem I see is that the "Preserve Users" setting is grayed out.
So, if I go through this Archive and Install, will I still have access to my old apps (iLife '08, and some third party stuff like Finale), photos, documents, and music?
Thanks for all of your help!
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I am happy (albeit slightly puzzled) to report that I have been running KERNEL PANIC FREE for most of yesterday and today. Here is why I am puzzled: I booted up yesterday and the system seemed to hang. I noticed that the keyboard worked, but not the trackpad. I went and got an old Apple USB mouse. When I plugged it in, it responded. I was able to work all of yesterday afternoon and this morning without incident.
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Mon Sep 1 07:30:31 2008
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000578 PC=0x000000000055A6A0
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
PC=0x0055A6A0; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000578; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00D2F7C0; R1=0x2A2C3BA0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00D74924 0x00D2F7C0 0x00D40E54 0x00D424D8 0x00D429B8 0x00D9F4AC
0x00D35CE4 0x0035A994 0x0003F94C 0x000B05D4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx(314.46.9)@0xd2e000->0xe5afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(211.1)@0xd0a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.0)@0xc8e000
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000->0x565fff
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x34f51500)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
9E17
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun 9 19:36:17 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerBook6,2
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0009B498 0x0009BE3C 0x00029DD8 0x000AF210 0x000B2A78
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
PC=0x0055A6A0; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000578; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00D2F7C0; R1=0x2A2C3BA0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00D74924 0x00D2F7C0 0x00D40E54 0x00D424D8 0x00D429B8 0x00D9F4AC
0x00D35CE4 0x0035A994 0x0003F94C 0x000B05D4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx(314.46.9)@0xd2e000->0xe5afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(211.1)@0xd0a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.0)@0xc8e000
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000->0x565fff
Exception state (sv=0x34f51500) P
Not sure why it is working, but I am not complaining either.
Thanks again for your help and insight!
Josh

Archive and Install and the wireless service Rolling ball

I did an archive and install from a Leopard disk, after running repair permissions and disk warrior. All seemed to be ok until the select wireless screen appeared, the proper network identified and the beach ball continues to roll and roll and roll. It's still rolling.
I need some advice and help.
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Hi douvidi;
You are going to have to provide much more information before we can help you.
Such as more details on your hardware; how much RAM, how large is your disk, how much free space do you have on your disk? Also what have you done to your Mac besides the Archive & Install?
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