Archive and Install misses-Some-applications ( ? )

Amidst two efforts of Archiving and reinstalling I have been amazed at two consistencies . One is that the routinely running iTunes , i.e. working like a Swiss Clock , disappears and the Address Book remains among the missing .
The missing Address Book is the reason for the flurry of Archiving and Installing , so I am inclined to accept that as less surprising that it remains unusable . However , thanks to a stand alone down load , I can recover my iTunes application from Apple Computer .
This somehow strikes me as odd that an other wise happy Operating System will Ostracise first an Address Book then Strike another application after being "Restored" .
What gremlins pursue in my Address Book remains a secret , but by piling Mount Ossa on top of Olympus , then Mount Pelion on top of Ossa , so to speak , What can the meaning of my Archive and install twice removing iTunes be ?
Having purchased Pacifist I had entertained high hopes that this parsing of the install Disc would provide a substantive fix in replacing the "Missing" applications . I say "Missing" because they are right there according to my lying eyes and Get Info .
All ideas entertained until the cows come home , Frederick

In the interest of saving space, can I trash the app folder from my previous system?
Yes.
What else can I safely trash from the previous system without compromising my data?
Anything which was reinstalled. That folder is left there partially so that any files you may have added to the previous system can be restored.
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    Hi johnink, Welcome to Apple Discussions.
    4. Running Norton Utilities, doesn't work.
    This is probably the source of your problem. First of all get rid of Norton, use it for a coaster or a frisbee but not on your Mac! Do not let Norton near your X system, it will hose it!
    Norton Disk Doctor is not compatible with OS X 10.4 Tiger. Symantec ceased development of Norton Utilities for Macintosh and Norton SystemWorks for Macintosh 2 years ago. But it has been ruining systems since the intro of X.
    You should create a complete backup of your files and erase & re-install the OS.
    -mj
    [email protected]
    iMac G4 17 FP 800 MHz 768MB   Mac OS X (10.4.6)   2 X LaCie d2's APC-UPS / iMac 333MHz 256MB 10.3.9

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